The GOP spin is ro laughable. As if they were ever going to do anything to help the unwealthy.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ll also add that “working class” is not synonymous with “white working class.” White, college educated, establishment liberals treat working class blacks and Latinos with paternalistic disdain and could care less about their concerns. You can see this tension play out in their apathy about gentrification and who it displaces. Note the passion with which elite, white liberals talk about climate change and LBGTQ rights versus issues like gentrification and prison reform, for example. It’s glaring.

Nope. That is how you and the right want to cast it, to divide the country, but it isn't the truth.

And it's laughable to suggest that white, college educated, establishment conservatives care about working class blacks and Latinos. I mean, come on. Where's the evidence for that?

No one said that. The establishment on both sides doesn’t care about the working class of all races. That’s why Democrat and Republican establishment hacks will be in a frenzy if Bernie gets the nomination. All this “Trump is a fascist” talk will get muffled quick because at the end of the day Sanders is more dangerous to them because he’s attacking their bottom lines.

Anonymous wrote:How are those trade wars working out?

Bill Clinton’s Treasury Secretary, Lawrence Summers, admits that he never visited Rust Belt cities devastated by NAFTA. Displaced White workers “weren’t heavily on our radar screen,” he said, noting that the Democratic Party base is a “coalition of cosmopolitan elite and diversity.”

Summers’ “cosmopolitan elite” are highly educated, affluent people who travel the world, live in ethnically diverse cities, and are in constant global communication. For them, the benefits of globalization are myriad, and the downsides invisible. But for those whose idea of the good life is more slow-paced and parochial, global economic and communication networks are a threat to their livelihoods, their way of life, and their communities, which have been ravaged by foreclosures, offshoring, and automation.

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Anonymous wrote:Working class Americans are pro-Trump because Steve Bannon researched what they wanted to hear and taught Trump to say it. No other reason.

Trump has nothing in common with working class Americans. Why a man who was born rich and has never suffered the consequences of his financial mistakes should be their spokesperson is absurd.

This too shall pass.

This.

The GOP researches and then says whatever will win an election. Voters are so stupid that it doesn't matter that it's all lies or at the very least hyperbole designed to work them up/tug the heartstrings/scare them and it doesn't matter that the GOP never delivers anything to the lower or middle class voters. Instead, the GOP lie and keep pushing their policies to enrich the already rich, destroy the environment for a buck, reduce regulations to protect consumers again in the name of making as much money in the short term as possible, and on and on. Their policies benefit only themselves and their rich friends, but the stupid voters keep playing along and believing the lies.

The democratic party needs to match the GOP propaganda machine. Sad but true.

OR

a democratic candidate may start pushing issues that support MIddle CLass!!!

- support unions - work against right to work states
- limit immigration both illegal and legal - to keep the wages rising, this is so common sense and so easy to do
- confront wall street and mbas that have screwed the middle class - tax the rich, tax capital gains, close carried interest' loophole
- confront the silicon valley monopolies, break them up or convert to public utilities.

Anonymous wrote:Working class Americans are pro-Trump because Steve Bannon researched what they wanted to hear and taught Trump to say it. No other reason.

Trump has nothing in common with working class Americans. Why a man who was born rich and has never suffered the consequences of his financial mistakes should be their spokesperson is absurd.

This too shall pass.

+1.

And the decline in manufacturing jobs in the US was not solely due to NAFTA. Automation, plus China’s entrance into the WTO, played a huge part.

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Anonymous wrote:We don’t need the white working class.

Do you do your own plumbing and home repairs?

My plumber makes close to $150 an hour. He isn’t working class.

Anonymous wrote:Are you aware that black and latino people work too, and constitute a big chunk of the "working class" in this country? why mix race and class?

Racist white people are the most important major voting bloc regressives have.

They desperately need to make everything about race. Specifically, they need to create a narrative of the scary brown people who might have the gall to do better than you in life and the scary Democrats who have the gall to help people with a different skin color than you to prevent their racist white voting bloc from realizing that conservatives have never given a damn about them and all they do is enact policies that screw the working class in favor of the rich.

If the regressives can keep racists afraid instead of informed, they keep their bread and butter.

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Anonymous wrote:We don’t need the white working class.

Do you do your own plumbing and home repairs?

do you ... think only white people are plumbers and roofers? In the DC area, tradesmen & service people are around 75% non-white, in my experience.

Are you aware that black and latino people work too, and constitute a big chunk of the "working class" in this country? why mix race and class?

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Anonymous wrote:We don’t need the white working class.

Do you do your own plumbing and home repairs?

My hardworking, legal Hispanic neighbors do that for
Me.

Anonymous wrote:We don’t need the white working class.

Do you do your own plumbing and home repairs?

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly they just buy into the FoxNews propaganda that socialized medicine is bad and everything else the Dems try to enact. It’s on them. If they buy the lies that the party of the wealthy old white guys (one of who has a gold toilet!), not sure what more Dems can do. The tax cut didn’t help them.

Doesn't a staunch Democrat PR firm, who also has government contracts that were investigated, have the contract with multiple organizations to save the ACA? The same PR firm was advertising internships at the DNC but not at the RNC. Weird. I thought government contracting firms needed to pretend to be nonpartisan?

It is so strange that any Republican has the nerve to point out any wrongdoing by Dems but turns a blind eye to Trump and his full scale corruption. I am also not aware of firms being bipartisan. If I owned a company that lobbied, I would support both parties because I want to make money regardless of political popularity.

Interesting take on things.

Remind me again, which conservatives are proposing working class-friendly programs like Medicare for All, government subsidized college, free job retraining for workers in dying industries, creating millions of jobs in the trades by investing in renewable energy, universal basic income, progressive taxation where the rich pay their fair share, fighting pollution that causes severe health problems disproportionately in working class communities, and bringing the minimum wage up to a livable level?

Also remind me which liberals are for cutting social security, cutting medicaid, and starving 700,000 families a week before Christmas by cutting off their food assistance?

Because if I didn't know any better, I'd say the overwhelming evidence points to the pact the conservatives actively despise and do everything they can to screw the working class no matter what race they are.

Anonymous wrote:Working class Americans are pro-Trump because Steve Bannon researched what they wanted to hear and taught Trump to say it. No other reason.

Trump has nothing in common with working class Americans. Why a man who was born rich and has never suffered the consequences of his financial mistakes should be their spokesperson is absurd.

This too shall pass.

This.

The GOP researches and then says whatever will win an election. Voters are so stupid that it doesn't matter that it's all lies or at the very least hyperbole designed to work them up/tug the heartstrings/scare them and it doesn't matter that the GOP never delivers anything to the lower or middle class voters. Instead, the GOP lie and keep pushing their policies to enrich the already rich, destroy the environment for a buck, reduce regulations to protect consumers again in the name of making as much money in the short term as possible, and on and on. Their policies benefit only themselves and their rich friends, but the stupid voters keep playing along and believing the lies.

The democratic party needs to match the GOP propaganda machine. Sad but true.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly they just buy into the FoxNews propaganda that socialized medicine is bad and everything else the Dems try to enact. It’s on them. If they buy the lies that the party of the wealthy old white guys (one of who has a gold toilet!), not sure what more Dems can do. The tax cut didn’t help them.

Doesn't a staunch Democrat PR firm, who also has government contracts that were investigated, have the contract with multiple organizations to save the ACA? The same PR firm was advertising internships at the DNC but not at the RNC. Weird. I thought government contracting firms needed to pretend to be nonpartisan?

Link?