This kind of kid behavior and parenting are becoming more common, but I see plenty of well behaved kids in the Midwest and west coast. Basically, small to mid sized towns.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher and honestly of course the kids are frantic it’s the day before break and they’re hyped up on nonstop Christmas activities. This isn’t a fair time to assess them lol

It's year round. Most who have worked with kids for an extended period of time will tell you kids are different these days - because parents are different. They are afraid to be in charge, set a firm boundary, or apply consequences. How many posts here have some variation of the title: "My 3 Year Old Refuses to Get Dressed, What to do?" S/He's THREE, and does not get to refuse to do anything. Yet there are parents out here routinely late for work because they're begging Larla/O to put shoes on or turn off then iPad.

I am a teacher and I've seen a huge shift. My books that used to last for years in great shape now last just months. Kids fold the pages, draw in the books, just treat them with complete disregard for someone else's property. Same with the things in the "calm down corner" I'm required to keep. Kids have learned they just need to pretend they're upset about something in order to use something from the calm down corner (coloring pages, play dough, fidget toys etc), but they don't use them responsibly. Half the stuff is missing and the stuff that is left is in gross condition and it's only 4 months into the school year. I'm not allowed to discourage students from using the calm down corner. I have told my students if they choose to ruin the things I purchase out of my own pocket, I'm not replacing them. That goes for books and for other stuff like the calm down corner. They can treat the stuff they own any way their parents allow them to, but I will not keep spending my own money so that they can destroy the stuff I purchase.

That's just the tip of the iceberg in terms of student behavior and the parents that have raised them to believe that their behavior is acceptable. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

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Anonymous wrote:Totally agree. It's like being held hostage -- parents won't say anything and YOU'RE not allowed to say anything to THEIR precious kids, either.

True, but one of the advantages of being/appearing very old is that you can stop giving a damn and start scaring the bratty kids! What are they gonna do really?

+1 I met someone recently at a planning meeting at my home who had needed to bring her 3 1/2 year old. It was informal, he entertained himself with some activities she brought, it was fine ... until it was time to leave. Kid didn't want to go, mom is negotiating. Kid starts throwing things, mom is telling him that's not how we handle toys. Kid head butts me hard in the legs, mom tells him that's not nice. Kid get evil look, whirls around, grabs a completed lego off my shelf, and throws it to the ground. Mom is still negotiating from 6 feet away. Just as he winds up to do a full sweep of the shelf into my face, I grabbed his hands. Mom finally comes to get him saying how hard it is to control kids, excuse, excuse. I'm just thinking - no it's not, just pick him the f0ck up! You are three times his size and handle horses. Good grief!

Saw him again in a couple different settings after this, and he would randomly walk up to adults and hit them or punch them. She seemed to think this was normal. Yikes.

I agree with you, OP! And yeah, it's the era of entitlement, and that's definitely spilling over into the way people (don't) control their pets, (don't) raise their kids, etc.

- mom of two young boys and a young girl

Op x 100000

Lazy, worthless parents.

Anonymous wrote:What outcome are you hoping from with this post?

+1

You are personally the best parent alive and every other parent of little children is awful. Does that help?

Don’t blame just this generation, PP.

At Thanksgiving, the cousins were all riled up. Our youngest kept running around yelling some punch line from a movie he likes, and at first the elder family members were obliging him, but when he wouldn’t STFU after a couple times of asking, my DH quietly walked him to another room to sit quietly until he could collect himself and rejoin the group. My 60yo MIL started crying because we were “stifling his fun”.

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Anonymous wrote:My kids are all young adults now. I agree with you 100%, OP. The lack of parenting I see is scary. I just don’t understand when this happened.

I agree with OP and this person. I left teaching for this reason. My kids are early 20s. It was different even that recently. Your kids need boundaries. Provide them.

NP. Honestly, I think kids now are different than they were, just years ago. Yes, they are badly behaved now but it can't all be bad parenting. I think it's something in the water, or the air? All these forever chemicals or a combination of factors?

A lot of moms drank during pregnancy if you believe the dcum expectant moms forum.

And dads are working 24/7. And moms are stressed out and drinking wine or vodka in Tervis cups at little kid soccer. And everyone is too tired to parent their kids.

It’s only been in the last 50 years or so that abstinence from alcohol during pregnancy was recommended. Before that, women drank and smoked like chimneys during pregnancy. Now we all know better so most of us do better. You can’t try to equate an occasional glass of wine that many women have during pregnancy to the free for all it was not even a century ago, especially if you’re using drinking to bolster your argument that drinking while pregnant makes your children behave poorly.

It’s called

The pre-Holiday overscheduled little kid.

Parents need to go to fewer events and enforce bedtimes. The majority of these kids are well-behaved when they’re rested.

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Anonymous wrote:My kids are all young adults now. I agree with you 100%, OP. The lack of parenting I see is scary. I just don’t understand when this happened.

I agree with OP and this person. I left teaching for this reason. My kids are early 20s. It was different even that recently. Your kids need boundaries. Provide them.

NP. Honestly, I think kids now are different than they were, just years ago. Yes, they are badly behaved now but it can't all be bad parenting. I think it's something in the water, or the air? All these forever chemicals or a combination of factors?

A lot of moms drank during pregnancy if you believe the dcum expectant moms forum.

And dads are working 24/7. And moms are stressed out and drinking wine or vodka in Tervis cups at little kid soccer. And everyone is too tired to parent their kids.

I had to laugh last spring when my HS student walked up to the street after sports practice to meet me at her younger sister's after school event on the playground.

She was aghast that kids were climbing up and hanging off the basketball rims, flipping the swings over the top of the swingset, and a boatload of other bad behaviors with parents and (Millennial) teachers in attendance. "If I had done that and any teacher saw it, I would have been sitting against the wall for the entire time. Even at a 6 p.m. event! These kids are animals! Where are their parents!?"

Yup.

Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher and honestly of course the kids are frantic it’s the day before break and they’re hyped up on nonstop Christmas activities. This isn’t a fair time to assess them lol

It's year round. Most who have worked with kids for an extended period of time will tell you kids are different these days - because parents are different. They are afraid to be in charge, set a firm boundary, or apply consequences. How many posts here have some variation of the title: "My 3 Year Old Refuses to Get Dressed, What to do?" S/He's THREE, and does not get to refuse to do anything. Yet there are parents out here routinely late for work because they're begging Larla/O to put shoes on or turn off then iPad.

I’m a teacher and honestly of course the kids are frantic it’s the day before break and they’re hyped up on nonstop Christmas activities. This isn’t a fair time to assess them lol

Anonymous wrote:Totally agree. It's like being held hostage -- parents won't say anything and YOU'RE not allowed to say anything to THEIR precious kids, either.

True, but one of the advantages of being/appearing very old is that you can stop giving a damn and start scaring the bratty kids! What are they gonna do really?

Totally agree. It's like being held hostage -- parents won't say anything and YOU'RE not allowed to say anything to THEIR precious kids, either.