Anonymous wrote:Curious thx

Those places can be breeding grounds for mental illness

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone ever tried to take their kid to a remote cabin somewhere for a few months - where they are completely away from drugs/alcohol and negative influences. No internet, no cell phones - just fresh air, lots of water and healthy activities (like hiking, swimming, reading, cooking).

The first few weeks might be awful for them but after awhile wouldn't they start to adjust physically and mentally to being substance free?

And then what?

Get through the initial crisis. Establish some healthier outlets - exercising (running, rock climbing, swimming, kayaking).

And then assess where you need to go from there. Counseling? 12 step meetings? Moving to another town/enrolling in a different school? Whatever you think you need to do.

Do you have any relatives that farm? Drop teen off at 7:00 am to work and pick teen up at 5:00 pm. Outside work is very therapeutic. Farmers
wife brings out large lunch in middle of the day. Drive kid out to Frederick County farm and pick him up at end of day. There is a shortage of farm hands
and outside work if very therapeutic. Believe me, kid will be too tired to party. The work is 6 days a week.

My boyfriend worked summers in high school and college for a farmer baling hay, cleaning out silos, and painting the exterior bolts on silos.

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone ever tried to take their kid to a remote cabin somewhere for a few months - where they are completely away from drugs/alcohol and negative influences. No internet, no cell phones - just fresh air, lots of water and healthy activities (like hiking, swimming, reading, cooking).

The first few weeks might be awful for them but after awhile wouldn't they start to adjust physically and mentally to being substance free?

And then what?

Get through the initial crisis. Establish some healthier outlets - exercising (running, rock climbing, swimming, kayaking).

And then assess where you need to go from there. Counseling? 12 step meetings? Moving to another town/enrolling in a different school? Whatever you think you need to do.

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone ever tried to take their kid to a remote cabin somewhere for a few months - where they are completely away from drugs/alcohol and negative influences. No internet, no cell phones - just fresh air, lots of water and healthy activities (like hiking, swimming, reading, cooking).

The first few weeks might be awful for them but after awhile wouldn't they start to adjust physically and mentally to being substance free?

And then what?

It helped my kid.

Has anyone ever tried to take their kid to a remote cabin somewhere for a few months - where they are completely away from drugs/alcohol and negative influences. No internet, no cell phones - just fresh air, lots of water and healthy activities (like hiking, swimming, reading, cooking).

The first few weeks might be awful for them but after awhile wouldn't they start to adjust physically and mentally to being substance free?

It sounds like the main concern up thread is exposing your teen
to harder drugs and cutting and bulumia at teen rehabs.

Outpatient rehabs are out there. Kid lives in your home.
Kid is required to work full time or go to school/college
full time. Kid goes to outpatient rehab every night for
about 6-8 weeks. Kid sleeps in your house and is around
on the weekends.

Ashley has outpatient in the DMV area

https://www.ashleytreatment.org/about/

Do you have any friends of the family in longterm recovery?

If so I'd see if teen wants to go with family friend to some
local AA meetings.

For teen girl I'd recommend womens AA meetings only.

There are also local outpatient recovery programs.
Teen works or goes to school during the day. In the
evening teen has 4-5 hours of meetings in the evenings.
I think the local outpatient recovery programs are pretty
effective as they are generally longer than inpatient and run for 6-8 weeks.

Do the treatment centers even release their recovery statistics?

Anonymous wrote:Yes, get on the phone to rehab programs and tell them you are "sending your teen" and see how eager they are to take him/her on without any motivation on the teen's part.

This does not sound like it’s from someone with personal experience. I did not find it difficult to find programs. And my kid was definitely not motivated.

How old is your teen and male or female?

If female can you try some female only AA groups?

If male, AA groups are considered "safer" than NA groups.
Drug dealers generally hang in the parking lots of NA groups.

Teen is going to get a healthy dose of AA in the send away
rehab centers and encouraged to stay in AA when they
get out.

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Anonymous wrote:Does your child want to go? Generally success rate is
better for those who want to go.

This. It totally depends on whether you are "sending" the child or the child is ready.

I don’t think this is an evidence-based opinion.

Correct, not an evidence based opinion but after you've seen a family member go to 5 rehabs and start using after they get out you kind of get the message.

In addiction treatment parlance generally the addict has to want treatment for it to work....be it local AA, local outpatient or send away treatment
centers. Heck this works for those being treated for diabetes and heart disease. if they don't change their diets and take their meds sthan the
recommended treatments won't work.

Anonymous wrote:Yes, get on the phone to rehab programs and tell them you are "sending your teen" and see how eager they are to take him/her on without any motivation on the teen's part.

These programs have statistics that they like to keep in the positive. No incentive to add to their failure rate with your kid.

Yes, get on the phone to rehab programs and tell them you are "sending your teen" and see how eager they are to take him/her on without any motivation on the teen's part.