Anonymous
Post 11/19/2019 06:43     Subject: What does it mean when someone scores a 160 on the Naglieri?
Anonymous[b wrote:]I would consider a career counselor who gives a broad battery of ability tests. I used Pathfinders in Alexandria when I wanted to switch careers[/b]. The advice was great, though I wish I had had it earlier. One of the most helpful parts was seeing that I wasn’t good at everything. I also got the max score on a spatial task, but bombed an editing measure. It helped me clarify my direction. I wouldn’t be surprised if the tests measured the same things as the WISC, but having practical next steps appealed to me.




This is a really good idea, probably good for all highschoolers to do before heading off to college. How much did it cost?
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2019 23:18     Subject: What does it mean when someone scores a 160 on the Naglieri?
Anonymous wrote:My 9th grade daughter took the Naglieri in school this year, we just received her scores and she received a 160 which is the highest score one can get. This is NOT meant to be a humble brag or boastful post, but I have to say I am floored. I've always known she is very smart, but I don't see her as being a genius. Yet, a 160 does seem rather extraordinary to me. What exactly does it say about a person who receives a score like this? I'm wondering if I should be doing something to develop her abilities in STEM topics. Her extracurriculars are all arts related, she has never done anything like programming, robotics, etc. I guess I'm wondering where do we go from here? Or is there any reason to go anywhere at all?


It means she's a very, very smart kid. Like others have said, get a proper IQ test to baseline her level of intelligence. Foster her interests and make sure she's challenged.push her limits. Don't focus on Stem vs other. If she's not interested in STEM, it would be time and energy wasted. However, it would be good to expose her to STEM topics (Robotics or coding clubs) to see if she has any interest..
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2019 22:31     Subject: What does it mean when someone scores a 160 on the Naglieri?
I would consider a career counselor who gives a broad battery of ability tests. I used Pathfinders in Alexandria when I wanted to switch careers. The advice was great, though I wish I had had it earlier. One of the most helpful parts was seeing that I wasn’t good at everything. I also got the max score on a spatial task, but bombed an editing measure. It helped me clarify my direction. I wouldn’t be surprised if the tests measured the same things as the WISC, but having practical next steps appealed to me.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2019 20:14     Subject: What does it mean when someone scores a 160 on the Naglieri?
A 160 Naglieri doesn’t suggest a 160 IQ or even a 140 IQ. The Naglieri is a brief, multiple choice screener that tests nonverbal skills. It also has a reputation for disproportionately many high scores. Your kid is smart, but stop being ridiculous. If you’re getting that wrapped up in scores, then get a real IQ test.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2019 19:59     Subject: Re:What does it mean when someone scores a 160 on the Naglieri?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have no idea why you are surprised a kid who formerly got two 99% now gets a perfect score. Where is the news other than what may be a slight surprise on your part?




Well it was years ago, so I really haven't given much thought to her scores in quite a while. And even though she scored 99 percentile, she could have still scored quite a few points below the max. Seeing her get the max score was really quite a bit more than a slight surprise, I was actually rather astounded by it


I have no idea why this would astound you. My kid scored very high on the cogat and Wisc. You had no idea with 2- 99% scores, admission into the gifted program, and presumably years of success in that program and you are astounded that the kid got a perfect score on an abilities test?




Yeah. To me a 160 seems like it's Einsteinian level smart, and while it's pretty obvious to me that DD is very smart, she spends most of her free time texting friends, making tik toks, and watching James Charles makeup tutorials. She doesn't seem to be on the path for curing cancer.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2019 19:50     Subject: Re:What does it mean when someone scores a 160 on the Naglieri?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have no idea why you are surprised a kid who formerly got two 99% now gets a perfect score. Where is the news other than what may be a slight surprise on your part?




Well it was years ago, so I really haven't given much thought to her scores in quite a while. And even though she scored 99 percentile, she could have still scored quite a few points below the max. Seeing her get the max score was really quite a bit more than a slight surprise, I was actually rather astounded by it


I have no idea why this would astound you. My kid scored very high on the cogat and Wisc. You had no idea with 2- 99% scores, admission into the gifted program, and presumably years of success in that program and you are astounded that the kid got a perfect score on an abilities test?
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2019 19:50     Subject: What does it mean when someone scores a 160 on the Naglieri?
Well my husband has a perfect SAT and can be dumb about some stuff, so who knows.

In all seriousness though, I'd proud. Make sure she knows that it doesn't define her - for kids who seem "normal" stuff like this can make them not try.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2019 19:42     Subject: Re:What does it mean when someone scores a 160 on the Naglieri?
Anonymous wrote:I have no idea why you are surprised a kid who formerly got two 99% now gets a perfect score. Where is the news other than what may be a slight surprise on your part?




Well it was years ago, so I really haven't given much thought to her scores in quite a while. And even though she scored 99 percentile, she could have still scored quite a few points below the max. Seeing her get the max score was really quite a bit more than a slight surprise, I was actually rather astounded by it
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2019 18:06     Subject: Re:What does it mean when someone scores a 160 on the Naglieri?
I have no idea why you are surprised a kid who formerly got two 99% now gets a perfect score. Where is the news other than what may be a slight surprise on your part?
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2019 16:53     Subject: What does it mean when someone scores a 160 on the Naglieri?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm curious, why did your 9th grader take the test? I'm only familiar with it as it's used in the elementary years. Was it a requirement for a special program or a scholarship or something?

This is absolutely not meant to be snarky. I am genuinely curious, and congrats to your DD for her excellent score.



All the Freshmen were given it. I assume it was done to pick up more students for the gifted program. I am surprised that she had to take it. She’s already in Gifted, and once a kid is in they stay in throughout their school career. I’m not sure why her school had kids who are already in the program take the test again.


Was she given the nnat or other test prior to this one (ever), since she’s already in a gifted program?[/quote]


Yes, back in 3rd grade when the initial gifted screening was done for all kids, she was given the Naglieri and Cogat.


And....?



I guess you mean what were her scores? I don't recall her actual scores. I do know that she scored 99% on the Naglieri and on both sections of the Cogat, but I don't have a recollection of being stunned by her having received the highest possible score. I know that there is a pretty big range for what is considered the 99th percentile. One of her friends got a 140 on the Naglieri and that was considered the 99th percentile as well.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2019 16:31     Subject: What does it mean when someone scores a 160 on the Naglieri?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm curious, why did your 9th grader take the test? I'm only familiar with it as it's used in the elementary years. Was it a requirement for a special program or a scholarship or something?

This is absolutely not meant to be snarky. I am genuinely curious, and congrats to your DD for her excellent score.



All the Freshmen were given it. I assume it was done to pick up more students for the gifted program. I am surprised that she had to take it. She’s already in Gifted, and once a kid is in they stay in throughout their school career. I’m not sure why her school had kids who are already in the program take the test again.


Was she given the nnat or other test prior to this one (ever), since she’s already in a gifted program?[/quote]


Yes, back in 3rd grade when the initial gifted screening was done for all kids, she was given the Naglieri and Cogat.


And....?
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2019 15:48     Subject: What does it mean when someone scores a 160 on the Naglieri?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm curious, why did your 9th grader take the test? I'm only familiar with it as it's used in the elementary years. Was it a requirement for a special program or a scholarship or something?

This is absolutely not meant to be snarky. I am genuinely curious, and congrats to your DD for her excellent score.



All the Freshmen were given it. I assume it was done to pick up more students for the gifted program. I am surprised that she had to take it. She’s already in Gifted, and once a kid is in they stay in throughout their school career. I’m not sure why her school had kids who are already in the program take the test again.


Was she given the nnat or other test prior to this one (ever), since she’s already in a gifted program?[/quote]


Yes, back in 3rd grade when the initial gifted screening was done for all kids, she was given the Naglieri and Cogat.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2019 15:37     Subject: What does it mean when someone scores a 160 on the Naglieri?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm curious, why did your 9th grader take the test? I'm only familiar with it as it's used in the elementary years. Was it a requirement for a special program or a scholarship or something?

This is absolutely not meant to be snarky. I am genuinely curious, and congrats to your DD for her excellent score.



All the Freshmen were given it. I assume it was done to pick up more students for the gifted program. I am surprised that she had to take it. She’s already in Gifted, and once a kid is in they stay in throughout their school career. I’m not sure why her school had kids who are already in the program take the test again.


Was she given the nnat or other test prior to this one (ever), since she’s already in a gifted program?
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2019 15:08     Subject: What does it mean when someone scores a 160 on the Naglieri?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My 9th grade daughter took the Naglieri in school this year, we just received her scores and she received a 160 which is the highest score one can get. This is NOT meant to be a humble brag or boastful post, but I have to say I am floored. I've always known she is very smart, but I don't see her as being a genius. Yet, a 160 does seem rather extraordinary to me. What exactly does it say about a person who receives a score like this? I'm wondering if I should be doing something to develop her abilities in STEM topics. Her extracurriculars are all arts related, she has never done anything like programming, robotics, etc. I guess I'm wondering where do we go from here? Or is there any reason to go anywhere at all?


that is definitely an amazing score and she should be proud as she has awesome reasoning skills. I would recommend to get her tested for WISC to get the actual IQ.
who knows she might even qualified to join Prometheus club or at least triple nine club. I know for Prometheus club, they only take MAT scores lately so that one would be
bit more challenging.



What are the Prometheus and Triple 9 Clubs?


it's high IQ club like Mensa. Triple 9 requires to be top 0.1 % while Prometheus needs to be top 0.03%
considering large portion of AAP kids already qualify for Mensa that kinda lost merit of having high IQ club.
one can join Triple 9 or Prometheus through taking MAT. SB can get you in to Triple 9. That's if someone wants to become a member.
more of bragging rights, although they do provide some good networking in some ways
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2019 15:00     Subject: What does it mean when someone scores a 160 on the Naglieri?
Anonymous wrote:I'm curious, why did your 9th grader take the test? I'm only familiar with it as it's used in the elementary years. Was it a requirement for a special program or a scholarship or something?

This is absolutely not meant to be snarky. I am genuinely curious, and congrats to your DD for her excellent score.



All the Freshmen were given it. I assume it was done to pick up more students for the gifted program. I am surprised that she had to take it. She’s already in Gifted, and once a kid is in they stay in throughout their school career. I’m not sure why her school had kids who are already in the program take the test again.