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Anonymous wrote:UVA has a gift of 120 million for a new data science school being built. I would call them and ask. https://news.virginia.edu/content/uva-plans-new-school-data-science-120-million-gift-largest-university-history

The UVA Data Science Program for undergraduates won't be up and running for another 4 years. It takes a while to make a whole school and major program.

IT is, however, taking Master’s and Ph.d. Candidates

I have a friend that's now a CIO of a large company. He did his undergrad work at UVA in CS. My former company recruited quite a bit from UVA (as well as VT) for software talent. We've been quite impressed with the caliber and well-roundedness of the UVA kids (again, as well as VT).

Anonymous wrote:UVA has a gift of 120 million for a new data science school being built. I would call them and ask. https://news.virginia.edu/content/uva-plans-new-school-data-science-120-million-gift-largest-university-history

The UVA Data Science Program for undergraduates won't be up and running for another 4 years. It takes a while to make a whole school and major program.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. Not looking for a back door really. Just doubt a 17 year old really knows what he wants. Seems the A and S school would give a well rounded education, and the engineering school would give him a chance to be an engineer. They teach CS in high school, but not much engineering, so kid not familiar with it.


At VT, CS is only in engineer school, and if he is weeded out (which I hear so much about), what major would he switch to at VT?

I'm the PP who has a CS degree from UVa. CS is in the Engineering school there as well. Again - when I went there - you had to have a 2.0 to transfer OUT - so if you really washed up you were out of luck. Again check.

My one friend who did the CS minor while still in the Arts & Science school - did just as much programming as I did. I have other friends who were in MIS in the Commerce school who are still techies today. CS is very different then other Engineering majors. When I hire programmers - I don't really care that much about the exact program - I want to see if they can code! My point being - I don't think your child needs to apply to the E-School at Virginia - could still get a great education and all the programming knowledge without. Unless he wants to be hard core programmer - like the folks who create operating systems

Also...you apply for the Comm School (undergrad business) there for 3rd year so they would have some time to ponder different options.

This is interesting stuff. Thank you very much for posting this. It's nice to know that there are a few good routes to take.

Definitely. With coding it is so much more about proving what you know then having a degree from a certain school. Though that doesn't hurt! But, if you love to code...you tend to do it a lot on your own and become good at it. Feel free to post back with any questions.

But people who have taken CS 2150 generally write better code than someone without a degree. Established companies still hire mostly from college grads. There will always be exceptions.

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Anonymous wrote:The in-state admissions rate for 39% for A&S and 39% for Engineering according to their website.

Out of state was 21% for A&S and 24% for engineering.

But kids applying to Engineering would be self-selecting. So I would assume the Engineering kids had higher stats, no?

I think Math is significantly higher.

think it depends on what your kid wants to do.

My kid wants To major in
CS but also likes history and writing and music. He does well in math and chem but doesn’t LOVE them. He has friends that would choose to take math and physics and chem over writing a paper - not my kid.

Since engineering majors don’t declare specialization in the 1st yr, all take the same thing. A student who thinks he wants to major in CS engineering, could actually choose biomedical engineer or chemical engineer when its time to declare major. They would have taken the same classes - intro engineering, cal 1, calc 2, chem, physics etc in the first years. They specialize and take the CS ( or other major) classes later on. They would get an engineering degree with a “specialization” in CS.

My kid is applying CS inArts and sciences. He stillhas the option of taking the same CS Classes as the CS engr major, but will have to take the core (English, language, history, etc) classes instead of the physics and chem classes that he does not prefer.

At interview time they both will be on equal footing, as far as CS is concerned.

But my kid would have had better college career fir him. Because of his current interest in music and history, I love that he can take these at a higher and deeper level. Personally, I feel better not having him ”waste” time and money taking chemistry and physics classes that he wouldn’t enjoy or use as a programmer.

Again,it depends on the kid.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. Not looking for a back door really. Just doubt a 17 year old really knows what he wants. Seems the A and S school would give a well rounded education, and the engineering school would give him a chance to be an engineer. They teach CS in high school, but not much engineering, so kid not familiar with it.


At VT, CS is only in engineer school, and if he is weeded out (which I hear so much about), what major would he switch to at VT?

I'm the PP who has a CS degree from UVa. CS is in the Engineering school there as well. Again - when I went there - you had to have a 2.0 to transfer OUT - so if you really washed up you were out of luck. Again check.

My one friend who did the CS minor while still in the Arts & Science school - did just as much programming as I did. I have other friends who were in MIS in the Commerce school who are still techies today. CS is very different then other Engineering majors. When I hire programmers - I don't really care that much about the exact program - I want to see if they can code! My point being - I don't think your child needs to apply to the E-School at Virginia - could still get a great education and all the programming knowledge without. Unless he wants to be hard core programmer - like the folks who create operating systems

Also...you apply for the Comm School (undergrad business) there for 3rd year so they would have some time to ponder different options.

This is interesting stuff. Thank you very much for posting this. It's nice to know that there are a few good routes to take.

Definitely. With coding it is so much more about proving what you know then having a degree from a certain school. Though that doesn't hurt! But, if you love to code...you tend to do it a lot on your own and become good at it. Feel free to post back with any questions.

This is absolutely true in my experience, with the only caveat being you might get a better job right out of college from a more prestigious school. After two/three years though it doesn't matter.

Anonymous wrote:CS at UVA is excellent. It's ranked much higher than UMich and comparable schools, plus costs less. It's an obvious choice

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CS at UVA is excellent. It's ranked much higher than UMich and comparable schools, plus costs less. It's an obvious choice

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Not looking for a back door really. Just doubt a 17 year old really knows what he wants. Seems the A and S school would give a well rounded education, and the engineering school would give him a chance to be an engineer. They teach CS in high school, but not much engineering, so kid not familiar with it.


At VT, CS is only in engineer school, and if he is weeded out (which I hear so much about), what major would he switch to at VT?

I'm the PP who has a CS degree from UVa. CS is in the Engineering school there as well. Again - when I went there - you had to have a 2.0 to transfer OUT - so if you really washed up you were out of luck. Again check.

My one friend who did the CS minor while still in the Arts & Science school - did just as much programming as I did. I have other friends who were in MIS in the Commerce school who are still techies today. CS is very different then other Engineering majors. When I hire programmers - I don't really care that much about the exact program - I want to see if they can code! My point being - I don't think your child needs to apply to the E-School at Virginia - could still get a great education and all the programming knowledge without. Unless he wants to be hard core programmer - like the folks who create operating systems

Also...you apply for the Comm School (undergrad business) there for 3rd year so they would have some time to ponder different options.

This is interesting stuff. Thank you very much for posting this. It's nice to know that there are a few good routes to take.

Definitely. With coding it is so much more about proving what you know then having a degree from a certain school. Though that doesn't hurt! But, if you love to code...you tend to do it a lot on your own and become good at it. Feel free to post back with any questions.