Anonymous
Post 10/02/2019 08:49     Subject: Re:Was it true? Catholic doctors.
Anonymous wrote:Ask this in the expecting forum. I’ve seen a few references to this being true about Georgetown Hospital.


It is not true.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2019 08:47     Subject: Was it true? Catholic doctors.
No, it is absolutely not true.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2019 08:46     Subject: Was it true? Catholic doctors.
It is not so much whether or not the doctor is Catholic, but more on if the hospital is Catholic.
Catholic hospitals have bishops deciding on policy, not doctors, so this can be a problem if you have a miscarriage, ectopic pregnancy, abortion, want sterilization at same time as C-section, or even in other cases involving intensive care

I would avoid a Catholic hospital if you can
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2019 22:56     Subject: Was it true? Catholic doctors.
I had a miscarriage while seeing doctors at Georgetown and they gave me the option of letting it play out naturally or having a D&C.
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2019 22:27     Subject: Was it true? Catholic doctors.
Anonymous wrote:
At Georgetown, I understood very clearly that some doctors saw themselves as my doctor, while others viewed themselves as the baby's doctor. A situation arose during my three-day induction, when I decided to ride out the time of the doctor on duty to get the care I needed.

After delivery, a nurse did come to me to ask about Obama. I'm black, maybe that's why?!!! He was newly-elected, so maybe she was doing this to everyone? She was quite young and seemed sweet. Never asked about the birth or the baby. She pulled my blanket straight then launched into a diatribe about how sad it was that Obama was going to kill all of the babies. I held my firstborn in my arms and remained silent until she wandered out.

I used one of those feedback cards to state my discomfort and note how inappropriate I thought it was for her to talk about such things as a representative of the hospital.

They also had very strange policies about cord blood donations. It had something to do with stem cells.



I had no issues with cord blood there. It is a completely separate source of stem cells than those from aborted fetuses. When expected my younger DD, we were encouraged to bank hers due to her rather unusual mixed ancestry.
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2019 22:12     Subject: Was it true? Catholic doctors.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just last week, something similar happened in a small town in Washington state where the only hospital was Catholic.

https://rewire.news/article/2019/09/25/miscarriage-catholic-hospital/

And more info here in a Forbes article about how widespread this is.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/judystone/2016/05/07/health-care-denied-at-550-hospitals-because-of-catholic-doctrine/#25d6a0c5ad9d


Just to be fair, it looks like the people enacting these laws were hospital administrators and nurses. The people seen in the ED were “providers,” and the only MD mentioned was essentially an admin as well. From the article, the physicians involved in the actual
patient care were the ones who advocated for and saved these women.


This. Don’t conflate doctors with administrators. Catholic doctors are actively fighting these policies at their specific institutions.
Catholic doctors invented oral contraceptives and are continuing to look for contraception that doesn’t violate the church’s policies. Catholic doctors are on call 24/7 in hospital ethics committees with decisions made within minutes. Catholic doctors are caring for patients anyway and risking getting fired. Catholic doctors are getting patients transferred out of these hospitals. In every case posted here, the doctors are taking care of patients.


Still though, if a choice of hospitals is available, wouldn’t you choose the one which doesn’t have policies and administrators and nurses who are more concerned with church doctrine than patient care? That’s all OP’s mom was saying. And if you have a choice, you’re lucky - in a lot of areas of this country you don’t have a number of hospitals to pick from.
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2019 18:54     Subject: Was it true? Catholic doctors.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just last week, something similar happened in a small town in Washington state where the only hospital was Catholic.

https://rewire.news/article/2019/09/25/miscarriage-catholic-hospital/

And more info here in a Forbes article about how widespread this is.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/judystone/2016/05/07/health-care-denied-at-550-hospitals-because-of-catholic-doctrine/#25d6a0c5ad9d


Just to be fair, it looks like the people enacting these laws were hospital administrators and nurses. The people seen in the ED were “providers,” and the only MD mentioned was essentially an admin as well. From the article, the physicians involved in the actual
patient care were the ones who advocated for and saved these women.


This. Don’t conflate doctors with administrators. Catholic doctors are actively fighting these policies at their specific institutions.
Catholic doctors invented oral contraceptives and are continuing to look for contraception that doesn’t violate the church’s policies. Catholic doctors are on call 24/7 in hospital ethics committees with decisions made within minutes. Catholic doctors are caring for patients anyway and risking getting fired. Catholic doctors are getting patients transferred out of these hospitals. In every case posted here, the doctors are taking care of patients.
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2019 18:01     Subject: Was it true? Catholic doctors.
Anonymous wrote:Five women suffered prolonged miscarriages, severe infections and emotional trauma at Mercy Health Partners when staff neglected patients’ health to uphold religious directives against inducing delivery, report reveals

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/18/michigan-catholic-hospital-women-miscarriage-abortion-mercy-health-partners


Further details on one of these cases
https://www.thecut.com/2016/09/a-catholic-hospital-refused-to-treat-a-womans-miscarriage.html
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2019 18:00     Subject: Was it true? Catholic doctors.
As Catholic-owned hospitals merge with or take over other facilities, they impose restrictions on reproductive health services, including abortion and contraceptive services. Our interviews with US obstetrician–gynecologists working in Catholic-owned hospitals revealed that they are also restricted in managing miscarriages.

Catholic-owned hospital ethics committees denied approval of uterine evacuation while fetal heart tones were still present, forcing physicians to delay care or transport miscarrying patients to non–Catholic-owned facilities. Some physicians intentionally violated protocol because they felt patient safety was compromised.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2636458/
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2019 17:58     Subject: Was it true? Catholic doctors.
I Went to a Catholic Hospital During My Miscarriage—And It Nearly Killed Me

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/nekpw7/i-went-to-a-catholic-hospital-during-my-miscarriageand-it-nearly-killed-me
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2019 17:57     Subject: Was it true? Catholic doctors.
Five women suffered prolonged miscarriages, severe infections and emotional trauma at Mercy Health Partners when staff neglected patients’ health to uphold religious directives against inducing delivery, report reveals

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/18/michigan-catholic-hospital-women-miscarriage-abortion-mercy-health-partners
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2019 17:56     Subject: Was it true? Catholic doctors.
A Miscarrying Woman Nearly Died After a Catholic Hospital Sent Her Home Three Times
https://rewire.news/article/2019/09/25/miscarriage-catholic-hospital/
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2019 17:54     Subject: Was it true? Catholic doctors.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Common belief by non-Catholics, but I’m Catholic and can say it’s not a universal practice by Catholic doctors. Catholic hospitals may have specific policies regarding abortion, but that could happen with a non-Catholic doctor at that same institution. And there are ethical boards that discuss scenarios where certain procedures not normally allowed by Catholic teaching might be accommodated. I had a quality of life procedure at a Catholic hospital although it ended my fertility. No drama involved.


Sorry, only extreme positions allowed here.



Anonymous
Post 10/01/2019 17:51     Subject: Was it true? Catholic doctors.

At Georgetown, I understood very clearly that some doctors saw themselves as my doctor, while others viewed themselves as the baby's doctor. A situation arose during my three-day induction, when I decided to ride out the time of the doctor on duty to get the care I needed.

After delivery, a nurse did come to me to ask about Obama. I'm black, maybe that's why?!!! He was newly-elected, so maybe she was doing this to everyone? She was quite young and seemed sweet. Never asked about the birth or the baby. She pulled my blanket straight then launched into a diatribe about how sad it was that Obama was going to kill all of the babies. I held my firstborn in my arms and remained silent until she wandered out.

I used one of those feedback cards to state my discomfort and note how inappropriate I thought it was for her to talk about such things as a representative of the hospital.

They also had very strange policies about cord blood donations. It had something to do with stem cells.

Anonymous
Post 10/01/2019 17:35     Subject: Was it true? Catholic doctors.
My mother told me this as well, it's best to go to a hospital where your wishes will be followed, not the wishes of a Catholic believing hospital.