Anonymous wrote:What has changed? Teachers used to have a few meetings every once in a while. Now I have IEP, 504, SST, IDP and retention meetings during my planning. We also have data meetings and meetings to prepay for other meetings. I also have to spend my planning times to enter all of the data into an antiquated data tracking system as well as send home progress reports every two weeks for my students who are below grade level (80% of our students fit this category). I also spend my planning time attending meetings with parents who make excuses for their child’s bad behavior insisting that little Larla doesn’t like to _____ (go to school, do her homework, go to bed, do schoolwork, etc). I also have my own IDP meeting, my pre and post observation conferences as well as write my SLO (6+ hours) and find artifacts that show I am meeting all of my professional responsibilities. Yeah, so grading comes now after my kids are in bed. I’ll log onto our online grading portal and it will either freeze or not save and hours of work will be wasted. I’m pretty sure my teachers didn’t have to do any of this BS.

Anonymous wrote:What has changed? Teachers used to have a few meetings every once in a while. Now I have IEP, 504, SST, IDP and retention meetings during my planning. We also have data meetings and meetings to prepay for other meetings. I also have to spend my planning times to enter all of the data into an antiquated data tracking system as well as send home progress reports every two weeks for my students who are below grade level (80% of our students fit this category). I also spend my planning time attending meetings with parents who make excuses for their child’s bad behavior insisting that little Larla doesn’t like to _____ (go to school, do her homework, go to bed, do schoolwork, etc). I also have my own IDP meeting, my pre and post observation conferences as well as write my SLO (6+ hours) and find artifacts that show I am meeting all of my professional responsibilities. Yeah, so grading comes now after my kids are in bed. I’ll log onto our online grading portal and it will either freeze or not save and hours of work will be wasted. I’m pretty sure my teachers didn’t have to do any of this BS.

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Anonymous wrote:What has changed? Teachers used to have a few meetings every once in a while. Now I have IEP, 504, SST, IDP and retention meetings during my planning. We also have data meetings and meetings to prepay for other meetings. I also have to spend my planning times to enter all of the data into an antiquated data tracking system as well as send home progress reports every two weeks for my students who are below grade level (80% of our students fit this category). I also spend my planning time attending meetings with parents who make excuses for their child’s bad behavior insisting that little Larla doesn’t like to _____ (go to school, do her homework, go to bed, do schoolwork, etc). I also have my own IDP meeting, my pre and post observation conferences as well as write my SLO (6+ hours) and find artifacts that show I am meeting all of my professional responsibilities. Yeah, so grading comes now after my kids are in bed. I’ll log onto our online grading portal and it will either freeze or not save and hours of work will be wasted. I’m pretty sure my teachers didn’t have to do any of this BS.

My mother was a middle school teacher, and she kept a grade book by hand and spent hours grading at home. Everything my kid brings in is graded for completion. Teachers spend no time looking at homework.

My sons were at private school for several years and their teachers spent a few hours every day grading at home. One teacher was an early bird and woke up at 4:30am to grade with her coffee, another did it in the evenings. Of course, they had zero IEPs, etc to deal with so it was much, much easier than what public school teachers have to manage (I am very sympathetic of them!!) But the pay is significantly less as well.

What I liked is that they read student work carefully. Everything was commented on or corrected. Grammar, spelling, comments like “wonderful sentence!” Or “good point!” And then at the end a several sentences with feedback.

All work, both HW and classwork, was graded and calculated toward their report cards. Report cards had meaning, and it gave parents a good snapshot as to what their child was struggling or succeeding with. It was quite honest!! Not for those who just want a pat on the back.

I did see students trying really hard. They did their best work, which is one thing I see missing at my son’s pubic school. Because their work isn’t looked at, they do it quickly and messily.

Public schools should pay teachers an extra hour to grade work, and only grade work. But alas, I don’t see that happening.

Teachers shouldn't have to spend a few hours every day doing required work at home. Something is wrong with the system.

Most teachers expect to spend time outside of school grading papers, reading essays, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Depends on the goal of the assignment. Teachers often want to give wiggle room for formative assignments when students are new to concepts. The idea is to learn something through the assignment, not to be perfect out of the gate. Also, with 120-150 students and class work and homework every day, teachers have to be picky about what they grade or they’d be under a mountain of paperwork.

+1. I'm a teacher and there is zero time during the school day to grade. If an assignment is just a building block I glance over it, pick out one or two parts I know I'll check on every one and give basically everyone a couple completion points. Teachers have to pick where they use their time and energy.

I appreciate your honesty and I was guessing this was the problem. I wish middle school teachers cared more, but I know they’re busy. Kids in MS are still young and still need teachers to “know” them and to care about the work they’re producing. What would give you more time in the day to read/comment/mark papers? An “off” period where you can grade? A longer work day? Grading school work at home? I just don’t know what’s changed from 20-30 years ago to now.

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Anonymous wrote:What has changed? Teachers used to have a few meetings every once in a while. Now I have IEP, 504, SST, IDP and retention meetings during my planning. We also have data meetings and meetings to prepay for other meetings. I also have to spend my planning times to enter all of the data into an antiquated data tracking system as well as send home progress reports every two weeks for my students who are below grade level (80% of our students fit this category). I also spend my planning time attending meetings with parents who make excuses for their child’s bad behavior insisting that little Larla doesn’t like to _____ (go to school, do her homework, go to bed, do schoolwork, etc). I also have my own IDP meeting, my pre and post observation conferences as well as write my SLO (6+ hours) and find artifacts that show I am meeting all of my professional responsibilities. Yeah, so grading comes now after my kids are in bed. I’ll log onto our online grading portal and it will either freeze or not save and hours of work will be wasted. I’m pretty sure my teachers didn’t have to do any of this BS.

My mother was a middle school teacher, and she kept a grade book by hand and spent hours grading at home. Everything my kid brings in is graded for completion. Teachers spend no time looking at homework.

My sons were at private school for several years and their teachers spent a few hours every day grading at home. One teacher was an early bird and woke up at 4:30am to grade with her coffee, another did it in the evenings. Of course, they had zero IEPs, etc to deal with so it was much, much easier than what public school teachers have to manage (I am very sympathetic of them!!) But the pay is significantly less as well.

What I liked is that they read student work carefully. Everything was commented on or corrected. Grammar, spelling, comments like “wonderful sentence!” Or “good point!” And then at the end a several sentences with feedback.

All work, both HW and classwork, was graded and calculated toward their report cards. Report cards had meaning, and it gave parents a good snapshot as to what their child was struggling or succeeding with. It was quite honest!! Not for those who just want a pat on the back.

I did see students trying really hard. They did their best work, which is one thing I see missing at my son’s pubic school. Because their work isn’t looked at, they do it quickly and messily.

Public schools should pay teachers an extra hour to grade work, and only grade work. But alas, I don’t see that happening.

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Anonymous wrote:What has changed? Teachers used to have a few meetings every once in a while. Now I have IEP, 504, SST, IDP and retention meetings during my planning. We also have data meetings and meetings to prepay for other meetings. I also have to spend my planning times to enter all of the data into an antiquated data tracking system as well as send home progress reports every two weeks for my students who are below grade level (80% of our students fit this category). I also spend my planning time attending meetings with parents who make excuses for their child’s bad behavior insisting that little Larla doesn’t like to _____ (go to school, do her homework, go to bed, do schoolwork, etc). I also have my own IDP meeting, my pre and post observation conferences as well as write my SLO (6+ hours) and find artifacts that show I am meeting all of my professional responsibilities. Yeah, so grading comes now after my kids are in bed. I’ll log onto our online grading portal and it will either freeze or not save and hours of work will be wasted. I’m pretty sure my teachers didn’t have to do any of this BS.

My mother was a middle school teacher, and she kept a grade book by hand and spent hours grading at home. Everything my kid brings in is graded for completion. Teachers spend no time looking at homework.

My sons were at private school for several years and their teachers spent a few hours every day grading at home. One teacher was an early bird and woke up at 4:30am to grade with her coffee, another did it in the evenings. Of course, they had zero IEPs, etc to deal with so it was much, much easier than what public school teachers have to manage (I am very sympathetic of them!!) But the pay is significantly less as well.

What I liked is that they read student work carefully. Everything was commented on or corrected. Grammar, spelling, comments like “wonderful sentence!” Or “good point!” And then at the end a several sentences with feedback.

All work, both HW and classwork, was graded and calculated toward their report cards. Report cards had meaning, and it gave parents a good snapshot as to what their child was struggling or succeeding with. It was quite honest!! Not for those who just want a pat on the back.

I did see students trying really hard. They did their best work, which is one thing I see missing at my son’s pubic school. Because their work isn’t looked at, they do it quickly and messily.

Public schools should pay teachers an extra hour to grade work, and only grade work. But alas, I don’t see that happening.

Teachers shouldn't have to spend a few hours every day doing required work at home. Something is wrong with the system.

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Anonymous wrote:What has changed? Teachers used to have a few meetings every once in a while. Now I have IEP, 504, SST, IDP and retention meetings during my planning. We also have data meetings and meetings to prepay for other meetings. I also have to spend my planning times to enter all of the data into an antiquated data tracking system as well as send home progress reports every two weeks for my students who are below grade level (80% of our students fit this category). I also spend my planning time attending meetings with parents who make excuses for their child’s bad behavior insisting that little Larla doesn’t like to _____ (go to school, do her homework, go to bed, do schoolwork, etc). I also have my own IDP meeting, my pre and post observation conferences as well as write my SLO (6+ hours) and find artifacts that show I am meeting all of my professional responsibilities. Yeah, so grading comes now after my kids are in bed. I’ll log onto our online grading portal and it will either freeze or not save and hours of work will be wasted. I’m pretty sure my teachers didn’t have to do any of this BS.

My mother was a middle school teacher, and she kept a grade book by hand and spent hours grading at home. Everything my kid brings in is graded for completion. Teachers spend no time looking at homework.

My sons were at private school for several years and their teachers spent a few hours every day grading at home. One teacher was an early bird and woke up at 4:30am to grade with her coffee, another did it in the evenings. Of course, they had zero IEPs, etc to deal with so it was much, much easier than what public school teachers have to manage (I am very sympathetic of them!!) But the pay is significantly less as well.

What I liked is that they read student work carefully. Everything was commented on or corrected. Grammar, spelling, comments like “wonderful sentence!” Or “good point!” And then at the end a several sentences with feedback.

All work, both HW and classwork, was graded and calculated toward their report cards. Report cards had meaning, and it gave parents a good snapshot as to what their child was struggling or succeeding with. It was quite honest!! Not for those who just want a pat on the back.

I did see students trying really hard. They did their best work, which is one thing I see missing at my son’s pubic school. Because their work isn’t looked at, they do it quickly and messily.

Public schools should pay teachers an extra hour to grade work, and only grade work. But alas, I don’t see that happening.

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Anonymous wrote:What has changed? Teachers used to have a few meetings every once in a while. Now I have IEP, 504, SST, IDP and retention meetings during my planning. We also have data meetings and meetings to prepay for other meetings. I also have to spend my planning times to enter all of the data into an antiquated data tracking system as well as send home progress reports every two weeks for my students who are below grade level (80% of our students fit this category). I also spend my planning time attending meetings with parents who make excuses for their child’s bad behavior insisting that little Larla doesn’t like to _____ (go to school, do her homework, go to bed, do schoolwork, etc). I also have my own IDP meeting, my pre and post observation conferences as well as write my SLO (6+ hours) and find artifacts that show I am meeting all of my professional responsibilities. Yeah, so grading comes now after my kids are in bed. I’ll log onto our online grading portal and it will either freeze or not save and hours of work will be wasted. I’m pretty sure my teachers didn’t have to do any of this BS.

My mother was a middle school teacher, and she kept a grade book by hand and spent hours grading at home. Everything my kid brings in is graded for completion. Teachers spend no time looking at homework.

Anonymous wrote:What has changed? Teachers used to have a few meetings every once in a while. Now I have IEP, 504, SST, IDP and retention meetings during my planning. We also have data meetings and meetings to prepay for other meetings. I also have to spend my planning times to enter all of the data into an antiquated data tracking system as well as send home progress reports every two weeks for my students who are below grade level (80% of our students fit this category). I also spend my planning time attending meetings with parents who make excuses for their child’s bad behavior insisting that little Larla doesn’t like to _____ (go to school, do her homework, go to bed, do schoolwork, etc). I also have my own IDP meeting, my pre and post observation conferences as well as write my SLO (6+ hours) and find artifacts that show I am meeting all of my professional responsibilities. Yeah, so grading comes now after my kids are in bed. I’ll log onto our online grading portal and it will either freeze or not save and hours of work will be wasted. I’m pretty sure my teachers didn’t have to do any of this BS.

Anonymous wrote:Too many students? No more than when I was in school.