Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Depends on whether I get Canada's outcomes measures with that. Or Germany's, or New Zealand's.
This is an excellent point, one ignored by anybody advocating for any of this. Let's take Japan, as an example. They have health care for all. They also have a system where if you have cancer with a low percentage of success in curing, you get a kiss on the forehead and you go home to die. Dental care is another basket of insanity over there. And, yes, I know. I have lived there and work with Japanese companies all the time.
Of course, our system would never work that way. Only the best of palliative care, regardless of condition! That won't work, and is unsustainable. You want BASIC health care for all, that could only work if it is limited. Want something better, get yourself into a position to have health care provided as part of your compensation. Its not that hard, despite what everybody wants to say about how horrible america is, particularly now with millions of jobs unfilled, all of which provide health insurance, because people won't show up sober for more than a few days in a row.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To me, this is a huge thing that will deeply affect my family. We currently have great health insurance and pretty much immediate access to any specialist we need. Deductibles are minimal.
Most of the Democratic candidates' plans will mean worse healthcare access for us, and I assume many folks. I find this really frustrating! How is this considered a winning issue. I'm not going to vote against my own self-interest.
Vote for your and your family interest first. If you are a democrat and really care about paying for someone's healthcare, just purchase a plan for a neighbor and pay for it.
Do you understand that that is literally not possible in our country?
Anonymous wrote:To me, this is a huge thing that will deeply affect my family. We currently have great health insurance and pretty much immediate access to any specialist we need. Deductibles are minimal.
Most of the Democratic candidates' plans will mean worse healthcare access for us, and I assume many folks. I find this really frustrating! How is this considered a winning issue. I'm not going to vote against my own self-interest.
Anonymous wrote:What percentage of Americans currently have really great employee sponsored health care?
Anonymous wrote:We also have great healthcare. But I’ve also been in the position of having none, and so I know what that’s like.
It’s an ethics question. You have to decide what your values are. Are you willing to put aside your own interests for the greater common good?
Most people in this country are not. And so here we are.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To me, this is a huge thing that will deeply affect my family. We currently have great health insurance and pretty much immediate access to any specialist we need. Deductibles are minimal.
Most of the Democratic candidates' plans will mean worse healthcare access for us, and I assume many folks. I find this really frustrating! How is this considered a winning issue. I'm not going to vote against my own self-interest.
Vote for your and your family interest first. If you are a democrat and really care about paying for someone's healthcare, just purchase a plan for a neighbor and pay for it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To me, this is a huge thing that will deeply affect my family. We currently have great health insurance and pretty much immediate access to any specialist we need. Deductibles are minimal.
Most of the Democratic candidates' plans will mean worse healthcare access for us, and I assume many folks. I find this really frustrating! How is this considered a winning issue. I'm not going to vote against my own self-interest.
What happens to your coverage if you lose your job?
Anonymous wrote:To me, this is a huge thing that will deeply affect my family. We currently have great health insurance and pretty much immediate access to any specialist we need. Deductibles are minimal.
Most of the Democratic candidates' plans will mean worse healthcare access for us, and I assume many folks. I find this really frustrating! How is this considered a winning issue. I'm not going to vote against my own self-interest.
Anonymous wrote:What percentage of Americans currently have really great employee sponsored health care?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To me, this is a huge thing that will deeply affect my family. We currently have great health insurance and pretty much immediate access to any specialist we need. Deductibles are minimal.
Most of the Democratic candidates' plans will mean worse healthcare access for us, and I assume many folks. I find this really frustrating! How is this considered a winning issue. I'm not going to vote against my own self-interest.
What happens to your coverage if you lose your job?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The easiest way to explain most of the democrats plans, you can pay $1000/m for a private plan like the PP oy ui canpay $3000 more per year in taxes, but save the $1,000/mo.
So yes, your taxes go up, but you net out ahead.[b]
That is what they will tell you.
But, that remains to be revealed. Free college, free daycare, eliminating student debt, and all the other "freebies" being promoted by the Democrats would totally wipe out any savings. And, cost a ton more in taxes.
Also, if you "net out ahead" but have health care that is not great it is not "net out ahead" in my book.
Anonymous wrote:The easiest way to explain most of the democrats plans, you can pay $1000/m for a private plan like the PP oy ui canpay $3000 more per year in taxes, but save the $1,000/mo.
So yes, your taxes go up, but you net out ahead.[b]