Anonymous
10/30/2019 21:50
Subject: Re:Roberto Clemente MS Acceptance MAP scores
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hi,
My child is going to write the exam this year and is currrently in CES, in elementary. He wants to goto this school based on the curriculam offered. My question is, if we apply for parkland magnet which is lottery based, as another option, will it affect him getting into this since we have another choice? Please advise. Also, is there a chance when his scores are in 230s in the MAP tests, but has been A student and good result in PARCC too.
No. 230s is way too low. How did your child even get into a CES?
NP, mine got into a CES with scores even lower than that. Could be it balanced out with a high Cogat. It’s pointless comparing scores unless you’re comparing schools too.
Totally agree. MAP scores do not matter that much. They care more about raw abilities, instead of knowledge.
They care about cohorts above everything else. OP's kid, it seems, goes to a lower performing cluster. My child with 99% Cogats and higher MAPs than OP's child wasn't admitted to a CES. So much for 'raw abilities'.
Before the brilliant cohort criteria, most of the slots went to children whose wealthy parents could enroll them in extracurricular prep classes. Now it's more common for the naturally gifted to end up in a magnet.
How do you define naturally gifted?
Able to score well on the tests without requiring thousands of dollars in test prep.
How do you tell who have been prepped using current selection process?
By race.
Right, if the child is Asian they are automatically there only because they prepped and are not "naturally" gifted. If they are black or Latino it's because the new admissions criteria favored them. Minorities just can't win!
Anonymous
10/30/2019 12:10
Subject: Re:Roberto Clemente MS Acceptance MAP scores
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seriously? I read all these MAP scores and think: 99% of the magnet test, 278 on MAP-M, 242 on MAP-R, Straight A's throughout 4th in 5th grade from a CES. Didn't even get waitlisted. None of these scores matter that much if you happen to be in a W-school district with cohorts.
I would have appealed if your child wanted to go. Those are excellent scores, even at a CES.
That MAP-R score is unimpressive.
Heard an excessively high MAP score is indicative of prepping and will inevitably work against the student. Score high but not ridiculously high.
How do you tell who is prepped but failed from not prepped but succeeded if they both scored “mediocre” high map scores? And why penalize those really advanced students who study and challenge themselves simply because they like it and score sky high on MAP?
Anonymous
10/29/2019 22:46
Subject: Re:Roberto Clemente MS Acceptance MAP scores
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seriously? I read all these MAP scores and think: 99% of the magnet test, 278 on MAP-M, 242 on MAP-R, Straight A's throughout 4th in 5th grade from a CES. Didn't even get waitlisted. None of these scores matter that much if you happen to be in a W-school district with cohorts.
I would have appealed if your child wanted to go. Those are excellent scores, even at a CES.
That MAP-R score is unimpressive.
Heard an excessively high MAP score is indicative of prepping and will inevitably work against the student. Score high but not ridiculously high.
Anonymous
10/29/2019 21:47
Subject: Re:Roberto Clemente MS Acceptance MAP scores
I remain boggled by the way you ladies manage to make the competitive moms at urbanbaby in the aughts look like Quakers.
Anonymous
10/29/2019 19:22
Subject: Re:Roberto Clemente MS Acceptance MAP scores
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seriously? I read all these MAP scores and think: 99% of the magnet test, 278 on MAP-M, 242 on MAP-R, Straight A's throughout 4th in 5th grade from a CES. Didn't even get waitlisted. None of these scores matter that much if you happen to be in a W-school district with cohorts.
I would have appealed if your child wanted to go. Those are excellent scores, even at a CES.
That MAP-R score is unimpressive.
Anonymous
10/29/2019 19:20
Subject: Re:Roberto Clemente MS Acceptance MAP scores
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hi,
My child is going to write the exam this year and is currrently in CES, in elementary. He wants to goto this school based on the curriculam offered. My question is, if we apply for parkland magnet which is lottery based, as another option, will it affect him getting into this since we have another choice? Please advise. Also, is there a chance when his scores are in 230s in the MAP tests, but has been A student and good result in PARCC too.
No. 230s is way too low. How did your child even get into a CES?
NP, mine got into a CES with scores even lower than that. Could be it balanced out with a high Cogat. It’s pointless comparing scores unless you’re comparing schools too.
Totally agree. MAP scores do not matter that much. They care more about raw abilities, instead of knowledge.
They care about cohorts above everything else. OP's kid, it seems, goes to a lower performing cluster. My child with 99% Cogats and higher MAPs than OP's child wasn't admitted to a CES. So much for 'raw abilities'.
Before the brilliant cohort criteria, most of the slots went to children whose wealthy parents could enroll them in extracurricular prep classes. Now it's more common for the naturally gifted to end up in a magnet.
How do you define naturally gifted?
Able to score well on the tests without requiring thousands of dollars in test prep.
NP: I’d say the intrinsically curious child who thinks outside the box. Not grade motivated. The child who is okay with being challenged enough that they might not get straight As for the first time.
Anonymous
10/29/2019 15:59
Subject: Re:Roberto Clemente MS Acceptance MAP scores
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hi,
My child is going to write the exam this year and is currrently in CES, in elementary. He wants to goto this school based on the curriculam offered. My question is, if we apply for parkland magnet which is lottery based, as another option, will it affect him getting into this since we have another choice? Please advise. Also, is there a chance when his scores are in 230s in the MAP tests, but has been A student and good result in PARCC too.
No. 230s is way too low. How did your child even get into a CES?
NP, mine got into a CES with scores even lower than that. Could be it balanced out with a high Cogat. It’s pointless comparing scores unless you’re comparing schools too.
Totally agree. MAP scores do not matter that much. They care more about raw abilities, instead of knowledge.
They care about cohorts above everything else. OP's kid, it seems, goes to a lower performing cluster. My child with 99% Cogats and higher MAPs than OP's child wasn't admitted to a CES. So much for 'raw abilities'.
Before the brilliant cohort criteria, most of the slots went to children whose wealthy parents could enroll them in extracurricular prep classes. Now it's more common for the naturally gifted to end up in a magnet.
How do you define naturally gifted?
Able to score well on the tests without requiring thousands of dollars in test prep.
How do you tell who have been prepped using current selection process?
Anonymous
10/29/2019 15:55
Subject: Re:Roberto Clemente MS Acceptance MAP scores
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hi,
My child is going to write the exam this year and is currrently in CES, in elementary. He wants to goto this school based on the curriculam offered. My question is, if we apply for parkland magnet which is lottery based, as another option, will it affect him getting into this since we have another choice? Please advise. Also, is there a chance when his scores are in 230s in the MAP tests, but has been A student and good result in PARCC too.
No. 230s is way too low. How did your child even get into a CES?
NP, mine got into a CES with scores even lower than that. Could be it balanced out with a high Cogat. It’s pointless comparing scores unless you’re comparing schools too.
Totally agree. MAP scores do not matter that much. They care more about raw abilities, instead of knowledge.
They care about cohorts above everything else. OP's kid, it seems, goes to a lower performing cluster. My child with 99% Cogats and higher MAPs than OP's child wasn't admitted to a CES. So much for 'raw abilities'.
Before the brilliant cohort criteria, most of the slots went to children whose wealthy parents could enroll them in extracurricular prep classes. Now it's more common for the naturally gifted to end up in a magnet.
How do you define naturally gifted?
Able to score well on the tests without requiring thousands of dollars in test prep.
Anonymous
10/29/2019 15:40
Subject: Re:Roberto Clemente MS Acceptance MAP scores
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hi,
My child is going to write the exam this year and is currrently in CES, in elementary. He wants to goto this school based on the curriculam offered. My question is, if we apply for parkland magnet which is lottery based, as another option, will it affect him getting into this since we have another choice? Please advise. Also, is there a chance when his scores are in 230s in the MAP tests, but has been A student and good result in PARCC too.
No. 230s is way too low. How did your child even get into a CES?
NP, mine got into a CES with scores even lower than that. Could be it balanced out with a high Cogat. It’s pointless comparing scores unless you’re comparing schools too.
Totally agree. MAP scores do not matter that much. They care more about raw abilities, instead of knowledge.
They care about cohorts above everything else. OP's kid, it seems, goes to a lower performing cluster. My child with 99% Cogats and higher MAPs than OP's child wasn't admitted to a CES. So much for 'raw abilities'.
Before the brilliant cohort criteria, most of the slots went to children whose wealthy parents could enroll them in extracurricular prep classes. Now it's more common for the naturally gifted to end up in a magnet.
How do you define naturally gifted?