Anonymous
Post 10/14/2019 18:32     Subject: Re:Dog crying in crate all night -- help!
Anonymous wrote:She needs to be crate trained, which involves a lot more than simply putting her into a crate.

She should be fed in the crate, have her water in the crate. Get a treat every time she goes into the crate. Be put in multiple times a day, and then be let out quite quickly.

https://www.humanesociety.org/resources/crate-training-101


Try white noise for your room so that you don't hear her crying. She will get used to it. Crates are not cruel at all, for the PP who obviously knows nothing about dogs.


Cages are cruel - but they are also convenient and so for many people, convenience wins. Same as in research, animals are kept in small cages, even dogs or monkeys. Sure it is out of necessity and convenience - doesn't mean it isn't cruel. Don't delude yourself that any animals wants to be locked up in a small cage without any freedom and only minimal ability to move. no matter how much easier it makes your life.
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2019 18:18     Subject: Re:Dog crying in crate all night -- help!
Anonymous wrote:According to Humane Society
“Crate training takes advantage of your dog's natural instincts as a den animal. A wild dog's den is their home—a place to sleep, hide from danger and raise a family. The crate becomes your dog's den, where they can find comfort and solitude while you know they’re safe and secure.”

Dogs and humans are different. My dog likes to roll on dead things, I don’t. Just because you wouldn’t like to sleep in a crate doesn’t mean your dog doesn't like it.


I think the issue is how long people are forcing their dogs to be crated. All day while they're at work and then at night while humans are sleeping is way too much.
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2019 18:17     Subject: Re:Dog crying in crate all night -- help!
Anonymous wrote:According to Humane Society
“Crate training takes advantage of your dog's natural instincts as a den animal. A wild dog's den is their home—a place to sleep, hide from danger and raise a family. The crate becomes your dog's den, where they can find comfort and solitude while you know they’re safe and secure.”

Dogs and humans are different. My dog likes to roll on dead things, I don’t. Just because you wouldn’t like to sleep in a crate doesn’t mean your dog doesn't like it.

If the OPs dog liked it, the dog would not scream all night. Or are those cries of joy?
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2019 18:15     Subject: Re:Dog crying in crate all night -- help!
Anonymous wrote:According to Humane Society
“Crate training takes advantage of your dog's natural instincts as a den animal. A wild dog's den is their home—a place to sleep, hide from danger and raise a family. The crate becomes your dog's den, where they can find comfort and solitude while you know they’re safe and secure.”

Dogs and humans are different. My dog likes to roll on dead things, I don’t. Just because you wouldn’t like to sleep in a crate doesn’t mean your dog doesn't like it.
It doesn't mean all dogs like it either.
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2019 18:05     Subject: Re:Dog crying in crate all night -- help!
According to Humane Society
“Crate training takes advantage of your dog's natural instincts as a den animal. A wild dog's den is their home—a place to sleep, hide from danger and raise a family. The crate becomes your dog's den, where they can find comfort and solitude while you know they’re safe and secure.”

Dogs and humans are different. My dog likes to roll on dead things, I don’t. Just because you wouldn’t like to sleep in a crate doesn’t mean your dog doesn't like it.
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2019 16:28     Subject: Dog crying in crate all night -- help!
We never had a crate for our dogs either. I understand crates for a puppy to stop it pooping everywhere but once it's been house trained, no more. As for the posters saying that their dogs are OK with it, if that's all the dog knows, then what else is it going to do? It's been trained to do something so it becomes habit, doesn't mean that the dog likes it.
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2019 15:54     Subject: Dog crying in crate all night -- help!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would just let her sleep in my room. If you hear her cry take her out. Hearing dogs cry makes my heart break too.


+1 Why are you crating this dog? If she has an accident in the room, so be it - you clean it up. Work on housetraining her through actual training - not by keeping her locked in a cage where her heart is breaking every night.

You adopted this dog to be part of your family. Let her be part of your family.

I don't understand the American obsession with crating dogs. I'm American myself - but this is not how my dogs grew up and I just cannot fathom putting a well behaved dog through this. You can crate a dog if you must for her own safety but this should not be the first step in training a dog. It's very cruel.

I agree, I hear people crating their dogs for 9-10 hours while they work and another 8-9 hours at night every day and then there is additional crate time when they are 'busy' or want to go out or whatever. The poor things spend more time in the crate than out. I understand the principle, but it was never intended by anyone as a long-term housing arrangement for a dog. I have never found it necessary or helpful to crate any of my dogs.


I grew up with a dog who was never crated, and then as an adult we had a dog who had a soft crate. My childhood dog slept either on my parents' bed or on the floor near their bed. We only crated my dog I had as an adult when we first got her and were training her. We'd leave for a half hour, then hour, then two, then four, and crate her for that time. Once she was okay that way, we tried out leaving her loose for a half hour, then hour, then two, etc. This was all over a two week period (she was 2 yrs old and untrained and neglected when we got her).

She had her crate as a cozy place to hang out (soft crate, plus a dog bed, bowl of water, couple of toys). She could sleep in there at night if she wanted (or on our bed), but also go in if there were workmen in the house, or a big party that was annoying her. It was very, VERY rare that we would zip her in her crate, and if we did, it was generally for less than an hour.

See, that sounds fine, no problems there.
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2019 15:51     Subject: Dog crying in crate all night -- help!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would just let her sleep in my room. If you hear her cry take her out. Hearing dogs cry makes my heart break too.


+1 Why are you crating this dog? If she has an accident in the room, so be it - you clean it up. Work on housetraining her through actual training - not by keeping her locked in a cage where her heart is breaking every night.

You adopted this dog to be part of your family. Let her be part of your family.

I don't understand the American obsession with crating dogs. I'm American myself - but this is not how my dogs grew up and I just cannot fathom putting a well behaved dog through this. You can crate a dog if you must for her own safety but this should not be the first step in training a dog. It's very cruel.


If you don't understand crate training, then you don't really understand dogs either. Educate yourself.

I understand dogs enough to know that they are not meant to be isolated in a 24in X 36in space for upwards of 20 hours a day indefinitely. My issue is that crates are abused/become a crutch. There are certainly many ways to train a dog and I've been successful without a crate for 40+ years, I don't need one now.
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2019 15:31     Subject: Dog crying in crate all night -- help!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would just let her sleep in my room. If you hear her cry take her out. Hearing dogs cry makes my heart break too.


+1 Why are you crating this dog? If she has an accident in the room, so be it - you clean it up. Work on housetraining her through actual training - not by keeping her locked in a cage where her heart is breaking every night.

You adopted this dog to be part of your family. Let her be part of your family.

I don't understand the American obsession with crating dogs. I'm American myself - but this is not how my dogs grew up and I just cannot fathom putting a well behaved dog through this. You can crate a dog if you must for her own safety but this should not be the first step in training a dog. It's very cruel.


If you don't understand crate training, then you don't really understand dogs either. Educate yourself.
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2019 15:30     Subject: Dog crying in crate all night -- help!
Anonymous wrote:I've always had a dog. The crate is in the master bedroom. Always.

Totally disagree with 12:21.

More than 1 person has posted that crate training advice and how to do it. Not sure what you have to disagree with since you are also crating dog. Not everyone wants the crate in the bedroom, and it makes crate training more difficult.
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2019 15:25     Subject: Dog crying in crate all night -- help!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would just let her sleep in my room. If you hear her cry take her out. Hearing dogs cry makes my heart break too.


+1 Why are you crating this dog? If she has an accident in the room, so be it - you clean it up. Work on housetraining her through actual training - not by keeping her locked in a cage where her heart is breaking every night.

You adopted this dog to be part of your family. Let her be part of your family.

I don't understand the American obsession with crating dogs. I'm American myself - but this is not how my dogs grew up and I just cannot fathom putting a well behaved dog through this. You can crate a dog if you must for her own safety but this should not be the first step in training a dog. It's very cruel.

I agree, I hear people crating their dogs for 9-10 hours while they work and another 8-9 hours at night every day and then there is additional crate time when they are 'busy' or want to go out or whatever. The poor things spend more time in the crate than out. I understand the principle, but it was never intended by anyone as a long-term housing arrangement for a dog. I have never found it necessary or helpful to crate any of my dogs.


I grew up with a dog who was never crated, and then as an adult we had a dog who had a soft crate. My childhood dog slept either on my parents' bed or on the floor near their bed. We only crated my dog I had as an adult when we first got her and were training her. We'd leave for a half hour, then hour, then two, then four, and crate her for that time. Once she was okay that way, we tried out leaving her loose for a half hour, then hour, then two, etc. This was all over a two week period (she was 2 yrs old and untrained and neglected when we got her).

She had her crate as a cozy place to hang out (soft crate, plus a dog bed, bowl of water, couple of toys). She could sleep in there at night if she wanted (or on our bed), but also go in if there were workmen in the house, or a big party that was annoying her. It was very, VERY rare that we would zip her in her crate, and if we did, it was generally for less than an hour.
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2019 15:19     Subject: Dog crying in crate all night -- help!
I would make sure there's nothing wrong as this is a new thing but keep crate training. Our dogs have always been crate trained and it is not cruel. As stated above-they feel safe in their space. Our last two dogs would let us know it was time for bed and walk into their crates themselves. The 6 month old puppy we have now has never minded. The added benefit of the crate is thé continuity it offers if you travel as their bed stays same.
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2019 14:44     Subject: Dog crying in crate all night -- help!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would just let her sleep in my room. If you hear her cry take her out. Hearing dogs cry makes my heart break too.


+1 Why are you crating this dog? If she has an accident in the room, so be it - you clean it up. Work on housetraining her through actual training - not by keeping her locked in a cage where her heart is breaking every night.

You adopted this dog to be part of your family. Let her be part of your family.

I don't understand the American obsession with crating dogs. I'm American myself - but this is not how my dogs grew up and I just cannot fathom putting a well behaved dog through this. You can crate a dog if you must for her own safety but this should not be the first step in training a dog. It's very cruel.

I agree, I hear people crating their dogs for 9-10 hours while they work and another 8-9 hours at night every day and then there is additional crate time when they are 'busy' or want to go out or whatever. The poor things spend more time in the crate than out. I understand the principle, but it was never intended by anyone as a long-term housing arrangement for a dog. I have never found it necessary or helpful to crate any of my dogs.
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2019 12:35     Subject: Dog crying in crate all night -- help!
Anonymous wrote:I would just let her sleep in my room. If you hear her cry take her out. Hearing dogs cry makes my heart break too.


+1 Why are you crating this dog? If she has an accident in the room, so be it - you clean it up. Work on housetraining her through actual training - not by keeping her locked in a cage where her heart is breaking every night.

You adopted this dog to be part of your family. Let her be part of your family.

I don't understand the American obsession with crating dogs. I'm American myself - but this is not how my dogs grew up and I just cannot fathom putting a well behaved dog through this. You can crate a dog if you must for her own safety but this should not be the first step in training a dog. It's very cruel.
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2019 12:33     Subject: Dog crying in crate all night -- help!
I've always had a dog. The crate is in the master bedroom. Always.

Totally disagree with 12:21.