Anonymous
11/14/2019 11:48
Subject: Re:Should players be allowed to train with other clubs
Anonymous wrote:If it's a serious program, no, they should not let their players train with other clubs during the season.
Can you imagine this even being a real question overseas? Like some kid from Barca sneaks across town to train with Espanyol once a week? Or a Man City player training with Man U on the side?
Well a "serious program" as you suggest does not charge the players.
You are a paying customer, a customer who is paying a club to TEACH soccer. Would you feel the same about a piano instructor or a tutor?
The clubs do not own the kids and have no real say in where else you may get training. As long as you meet your clubs obligations and make their games what you do on your own time is none of their friggin business.
Anonymous
11/14/2019 11:37
Subject: Re:Should players be allowed to train with other clubs
Anonymous wrote:If it's a serious program, no, they should not let their players train with other clubs during the season.
Can you imagine this even being a real question overseas? Like some kid from Barca sneaks across town to train with Espanyol once a week? Or a Man City player training with Man U on the side?
Actually, having been over there, yes they do allow that. If a player comes from a distance, some academies allow the player to train one or two days a week with a local team (either playing up or a girl training with boys, examples like that) and then come to the Academy two days a week.
Anonymous
11/14/2019 11:30
Subject: Re:Should players be allowed to train with other clubs
If it's a serious program, no, they should not let their players train with other clubs during the season.
Can you imagine this even being a real question overseas? Like some kid from Barca sneaks across town to train with Espanyol once a week? Or a Man City player training with Man U on the side?
Can you imagine this even being a real question overseas? Like some kid from Barca sneaks across town to train with Espanyol once a week? Or a Man City player training with Man U on the side?
Anonymous
11/14/2019 11:27
Subject: Should players be allowed to train with other clubs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If a player has a commitment to one club, should they be allowed to train with another club?
If your coach is concerned about you leaving and you are looking for more competitive players, ask to have your DD train with the boys.
Depending on the age of the girl and the boys.
We have a girl training with our boys team. The boys seem to hold back with her there. Might be good for the girl, but it’s annoying to the boys.
LOL
"seem to hold back", ok, sounds like the built in excuse boys make when a girl beats them.
If the kids are all under 12 there is little to no reason for the boys to hold back as they have no inherent physiological advantage over the girl.
And how would they even think to do that unless someone is telling them? Generally I've seen the opposite. Boys fight harder when a girl is there because they don't like her besting them.
Anonymous
11/14/2019 10:52
Subject: Should players be allowed to train with other clubs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If a player has a commitment to one club, should they be allowed to train with another club?
If your coach is concerned about you leaving and you are looking for more competitive players, ask to have your DD train with the boys.
Depending on the age of the girl and the boys.
We have a girl training with our boys team. The boys seem to hold back with her there. Might be good for the girl, but it’s annoying to the boys.
LOL
"seem to hold back", ok, sounds like the built in excuse boys make when a girl beats them.
If the kids are all under 12 there is little to no reason for the boys to hold back as they have no inherent physiological advantage over the girl.
Anonymous
11/14/2019 10:52
Subject: Should players be allowed to train with other clubs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If a player has a commitment to one club, should they be allowed to train with another club?
If your coach is concerned about you leaving and you are looking for more competitive players, ask to have your DD train with the boys.
Depending on the age of the girl and the boys.
We have a girl training with our boys team. The boys seem to hold back with her there. Might be good for the girl, but it’s annoying to the boys.
It's more than annoying - it waters down the boys training so the girls can get better. It's the same thing when the B or C team demands to train with the A team. Coaches and clubs that do this are degrading training for one group for the sake of the other. It's a very bad sign.
Anonymous
11/14/2019 10:48
Subject: Should players be allowed to train with other clubs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If a player has a commitment to one club, should they be allowed to train with another club?
If your coach is concerned about you leaving and you are looking for more competitive players, ask to have your DD train with the boys.
Depending on the age of the girl and the boys.
We have a girl training with our boys team. The boys seem to hold back with her there. Might be good for the girl, but it’s annoying to the boys.
Anonymous
11/14/2019 09:05
Subject: Should players be allowed to train with other clubs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If a player has a commitment to one club, should they be allowed to train with another club?
If your coach is concerned about you leaving and you are looking for more competitive players, ask to have your DD train with the boys.
Depending on the age of the girl and the boys.
Anonymous
11/14/2019 08:25
Subject: Should players be allowed to train with other clubs
Anonymous wrote:If a player has a commitment to one club, should they be allowed to train with another club?
If your coach is concerned about you leaving and you are looking for more competitive players, ask to have your DD train with the boys.
Anonymous
11/13/2019 18:24
Subject: Should players be allowed to train with other clubs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just do it, at the end of the day the decision to stay where you’re at or move elsewhere rests with you and your player. If it’s truly a higher level than where you’re currently at, your coach shouldn’t be so hesitant. Their highest priority should be for your player to do what’s best for their development, not win youth games for them.
This happened with one of our players last season. People should be free to do what they want, and every situation will vary, but in our case, the effects on the kid and the team were not positive. The kid left. I wish he'd left sooner. He went to a club where they are simply recruiting players from other clubs instead of promoting other players developed internally. The coach in question wants to establish a reputation for recruiting. That, he now has. You'd think he'd want a reputation as a good coach. That probably is not within his grasp.
Recruiting is not a dirty word. As players develop, the very best will want to be playing together. A coach who is good at recruiting can make that happen. Especially if that coach is plugged into a club with better infrastructure, league access, etc. If you are one of those best players, you absolutely want to be playing with the other best players. It means some teams and teammates will be left behind.
We did not feel left behind. We're on a comparable level as both club and team. The parents were very interested in having their kid with the ball as much as possible and going fast in one direction at all times. The coach and club appeal to those parents. No doubt we are all better off under those circumstances. So I agree that recruitment is not a dirty word, certainly not an inherently dirty one.
Anonymous
11/13/2019 17:39
Subject: Should players be allowed to train with other clubs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just do it, at the end of the day the decision to stay where you’re at or move elsewhere rests with you and your player. If it’s truly a higher level than where you’re currently at, your coach shouldn’t be so hesitant. Their highest priority should be for your player to do what’s best for their development, not win youth games for them.
This happened with one of our players last season. People should be free to do what they want, and every situation will vary, but in our case, the effects on the kid and the team were not positive. The kid left. I wish he'd left sooner. He went to a club where they are simply recruiting players from other clubs instead of promoting other players developed internally. The coach in question wants to establish a reputation for recruiting. That, he now has. You'd think he'd want a reputation as a good coach. That probably is not within his grasp.
Recruiting is not a dirty word. As players develop, the very best will want to be playing together. A coach who is good at recruiting can make that happen. Especially if that coach is plugged into a club with better infrastructure, league access, etc. If you are one of those best players, you absolutely want to be playing with the other best players. It means some teams and teammates will be left behind.
Best players play in the DA or play in the ECNL. I wouldn’t think much recruiting is needed.
Little recruiting when there are few options. However, given the plethora of options in VA and I would include MD, the recruitment and competition is for clubs within those two leagues.
Anonymous
11/13/2019 17:09
Subject: Should players be allowed to train with other clubs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just do it, at the end of the day the decision to stay where you’re at or move elsewhere rests with you and your player. If it’s truly a higher level than where you’re currently at, your coach shouldn’t be so hesitant. Their highest priority should be for your player to do what’s best for their development, not win youth games for them.
This happened with one of our players last season. People should be free to do what they want, and every situation will vary, but in our case, the effects on the kid and the team were not positive. The kid left. I wish he'd left sooner. He went to a club where they are simply recruiting players from other clubs instead of promoting other players developed internally. The coach in question wants to establish a reputation for recruiting. That, he now has. You'd think he'd want a reputation as a good coach. That probably is not within his grasp.
Recruiting is not a dirty word. As players develop, the very best will want to be playing together. A coach who is good at recruiting can make that happen. Especially if that coach is plugged into a club with better infrastructure, league access, etc. If you are one of those best players, you absolutely want to be playing with the other best players. It means some teams and teammates will be left behind.
Best players play in the DA or play in the ECNL. I wouldn’t think much recruiting is needed.
Anonymous
11/13/2019 16:45
Subject: Should players be allowed to train with other clubs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just do it, at the end of the day the decision to stay where you’re at or move elsewhere rests with you and your player. If it’s truly a higher level than where you’re currently at, your coach shouldn’t be so hesitant. Their highest priority should be for your player to do what’s best for their development, not win youth games for them.
This happened with one of our players last season. People should be free to do what they want, and every situation will vary, but in our case, the effects on the kid and the team were not positive. The kid left. I wish he'd left sooner. He went to a club where they are simply recruiting players from other clubs instead of promoting other players developed internally. The coach in question wants to establish a reputation for recruiting. That, he now has. You'd think he'd want a reputation as a good coach. That probably is not within his grasp.
Recruiting is not a dirty word. As players develop, the very best will want to be playing together. A coach who is good at recruiting can make that happen. Especially if that coach is plugged into a club with better infrastructure, league access, etc. If you are one of those best players, you absolutely want to be playing with the other best players. It means some teams and teammates will be left behind.
Anonymous
11/13/2019 15:55
Subject: Should players be allowed to train with other clubs
Anonymous wrote:Just do it, at the end of the day the decision to stay where you’re at or move elsewhere rests with you and your player. If it’s truly a higher level than where you’re currently at, your coach shouldn’t be so hesitant. Their highest priority should be for your player to do what’s best for their development, not win youth games for them.
This happened with one of our players last season. People should be free to do what they want, and every situation will vary, but in our case, the effects on the kid and the team were not positive. The kid left. I wish he'd left sooner. He went to a club where they are simply recruiting players from other clubs instead of promoting other players developed internally. The coach in question wants to establish a reputation for recruiting. That, he now has. You'd think he'd want a reputation as a good coach. That probably is not within his grasp.
Anonymous
11/13/2019 15:43
Subject: Should players be allowed to train with other clubs
Just do it, at the end of the day the decision to stay where you’re at or move elsewhere rests with you and your player. If it’s truly a higher level than where you’re currently at, your coach shouldn’t be so hesitant. Their highest priority should be for your player to do what’s best for their development, not win youth games for them.