Anonymous
11/25/2019 19:04
Subject: Bethesda Cup
Yes you can’t control weather, but you can anticipate what might happen on grass fields in late November. Rent better fields, look for turf, lights so the daylight isn’t an excuse. Rent heaters for the fields maybe if frost continues to be an issue, as it was last year. As for the reduced halves and ridiculous amount of brackets with a very little amount of teams in each bracket, that is 100% controllable. This tournament used to have a good reputation but the past couple years it has been an absolute mess. Maybe stop trying to do so much to expand it and instead focus on making it a quality product. We’re talking about one of the more expensive local tournaments here, after all.
Anonymous
11/25/2019 18:13
Subject: Bethesda Cup
Some people just find any reasons to hate a local club or tournament. Having established local tournaments and facilities is great. We all hate to have to drive hours to a tournament when there are great teams in the area and also make non-local teams come here for a change.
If you don’t want your DC to play for BSC, then make him stay home. Or let him play but you stay home. Not that hard.
If you don’t want your DC to play for BSC, then make him stay home. Or let him play but you stay home. Not that hard.
Anonymous
11/25/2019 18:07
Subject: Bethesda Cup
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So many brackets
Money grab.
Wow. Genius on display. Yes. It is called capitalism for those of you new to the 20th or 21st centuries. Let me know about anything professional that does not involve exchanges for value. If you want rec, go do it. The rest of us adults know what we are getting into. I am sorry you did not or do not think others do.
LOL.
" involve exchanges for value." Except there was no value given.
You must enjoy paying premium for crap sandwiches.
Though, go have fun propagating capitalism.
You want your money back? I want my time back. Clearly no value for me in this exchange.
Yet you continue to engage.
Bye bye.
If you want value, then none of the DMV area soccer clubs, teams, coaches, training sessions, and/or tournaments will bring you value based upon all the threads in the soccer forum.
Anonymous
11/25/2019 17:05
Subject: Bethesda Cup
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So many brackets
Money grab.
Wow. Genius on display. Yes. It is called capitalism for those of you new to the 20th or 21st centuries. Let me know about anything professional that does not involve exchanges for value. If you want rec, go do it. The rest of us adults know what we are getting into. I am sorry you did not or do not think others do.
LOL.
" involve exchanges for value." Except there was no value given.
You must enjoy paying premium for crap sandwiches.
Though, go have fun propagating capitalism.
You want your money back? I want my time back. Clearly no value for me in this exchange.
Yet you continue to engage.
Bye bye.
Anonymous
11/25/2019 16:18
Subject: Bethesda Cup
Anonymous wrote:It's expensive, requires teams to volunteer for marshalling, bad refs, shortened games......Pure money grab.
Make an appeal to your soccer club that they do not sign up next year...i am sure you will be able to retain your best players by not attending this "expensive" tournament that provides opportunities for all players over 14 to showcase their talents to countless college recruits.
Anonymous
11/25/2019 16:00
Subject: Bethesda Cup
It's expensive, requires teams to volunteer for marshalling, bad refs, shortened games......Pure money grab.
Anonymous
11/25/2019 15:54
Subject: Re:Bethesda Cup
well said.
Anonymous
11/25/2019 15:50
Subject: Re:Bethesda Cup
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Bethesda Premier Cup has been going on for over 35 years and has always been played in early November. Yes, last year the tournament had major issues with the cancellations primarily due to inclement weather but also because they were trying to do too much in two weekends (too many teams and age groups to re-schedule to fields that were not closed due to the snow)
This year they expanded the tournament to three weekends to help spread teams out over better quality fields and lesson the risk of running out of fields due to bad weather. They had Nov 9th weekend (u9-u13 Boys and Girls), Nov 16th weekend (older girls showcase), and this past week, Nov 23rd (older boys showcase). They also offered insurance to all guest teams in case of weather cancellations.
Yes, there is still room for improvement, but for the most part, the first two weekends went smoothly and largely issue free. There were even comments on this forum on how much better the first weekend went and the usage of Morven Parks (instead of Muldoons) was well received. For the first weekend, they did have to reduce games by 5 minutes per half during the first day due to frost, but the Finals on the second day were full games.
Reducing games by 10 minutes a half seems a bit much but most likely had to be done to fit in all the games before sunset. Most likely the Finals held on Sundays were all full games.
It is never a perfect tournament and is largely run by volunteers but without the volunteers it couldn't be run at all. Most of the dues go to the field fees, referees, and medical staff needed for each group of fields...along with trophies for division winners and runner-ups.
For the most part the Bethesda tournament is meant to be a showcase tournament for college recruits to view high school age boys and girls. The tournament remains very popular with college recruiters hence it will continue to draw a lot of teams all over the northeast..with some teams coming from other regions as well.
Due to its popularity roughly only 3/4s of the teams who apply get accepted for age groups over 12, so the tournament does self relegate its overall size and it isn't necessarily and all out money grab as some here may imply.
Very well said and I completely agree on all points. Our team played the first weekend and it couldn’t have been better. Field closures and delays is dot rates by Soccerplex to protect the fields. No one has control over the weather and Mother Nature.
Sorry. Auto-correct. “Dictated” not “dot rates”.
Anonymous
11/25/2019 15:48
Subject: Re:Bethesda Cup
Anonymous wrote:Bethesda Premier Cup has been going on for over 35 years and has always been played in early November. Yes, last year the tournament had major issues with the cancellations primarily due to inclement weather but also because they were trying to do too much in two weekends (too many teams and age groups to re-schedule to fields that were not closed due to the snow)
This year they expanded the tournament to three weekends to help spread teams out over better quality fields and lesson the risk of running out of fields due to bad weather. They had Nov 9th weekend (u9-u13 Boys and Girls), Nov 16th weekend (older girls showcase), and this past week, Nov 23rd (older boys showcase). They also offered insurance to all guest teams in case of weather cancellations.
Yes, there is still room for improvement, but for the most part, the first two weekends went smoothly and largely issue free. There were even comments on this forum on how much better the first weekend went and the usage of Morven Parks (instead of Muldoons) was well received. For the first weekend, they did have to reduce games by 5 minutes per half during the first day due to frost, but the Finals on the second day were full games.
Reducing games by 10 minutes a half seems a bit much but most likely had to be done to fit in all the games before sunset. Most likely the Finals held on Sundays were all full games.
It is never a perfect tournament and is largely run by volunteers but without the volunteers it couldn't be run at all. Most of the dues go to the field fees, referees, and medical staff needed for each group of fields...along with trophies for division winners and runner-ups.
For the most part the Bethesda tournament is meant to be a showcase tournament for college recruits to view high school age boys and girls. The tournament remains very popular with college recruiters hence it will continue to draw a lot of teams all over the northeast..with some teams coming from other regions as well.
Due to its popularity roughly only 3/4s of the teams who apply get accepted for age groups over 12, so the tournament does self relegate its overall size and it isn't necessarily and all out money grab as some here may imply.
Very well said and I completely agree on all points. Our team played the first weekend and it couldn’t have been better. Field closures and delays is dot rates by Soccerplex to protect the fields. No one has control over the weather and Mother Nature.
Anonymous
11/25/2019 15:42
Subject: Bethesda Cup
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So many brackets
Money grab.
Wow. Genius on display. Yes. It is called capitalism for those of you new to the 20th or 21st centuries. Let me know about anything professional that does not involve exchanges for value. If you want rec, go do it. The rest of us adults know what we are getting into. I am sorry you did not or do not think others do.
LOL.
" involve exchanges for value." Except there was no value given.
You must enjoy paying premium for crap sandwiches.
Though, go have fun propagating capitalism.
You want your money back? I want my time back. Clearly no value for me in this exchange.
Anonymous
11/25/2019 15:34
Subject: Re:Bethesda Cup
Bethesda Premier Cup has been going on for over 35 years and has always been played in early November. Yes, last year the tournament had major issues with the cancellations primarily due to inclement weather but also because they were trying to do too much in two weekends (too many teams and age groups to re-schedule to fields that were not closed due to the snow)
This year they expanded the tournament to three weekends to help spread teams out over better quality fields and lesson the risk of running out of fields due to bad weather. They had Nov 9th weekend (u9-u13 Boys and Girls), Nov 16th weekend (older girls showcase), and this past week, Nov 23rd (older boys showcase). They also offered insurance to all guest teams in case of weather cancellations.
Yes, there is still room for improvement, but for the most part, the first two weekends went smoothly and largely issue free. There were even comments on this forum on how much better the first weekend went and the usage of Morven Parks (instead of Muldoons) was well received. For the first weekend, they did have to reduce games by 5 minutes per half during the first day due to frost, but the Finals on the second day were full games.
Reducing games by 10 minutes a half seems a bit much but most likely had to be done to fit in all the games before sunset. Most likely the Finals held on Sundays were all full games.
It is never a perfect tournament and is largely run by volunteers but without the volunteers it couldn't be run at all. Most of the dues go to the field fees, referees, and medical staff needed for each group of fields...along with trophies for division winners and runner-ups.
For the most part the Bethesda tournament is meant to be a showcase tournament for college recruits to view high school age boys and girls. The tournament remains very popular with college recruiters hence it will continue to draw a lot of teams all over the northeast..with some teams coming from other regions as well.
Due to its popularity roughly only 3/4s of the teams who apply get accepted for age groups over 12, so the tournament does self relegate its overall size and it isn't necessarily and all out money grab as some here may imply.
This year they expanded the tournament to three weekends to help spread teams out over better quality fields and lesson the risk of running out of fields due to bad weather. They had Nov 9th weekend (u9-u13 Boys and Girls), Nov 16th weekend (older girls showcase), and this past week, Nov 23rd (older boys showcase). They also offered insurance to all guest teams in case of weather cancellations.
Yes, there is still room for improvement, but for the most part, the first two weekends went smoothly and largely issue free. There were even comments on this forum on how much better the first weekend went and the usage of Morven Parks (instead of Muldoons) was well received. For the first weekend, they did have to reduce games by 5 minutes per half during the first day due to frost, but the Finals on the second day were full games.
Reducing games by 10 minutes a half seems a bit much but most likely had to be done to fit in all the games before sunset. Most likely the Finals held on Sundays were all full games.
It is never a perfect tournament and is largely run by volunteers but without the volunteers it couldn't be run at all. Most of the dues go to the field fees, referees, and medical staff needed for each group of fields...along with trophies for division winners and runner-ups.
For the most part the Bethesda tournament is meant to be a showcase tournament for college recruits to view high school age boys and girls. The tournament remains very popular with college recruiters hence it will continue to draw a lot of teams all over the northeast..with some teams coming from other regions as well.
Due to its popularity roughly only 3/4s of the teams who apply get accepted for age groups over 12, so the tournament does self relegate its overall size and it isn't necessarily and all out money grab as some here may imply.
Anonymous
11/25/2019 13:53
Subject: Bethesda Cup
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So many brackets
Money grab.
Wow. Genius on display. Yes. It is called capitalism for those of you new to the 20th or 21st centuries. Let me know about anything professional that does not involve exchanges for value. If you want rec, go do it. The rest of us adults know what we are getting into. I am sorry you did not or do not think others do.
LOL.
" involve exchanges for value." Except there was no value given.
You must enjoy paying premium for crap sandwiches.
Though, go have fun propagating capitalism.
Anonymous
11/25/2019 13:26
Subject: Bethesda Cup
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So many brackets
Money grab.
Wow. Genius on display. Yes. It is called capitalism for those of you new to the 20th or 21st centuries. Let me know about anything professional that does not involve exchanges for value. If you want rec, go do it. The rest of us adults know what we are getting into. I am sorry you did not or do not think others do.
LOL.
Anonymous
11/25/2019 13:01
Subject: Bethesda Cup
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So many brackets
Money grab.
Wow. Genius on display. Yes. It is called capitalism for those of you new to the 20th or 21st centuries. Let me know about anything professional that does not involve exchanges for value. If you want rec, go do it. The rest of us adults know what we are getting into. I am sorry you did not or do not think others do.
Anonymous
11/25/2019 12:04
Subject: Bethesda Cup
Anonymous wrote:So many brackets
Money grab.