Anonymous wrote:Different person here.
I disagree with your assessment that kick and run players dont hate futsal. They might like to play but they dont like the technical aspect required to play Futsal. Very few "kick and run" players have the patience or determination to hone their skill to the point they enjoy and thrive in Futsal. Call them what you will, kick and run or just call them kids. No need to peg them as "kick and run".
I know some of the most talented outdoor players that cant stand to play futsal. its just not something they cant do as well as play outdoor. As a result they opt out and stay with outdoor. No knock against them but it is a much higher level of tight space quick decision one touch play that only grows through exposure to Futsal.

This is not quite true. Professional players have a much higher level (faster, more precise, quicker decisions over a large area) of play than futsal players can ever have. Futsal actually works against higher level play by having a heavier ball, fewer playmaking choices (e.g. smaller area, fewer players), and consistent play surface. If you want to grow technical skills, it’s both better and harder to do it with a real soccer ball in an outside setting.

FPYCparent wrote:For those of us inside/near the Beltway (NoVA), there is First Touch Futsal. DD's NCSL team (now U12) has played in this league for two years, after during Conqueror's in Herndon at U9.

https://www.ftfutbol.com/firsttouchfutsal

I can only suspect that DD and team will be playing in FTF again this winter. The coach has stated that this winter will be the team's last futsal season.

Some of the teams/standings from last FTF season here: https://www.ftfutbol.com/Default.aspx?tabid=2572709

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NCSL did start its own futsal thing in partnership with The St. James last winter. I don't know how it fared, beyond a few photos posted on Twitter.

Im curious.. Why will it be your last year playing futsal?

Different person here.
I disagree with your assessment that kick and run players dont hate futsal. They might like to play but they dont like the technical aspect required to play Futsal. Very few "kick and run" players have the patience or determination to hone their skill to the point they enjoy and thrive in Futsal. Call them what you will, kick and run or just call them kids. No need to peg them as "kick and run".
I know some of the most talented outdoor players that cant stand to play futsal. its just not something they cant do as well as play outdoor. As a result they opt out and stay with outdoor. No knock against them but it is a much higher level of tight space quick decision one touch play that only grows through exposure to Futsal.

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Anonymous wrote:People are talking bad but can’t deny that Puma Elite did in fact win state cup on every level for girls

But not with many if any outside kids.

Haters will hate

The person asking is not with FCV. Their kid will likely not make a top FCV futsal team. Not hate, just reality. FCV futsal is good if you are in FCV other than that it is mostly a money grab.

+1. Very few clubs participate in competitive futsal. Winning State Cup is nothing to brag about when nobody bothers with it.

Says kick and run parent.

No, really, past a certain age competitive futsal just isn't worth it. The gains made on the technical side of the ball become minimal and the tactical aspect of futsal offers little value to 11v11 soccer. By 15 play futsal or soccer.

Well put. But that’s not what you originally said (if you were previous poster). And most top players who are younger are playing. Kick and run players and parents hate it. And if you think the ability to think and play in tight spaces is something that matters less over time, stop watching MLS and watch better soccer.

Kick and run players don't hate futsal. There is also no such thing as a kick and run player, only a player who hasn't been shown differently.

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Anonymous wrote:People are talking bad but can’t deny that Puma Elite did in fact win state cup on every level for girls

But not with many if any outside kids.

Haters will hate

The person asking is not with FCV. Their kid will likely not make a top FCV futsal team. Not hate, just reality. FCV futsal is good if you are in FCV other than that it is mostly a money grab.

+1. Very few clubs participate in competitive futsal. Winning State Cup is nothing to brag about when nobody bothers with it.

Says kick and run parent.

No, really, past a certain age competitive futsal just isn't worth it. The gains made on the technical side of the ball become minimal and the tactical aspect of futsal offers little value to 11v11 soccer. By 15 play futsal or soccer.

Well put. But that’s not what you originally said (if you were previous poster). And most top players who are younger are playing. Kick and run players and parents hate it. And if you think the ability to think and play in tight spaces is something that matters less over time, stop watching MLS and watch better soccer.

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Anonymous wrote:People are talking bad but can’t deny that Puma Elite did in fact win state cup on every level for girls

But not with many if any outside kids.

Haters will hate

The person asking is not with FCV. Their kid will likely not make a top FCV futsal team. Not hate, just reality. FCV futsal is good if you are in FCV other than that it is mostly a money grab.

+1. Very few clubs participate in competitive futsal. Winning State Cup is nothing to brag about when nobody bothers with it.

Says kick and run parent.

No, really, past a certain age competitive futsal just isn't worth it. The gains made on the technical side of the ball become minimal and the tactical aspect of futsal offers little value to 11v11 soccer. By 15 play futsal or soccer.

Agree. Play futsal if you enjoy it. If you want to focus on soccer, you may actually benefit from cross-training in a completely different sport.

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Anonymous wrote:People are talking bad but can’t deny that Puma Elite did in fact win state cup on every level for girls

But not with many if any outside kids.

Haters will hate

The person asking is not with FCV. Their kid will likely not make a top FCV futsal team. Not hate, just reality. FCV futsal is good if you are in FCV other than that it is mostly a money grab.

+1. Very few clubs participate in competitive futsal. Winning State Cup is nothing to brag about when nobody bothers with it.

Says kick and run parent.

No, really, past a certain age competitive futsal just isn't worth it. The gains made on the technical side of the ball become minimal and the tactical aspect of futsal offers little value to 11v11 soccer. By 15 play futsal or soccer.

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Anonymous wrote:People are talking bad but can’t deny that Puma Elite did in fact win state cup on every level for girls

But not with many if any outside kids.

Haters will hate

The person asking is not with FCV. Their kid will likely not make a top FCV futsal team. Not hate, just reality. FCV futsal is good if you are in FCV other than that it is mostly a money grab.

+1. Very few clubs participate in competitive futsal. Winning State Cup is nothing to brag about when nobody bothers with it.

Says kick and run parent.

Keep in mind the intent of the OP. They have a typical kid looking for some futsal over the winter for some league games and training. Pump the breaks on State Cup and all. Unless you are really looking to be competitive in futsal then avoid FCV entirely. If you are just looking for some winter futsal to get some touches over the break then there are lots of options.

https://www.virginiafutsal.com/Default.aspx?tabid=2412641

In case the FCV parent needed further verification, the link says it all

Many of the top teams in Virginia dont play VA State Cup for Futsal. Its just not there yet as a program. I was curious if this FCV parent touting their great success was correct. I searched VA State Cup Futsal and on the page is a congratulations to the following teams at Northeast Regionals. They cite 7 teams that did well advancing to the Quarterfinals or beyond. One of the teams actually winning Regionals. Of the 7 teams one team was from FCV and 6 teams were from Alexandria. The team noted as winning Regionals was from Alexandria.
Interesting.
Seems winning at the State level does not equate to winning at the Regional level. Maybe the step up in competition is too much for FCV. Just a thought

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Anonymous wrote:People are talking bad but can’t deny that Puma Elite did in fact win state cup on every level for girls

But not with many if any outside kids.

Haters will hate

The person asking is not with FCV. Their kid will likely not make a top FCV futsal team. Not hate, just reality. FCV futsal is good if you are in FCV other than that it is mostly a money grab.

+1. Very few clubs participate in competitive futsal. Winning State Cup is nothing to brag about when nobody bothers with it.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People are talking bad but can’t deny that Puma Elite did in fact win state cup on every level for girls

But not with many if any outside kids.

Haters will hate

The person asking is not with FCV. Their kid will likely not make a top FCV futsal team. Not hate, just reality. FCV futsal is good if you are in FCV other than that it is mostly a money grab.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People are talking bad but can’t deny that Puma Elite did in fact win state cup on every level for girls

But not with many if any outside kids.

Haters will hate

Anonymous wrote:People are talking bad but can’t deny that Puma Elite did in fact win state cup on every level for girls

But not with many if any outside kids.