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Anonymous wrote:Go drive a Porsche Macan or Cayenne. They blow any Lexus away.

In maintenance costs? Sure does

+ 4,274.16

Which is what front brake rotors and pads cost on my wife's Cayenne Turbo cost back in June. At 65,000 miles.

Meanwhile my 2011 Avalon with 160k was $600 for all four brakes, at 140k.


That Porsche has been the biggest POS we've ever owned. But she needs an appropriate "image" vehicle for work. So we deal with it.

Any mechanic can change brakes on a car, why would you do that at the dealer. You can even pay less if you buy the parts and let a mechanic just swap them!

No, "any mechanic" can't change the carbon-ceramic brake rotors. First, they're a dealer-only item. It's not like you can stop by Autozone on your way to Hair Cuttery to get your mullet trimmed, and pick up a set of $3,000 rotors. Second, Jethro or Cletus down at the Texaco station have no idea how to install or heat-set carbon brakes.

So yeah, it's gotta go to the dealer for four grand.

plastic, ceramic, SS, whatever. Does it really matter unless you are professionally racing and I doubt that you are? It's a shame that you are stupid enough to lock yourself into a dealer's claws in this manner. I feel sorry for you boy.

I'm not the guy you're arguing with but you have no idea what you're talking about.

1. Carbon ceramic brakes are incredibly expensive to replace
2. Most of the replacement cost is parts so going to a Euro indy mechanic is not going to be much cheaper
3. There is no easy way to switch from $$$ carbon ceramics to cheaper steel rotors

Ugh, I'm in this boat too. I love my RX350 but DH insists it's too small with two car seats in the back. I hate feeling like I'm driving a big truck which I why I ended up with the RX350 and not an Explorer. He's currently trying to sell me on the LX since I like Lexus, or a VW Atlas, possibly a Q7, the GL, or the Explorer ST. Have to admit 400hp is tempting. I hate the idea of a high-maintenance, expensive to maintain daily driver, so I don't really want German.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Go drive a Porsche Macan or Cayenne. They blow any Lexus away.

In maintenance costs? Sure does

+ 4,274.16

Which is what front brake rotors and pads cost on my wife's Cayenne Turbo cost back in June. At 65,000 miles.

Meanwhile my 2011 Avalon with 160k was $600 for all four brakes, at 140k.


That Porsche has been the biggest POS we've ever owned. But she needs an appropriate "image" vehicle for work. So we deal with it.

Any mechanic can change brakes on a car, why would you do that at the dealer. You can even pay less if you buy the parts and let a mechanic just swap them!

No, "any mechanic" can't change the carbon-ceramic brake rotors. First, they're a dealer-only item. It's not like you can stop by Autozone on your way to Hair Cuttery to get your mullet trimmed, and pick up a set of $3,000 rotors. Second, Jethro or Cletus down at the Texaco station have no idea how to install or heat-set carbon brakes.

So yeah, it's gotta go to the dealer for four grand.

plastic, ceramic, SS, whatever. Does it really matter unless you are professionally racing and I doubt that you are? It's a shame that you are stupid enough to lock yourself into a dealer's claws in this manner. I feel sorry for you boy.

They have changed the grille on the 2020 GX 460 models

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This is why I love DCUM. We are in the market for a great SUV and have started looking at some of the luxury brands - Lexus, Audi, Merc and BMW. The comments here are so helpful.! Dh is leaning towards BMW and I towards the ugly ( grille) but reliable Lexus . Shamelessly piggybacking , here..pls help us decide. Keep the comments coming

Anonymous wrote:So all Cayennes rotors are ceramic? Was interested in getting a Cayenne so I think I should stick to Mercedes

No, it's an option on the Turbo and Turbo S.

Standard rotors are crossdrilled steel.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve been looking at the GX, but it’s very dated and in need of a redesign. Planning to get rid of my 2009 X5, which is costly to maintain. From what I can tell online, Lexus has no plans for an update any time soon. And that grille is horrendous.

1. GX which has an "ugly" grille

2. X5 which will depreciate more than fifty grand over 10 years, cost you at least 5k in repairs, and probably leave you stranded at least once.

Tough choice for me...

It's not just the grille, which you of course know having read my post. And between the two, I'm keeping my X5 for now, and it's not even a close call. The GX is undeniably dated, particular the interior. Its ride is hard and its handling sucks. Lexus may get around to giving it the update it deserves, but I can't imagine buying one before it does.

So all Cayennes rotors are ceramic? Was interested in getting a Cayenne so I think I should stick to Mercedes

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Go drive a Porsche Macan or Cayenne. They blow any Lexus away.

In maintenance costs? Sure does

+ 4,274.16

Which is what front brake rotors and pads cost on my wife's Cayenne Turbo cost back in June. At 65,000 miles.

Meanwhile my 2011 Avalon with 160k was $600 for all four brakes, at 140k.


That Porsche has been the biggest POS we've ever owned. But she needs an appropriate "image" vehicle for work. So we deal with it.

Any mechanic can change brakes on a car, why would you do that at the dealer. You can even pay less if you buy the parts and let a mechanic just swap them!

No, "any mechanic" can't change the carbon-ceramic brake rotors. First, they're a dealer-only item. It's not like you can stop by Autozone on your way to Hair Cuttery to get your mullet trimmed, and pick up a set of $3,000 rotors. Second, Jethro or Cletus down at the Texaco station have no idea how to install or heat-set carbon brakes.

So yeah, it's gotta go to the dealer for four grand.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Go drive a Porsche Macan or Cayenne. They blow any Lexus away.

In maintenance costs? Sure does

+ 4,274.16

Which is what front brake rotors and pads cost on my wife's Cayenne Turbo cost back in June. At 65,000 miles.

Meanwhile my 2011 Avalon with 160k was $600 for all four brakes, at 140k.


That Porsche has been the biggest POS we've ever owned. But she needs an appropriate "image" vehicle for work. So we deal with it.

Any mechanic can change brakes on a car, why would you do that at the dealer. You can even pay less if you buy the parts and let a mechanic just swap them!

Anonymous wrote:I’ve been looking at the GX, but it’s very dated and in need of a redesign. Planning to get rid of my 2009 X5, which is costly to maintain. From what I can tell online, Lexus has no plans for an update any time soon. And that grille is horrendous.

1. GX which has an "ugly" grille

2. X5 which will depreciate more than fifty grand over 10 years, cost you at least 5k in repairs, and probably leave you stranded at least once.

Tough choice for me...

I’ve been looking at the GX, but it’s very dated and in need of a redesign. Planning to get rid of my 2009 X5, which is costly to maintain. From what I can tell online, Lexus has no plans for an update any time soon. And that grille is horrendous.

Lx is way higher than GX. I’ m I missing something?

Get a used LX