Anonymous wrote:Curious--do they divide out scores of long time African Americans and African first or second generation?

I don't think so.

Curious--do they divide out scores of long time African Americans and African first or second generation?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish they would exclude ESOL students from SOL’s. Maybe some of these low performing pyramids could start pull themselves out of the hole.
It’s a self perpetuating trend.
Scores suck. People move out
Scores suck more.
People avoid moving in.
Scores suck the most.
People from the lowest SES are all that’s left
Scores suck in perpetuity ...

Um, the number of white, UMC kids at Justice has been increasing in recent years. Sorry if that doesn’t fit your narrative.

So has the number of low SES kids and the have been increasing faster.

Let’s assume that’s the case.

The total enrollment has been increasing so it’s inaccurate and likely racist to suggest that “people” keep moving out and avoid moving in. At a minimum you need to clarify which people you’re referring to. Otherwise it clearly comes across as if other people are sub-human in your little world.

The white enrollment - the best proxy for middle and UMC families in FCPS - has been increasing over the past decade. The data is easy to find on the FCPS and VDOE web sites.

The one kernel of an assertion in the posts that is accurate is that the average test scores will remain below average for the county as long as the fastest growing population consists of ESOL and/or FARMS students. That does not change the fact that there is still a critical mass of higher-achieving kids, which includes some of the ESOL/FARMS students.

Attacks on schools in 2019 are typically are just slightly veiled attacks on immigrants, as illustrated by this article in today’s Post:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/immigration/immigrant-kids-fill-this-towns-schools-their-bus-driver-resents-the-system-that-brought-them-here/2019/09/22/861c0fb4-d321-11e9-9610-fb56c5522e1c_story.html%3foutputType=amp

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish they would exclude ESOL students from SOL’s. Maybe some of these low performing pyramids could start pull themselves out of the hole.
It’s a self perpetuating trend.
Scores suck. People move out
Scores suck more.
People avoid moving in.
Scores suck the most.
People from the lowest SES are all that’s left
Scores suck in perpetuity ...

Um, the number of white, UMC kids at Justice has been increasing in recent years. Sorry if that doesn’t fit your narrative.

DP--just looked at the data.
The number of white kids has increased. So, has the number of Hispanic kids. Black seems to be stable. The change? Fewer Asian kids. Increase in white kids is not as great as increase in Hispanic kids.
Slight decrease in FARMS.

It will be interesting to see current year demographics. I cannot find it.

They won’t post enrollment or demographic numbers until after they have 9/30 data, so probably by mid-October.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish they would exclude ESOL students from SOL’s. Maybe some of these low performing pyramids could start pull themselves out of the hole.
It’s a self perpetuating trend.
Scores suck. People move out
Scores suck more.
People avoid moving in.
Scores suck the most.
People from the lowest SES are all that’s left
Scores suck in perpetuity ...

Um, the number of white, UMC kids at Justice has been increasing in recent years. Sorry if that doesn’t fit your narrative.

DP--just looked at the data.
The number of white kids has increased. So, has the number of Hispanic kids. Black seems to be stable. The change? Fewer Asian kids. Increase in white kids is not as great as increase in Hispanic kids.
Slight decrease in FARMS.

It will be interesting to see current year demographics. I cannot find it.

Anonymous wrote:Troll thread by Republican still upser about getting rid of the Confederate name.

Except the people responsible for naming the school in the first place were all Democrats.

Anonymous wrote:link?

The data is readily available. Look at it next time before making sweeping, inaccurate statements.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish they would exclude ESOL students from SOL’s. Maybe some of these low performing pyramids could start pull themselves out of the hole.
It’s a self perpetuating trend.
Scores suck. People move out
Scores suck more.
People avoid moving in.
Scores suck the most.
People from the lowest SES are all that’s left
Scores suck in perpetuity ...

Um, the number of white, UMC kids at Justice has been increasing in recent years. Sorry if that doesn’t fit your narrative.

So has the number of low SES kids and the have been increasing faster.

link?

Anonymous wrote:I wish they would exclude ESOL students from SOL’s. Maybe some of these low performing pyramids could start pull themselves out of the hole.
It’s a self perpetuating trend.
Scores suck. People move out
Scores suck more.
People avoid moving in.
Scores suck the most.
People from the lowest SES are all that’s left
Scores suck in perpetuity ...

Um, the number of white, UMC kids at Justice has been increasing in recent years. Sorry if that doesn’t fit your narrative.

I wish they would exclude ESOL students from SOL’s. Maybe some of these low performing pyramids could start pull themselves out of the hole.
It’s a self perpetuating trend.
Scores suck. People move out
Scores suck more.
People avoid moving in.
Scores suck the most.
People from the lowest SES are all that’s left
Scores suck in perpetuity ...

[quote=Anonymous]How come Justice HS is so inferior to other FCPS area high schools? Test scores are appalling, material in IB classes isn’t always covered? Does anybody care?[/quote]

Okay, I'll bite. What is the reasoning behind your post and what do you hope to see in the responses? We've had two children happily and successfully move up through the pyramid. Test scores don't tell the whole story especially when it comes to growth over time. But finally, what did JHS administration tell you when you made an appointment to discuss your concerns?

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]How come Justice HS is so inferior to other FCPS area high schools? Test scores are appalling, material in IB classes isn’t always covered? Does anybody care?[/quote]

How exactly do you know what is or isn’t covered in an IB class? You said you’re a retired teacher who taught AP, so you’re not from Justice. [/quote]s


I did not post this comment^^. You obviously did not read my entire previous post. I worked on a committee in the late 1990s which was tasked with the choice of adopting either AP or IB at my school. International Baccalaureate is an all encompassing curriculum, which approaches academics from a global perspective...and usually does not offer stand-alone credit for one or two courses. It is also more intellectually rigorous than AP. Advanced Placement, on the other hand, is different, in that it allows students to pick and choose specific courses in the subject areas in which they are strong. AP is better for the average to above average student who is willing to challenge themselves by taking a college level course, and potentially earn college credit. IB is taught at many of the more elite private high schools, (and at TJHSST), where students have been tested and screened, and were raised in a high SES family. IMHO, Justice should focus on AP, which is the path that most of the high schools in FCPS are following. Are you a parent of a student at Justice? If you are, I hope you have a great year![/quote]

IB isn't taught at TJHSST. No sure where you got that idea.

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]How come Justice HS is so inferior to other FCPS area high schools? Test scores are appalling, material in IB classes isn’t always covered? Does anybody care?[/quote]

How exactly do you know what is or isn’t covered in an IB class? You said you’re a retired teacher who taught AP, so you’re not from Justice. [/quote]s


I did not post this comment^^. You obviously did not read my entire previous post. I worked on a committee in the late 1990s which was tasked with the choice of adopting either AP or IB at my school. International Baccalaureate is an all encompassing curriculum, which approaches academics from a global perspective...and usually does not offer stand-alone credit for one or two courses. It is also more intellectually rigorous than AP. Advanced Placement, on the other hand, is different, in that it allows students to pick and choose specific courses in the subject areas in which they are strong. AP is better for the average to above average student who is willing to challenge themselves by taking a college level course, and potentially earn college credit. IB is taught at many of the more elite private high schools, (and at TJHSST), where students have been tested and screened, and were raised in a high SES family. IMHO, Justice should focus on AP, which is the path that most of the high schools in FCPS are following. Are you a parent of a student at Justice? If you are, I hope you have a great year!

[quote=Anonymous]How come Justice HS is so inferior to other FCPS area high schools? Test scores are appalling, material in IB classes isn’t always covered? Does anybody care?[/quote]

How exactly do you know what is or isn’t covered in an IB class? You said you’re a retired teacher who taught AP, so you’re not from Justice.