Anonymous
Post 09/25/2019 15:14     Subject: Re:Playing the ball while on the ground

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Don’t do it. Refs always call it and other team gets a free kick.

Get off the ground. You are more effective on your feet.


So if a kid falls down near the ball and the ref blows the whistle, why does the free kick go to the other team? What makes falling to the ground a dangerous play? Would the person standing trying to kick the ball creating the dangerous play and, therefore, the free kick should go to the kid on the ground? Thanks.


I am talking about instead of getting up/trying to get up--they stay there on the ground kicking with their legs. I don't see this in older age groups. Those kids don't like around on the ground. But, I still see it happening with my younger kid's U12 age group.
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2019 15:04     Subject: Re:Playing the ball while on the ground

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Don’t do it. Refs always call it and other team gets a free kick.

Get off the ground. You are more effective on your feet.


So if a kid falls down near the ball and the ref blows the whistle, why does the free kick go to the other team? What makes falling to the ground a dangerous play? Would the person standing trying to kick the ball creating the dangerous play and, therefore, the free kick should go to the kid on the ground? Thanks.


If you are laying on the ground and kick the ball when no one is around, there is no foul.


If we're gonna be technical here, playing in a dangerous manner isn't a foul, it's a violation.
Re-start is an indirect kick.


You are technically a dork.


Ah, you sound like the typical parent that claims to be an expert on soccer rules because their kid has played for years, and has never actually read the Laws.
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2019 12:02     Subject: Re:Playing the ball while on the ground

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Don’t do it. Refs always call it and other team gets a free kick.

Get off the ground. You are more effective on your feet.


So if a kid falls down near the ball and the ref blows the whistle, why does the free kick go to the other team? What makes falling to the ground a dangerous play? Would the person standing trying to kick the ball creating the dangerous play and, therefore, the free kick should go to the kid on the ground? Thanks.


PP already answered, but think of the obvious in that scenario, player with ball goes to ground around others. All of the sudden, it's a free kick to the player who is on the ground? or opposing players can't get to the ball because the player with the ball "falls" to the ground? Especially in or around the box? or anywhere for that matter.

Anonymous
Post 09/25/2019 11:53     Subject: Re:Playing the ball while on the ground

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Don’t do it. Refs always call it and other team gets a free kick.

Get off the ground. You are more effective on your feet.


So if a kid falls down near the ball and the ref blows the whistle, why does the free kick go to the other team? What makes falling to the ground a dangerous play? Would the person standing trying to kick the ball creating the dangerous play and, therefore, the free kick should go to the kid on the ground? Thanks.


If you are laying on the ground and kick the ball when no one is around, there is no foul.


If we're gonna be technical here, playing in a dangerous manner isn't a foul, it's a violation.
Re-start is an indirect kick.


You are technically a dork.
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2019 11:48     Subject: Re:Playing the ball while on the ground

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Don’t do it. Refs always call it and other team gets a free kick.

Get off the ground. You are more effective on your feet.


So if a kid falls down near the ball and the ref blows the whistle, why does the free kick go to the other team? What makes falling to the ground a dangerous play? Would the person standing trying to kick the ball creating the dangerous play and, therefore, the free kick should go to the kid on the ground? Thanks.


If you are laying on the ground and kick the ball when no one is around, there is no foul.


If we're gonna be technical here, playing in a dangerous manner isn't a foul, it's a violation.
Re-start is an indirect kick.
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2019 10:39     Subject: Re:Playing the ball while on the ground

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Don’t do it. Refs always call it and other team gets a free kick.

Get off the ground. You are more effective on your feet.


So if a kid falls down near the ball and the ref blows the whistle, why does the free kick go to the other team? What makes falling to the ground a dangerous play? Would the person standing trying to kick the ball creating the dangerous play and, therefore, the free kick should go to the kid on the ground? Thanks.


If you are laying on the ground and kick the ball when no one is around, there is no foul. If you fall on the ground near the ball and someone else can't play the ball because they might hurt you, it is dangerous play because you are putting yourself in danger. As kids turn into adults, the amount of danger you have put yourself in diminishes along with the likelihood that the referee will call dangerous play on you.

Another way to think about it is high kicks. If no one is around, no foul. If you kick near someones head 1) was it a controlled kick (no foul) or less so. Also, who is creating the danger? A foot near the head of a standing player is the kicker's foul. A foot at knee level near a head is the "kickee's" foul.

Soccer is a gentleman's game. Originally designed to be played without refs. Yeah, that didn't last long.....but remember that factoid when you are trying to understand what they are doing. Even today it is the guiding principles of the Laws.


That makes sense. But you see it all the time in the professional game where plays are close together in the box and people score from the ground. In the instance initially described, the player and the goalie were on the ground next to each other and the player kicked the ball into the net from a decent distance. Not in front of the goal.
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2019 09:05     Subject: Re:Playing the ball while on the ground

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Don’t do it. Refs always call it and other team gets a free kick.

Get off the ground. You are more effective on your feet.


So if a kid falls down near the ball and the ref blows the whistle, why does the free kick go to the other team? What makes falling to the ground a dangerous play? Would the person standing trying to kick the ball creating the dangerous play and, therefore, the free kick should go to the kid on the ground? Thanks.


If you are laying on the ground and kick the ball when no one is around, there is no foul. If you fall on the ground near the ball and someone else can't play the ball because they might hurt you, it is dangerous play because you are putting yourself in danger. As kids turn into adults, the amount of danger you have put yourself in diminishes along with the likelihood that the referee will call dangerous play on you.

Another way to think about it is high kicks. If no one is around, no foul. If you kick near someones head 1) was it a controlled kick (no foul) or less so. Also, who is creating the danger? A foot near the head of a standing player is the kicker's foul. A foot at knee level near a head is the "kickee's" foul.

Soccer is a gentleman's game. Originally designed to be played without refs. Yeah, that didn't last long.....but remember that factoid when you are trying to understand what they are doing. Even today it is the guiding principles of the Laws.
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2019 21:15     Subject: Re:Playing the ball while on the ground

Anonymous wrote:Don’t do it. Refs always call it and other team gets a free kick.

Get off the ground. You are more effective on your feet.


So if a kid falls down near the ball and the ref blows the whistle, why does the free kick go to the other team? What makes falling to the ground a dangerous play? Would the person standing trying to kick the ball creating the dangerous play and, therefore, the free kick should go to the kid on the ground? Thanks.