Anonymous
10/12/2019 11:07
Subject: Re:“Ask 3 before me”
Anonymous wrote:The reality is that teachers can not win. If the teacher spends the entire reading block answering simple questions about a follow up activity or a center, the reading group children will not learn to read. Imagine, for just a second, that you were responsible for 26 six year olds. The most meaningful part of the reading block is small group instruction at the students level. The follow ups are important but they are also reviewed the next day with the group. Now you have 23 other students who ask silly six year old questions about everything from getting a drink of water to where should I write my name. Now you have not instructed a single child on their level at a critical juncture in the learning to read years. You are now livid that your child is not learning to read because someone else is constantly interrupting their instruction.
Parents please remember that although your child is, and should be, your number one priority, they are one of many in the classroom. To a teacher, they are no more or less important than any other child. They are more than capable of asking a friend first as many of the children will know exactly what to do which preserves the time for your child to learn to read on their instructional level.
This. I wish we could videotape classrooms so parents would finally believe what we are telling them. We give directions and kids are not listening and then don’t know what to do. Most teachers do not allow kids to interrupt them during small group time. In many cases, it is only 15 minutes per group. If the four kids who weren’t paying attention interrupted when they finally realized that they don’t know what to do, small group time would be affected. I have a weekly job called teacher’s helper and those two kids are the go to people during small group time.
Anonymous
10/12/2019 10:23
Subject: “Ask 3 before me”
Anonymous wrote:3 before me is a very common approach in elementary school but 1st grade is a but too young. I find it works best from 3rd grade.
Chalk it up to a learning experience. Reinforce to him that this is why it is important to listen to the instructions. Assure him that everyone makes mistakes and gets things wrong sometimes. And then let it go.
+1 but I'd go further- making mistakes is okay, that's how we learn.
I'm more concerned that the child and parent are upset about how the child did on a basic classwork/practice assignment and it's causing tears. The message I'd give is I'm proud of you for trying and doing your best and then think about what they might do next time... listen to directions more carefully, ask before the teacher starts groups, ask a different friend, or think about the assignment and what would make sense-- now kid knows that the independent work in class often has to do with using his spelling or word study words, he may not have made the connection before, but if you help him process he can see.
It's a learning experience and he can grow from it. Please help kids recognize this and not expect every assignment to be perfect every time.
Anonymous
10/12/2019 08:49
Subject: “Ask 3 before me”
3 before me is a very common approach in elementary school but 1st grade is a but too young. I find it works best from 3rd grade.
Chalk it up to a learning experience. Reinforce to him that this is why it is important to listen to the instructions. Assure him that everyone makes mistakes and gets things wrong sometimes. And then let it go.
Chalk it up to a learning experience. Reinforce to him that this is why it is important to listen to the instructions. Assure him that everyone makes mistakes and gets things wrong sometimes. And then let it go.
Anonymous
10/12/2019 08:44
Subject: Re:“Ask 3 before me”
The reality is that teachers can not win. If the teacher spends the entire reading block answering simple questions about a follow up activity or a center, the reading group children will not learn to read. Imagine, for just a second, that you were responsible for 26 six year olds. The most meaningful part of the reading block is small group instruction at the students level. The follow ups are important but they are also reviewed the next day with the group. Now you have 23 other students who ask silly six year old questions about everything from getting a drink of water to where should I write my name. Now you have not instructed a single child on their level at a critical juncture in the learning to read years. You are now livid that your child is not learning to read because someone else is constantly interrupting their instruction.
Parents please remember that although your child is, and should be, your number one priority, they are one of many in the classroom. To a teacher, they are no more or less important than any other child. They are more than capable of asking a friend first as many of the children will know exactly what to do which preserves the time for your child to learn to read on their instructional level.
Parents please remember that although your child is, and should be, your number one priority, they are one of many in the classroom. To a teacher, they are no more or less important than any other child. They are more than capable of asking a friend first as many of the children will know exactly what to do which preserves the time for your child to learn to read on their instructional level.
Anonymous
10/12/2019 08:41
Subject: Re:“Ask 3 before me”
Anonymous wrote:So this is where kids with adhd (inattentive type) begin being left behind by the school system. Good to know.
The teacher may not have even followed her own rule here! Did he ask 3? We don’t know, but he did ask 1! Building confidence in the classroom is so important in the early years. This is a bad teacher who may be teaching kids to be too afraid to go to the teacher for help in the later years.
Just the opposite. This is where kids with ADHD will start to be identified and get on the road to formal help, maybe eventually with an IEP or 504. And this is where kids who are just not paying attention learn there are consequences - like having to wait to get your questions answered.
Anonymous
10/12/2019 08:30
Subject: Re:“Ask 3 before me”
Anonymous wrote:So this is where kids with adhd (inattentive type) begin being left behind by the school system. Good to know.
The teacher may not have even followed her own rule here! Did he ask 3? We don’t know, but he did ask 1! Building confidence in the classroom is so important in the early years. This is a bad teacher who may be teaching kids to be too afraid to go to the teacher for help in the later years.
+100
Anonymous
10/12/2019 08:30
Subject: “Ask 3 before me”
In my school we say “ask a friend!”
Anonymous
10/12/2019 08:11
Subject: Re:“Ask 3 before me”
Anonymous wrote:So this is where kids with adhd (inattentive type) begin being left behind by the school system. Good to know.
The teacher may not have even followed her own rule here! Did he ask 3? We don’t know, but he did ask 1! Building confidence in the classroom is so important in the early years. This is a bad teacher who may be teaching kids to be too afraid to go to the teacher for help in the later years.
You have ONE small kid’s explanation of this to go by. Yet you somehow reach all these conclusions about how bad the teacher must be.
Anonymous
10/12/2019 08:04
Subject: Re:“Ask 3 before me”
So this is where kids with adhd (inattentive type) begin being left behind by the school system. Good to know.
The teacher may not have even followed her own rule here! Did he ask 3? We don’t know, but he did ask 1! Building confidence in the classroom is so important in the early years. This is a bad teacher who may be teaching kids to be too afraid to go to the teacher for help in the later years.
The teacher may not have even followed her own rule here! Did he ask 3? We don’t know, but he did ask 1! Building confidence in the classroom is so important in the early years. This is a bad teacher who may be teaching kids to be too afraid to go to the teacher for help in the later years.
Anonymous
10/12/2019 07:32
Subject: “Ask 3 before me”
Anonymous wrote:'NP here. Exactly— he had a real question & felt he couldn’t ask the teacher for help. My kid has a teacher who does this, and I think it’s lazy teaching at some point. Sure, there are things kids could legitimately ask a peer, but kids shouldn’t be relying on peers to teach them how to do the schoolwork. That is ridiculous. Also, my kid has gotten frustrated when the teacher won’t answer a question that clearly none of the kids can answer. It’s the teacher’s job to address kids’ legitimate questions."
+1000 percent
I think it’s brilliant. Teacher needs to teach and kid learns that when you don’t listen you have to figure it out on your own. If you don’t, the teacher will attend to you after she finishes with the kids who are where they are supposed to be and doing what they are supposed to be doing. Those kids don’t get short changed because of another kid’s misbehavior. And the misbehaving kid gets what he needs, just not on his timeframe. Hopefully lesson learned. Pay attention when the teacher tells you to listen.
Anonymous
10/12/2019 06:52
Subject: “Ask 3 before me”
Anonymous wrote:'NP here. Exactly— he had a real question & felt he couldn’t ask the teacher for help. My kid has a teacher who does this, and I think it’s lazy teaching at some point. Sure, there are things kids could legitimately ask a peer, but kids shouldn’t be relying on peers to teach them how to do the schoolwork. That is ridiculous. Also, my kid has gotten frustrated when the teacher won’t answer a question that clearly none of the kids can answer. It’s the teacher’s job to address kids’ legitimate questions."
+1000 percent
Totally agree--teacher sets up these rule for themself not the children.
Anonymous
10/12/2019 06:50
Subject: Re:“Ask 3 before me”
Teacher sounds bad.
Anonymous
10/12/2019 06:42
Subject: “Ask 3 before me”
Op as a teacher, this is what usually happens in these cases:
Teacher: hands out assignment with explicit verbal instructions
Kids: start moving, talking, don’t listen
Teacher: I will repeat this one time and you need to listen
Kids: don’t listen
Teacher: ok go to your groups
Kid: WHAT ARE WE DOING
Teacher: I told you twice, now you have to figure it out.
Teacher: hands out assignment with explicit verbal instructions
Kids: start moving, talking, don’t listen
Teacher: I will repeat this one time and you need to listen
Kids: don’t listen
Teacher: ok go to your groups
Kid: WHAT ARE WE DOING
Teacher: I told you twice, now you have to figure it out.
Anonymous
10/12/2019 04:23
Subject: Re:“Ask 3 before me”
We really have no idea what happened. I’m guessing it’s a variation of what the child says. I don’t consider first graders accurate reporters, esp when explaining why a grade was bad.
Anonymous
10/11/2019 21:58
Subject: “Ask 3 before me”
Wait until your kid gets to MS and teachers start limiting how many questions each kid can ask to stop the students who ask questions just to stall or make others laugh.