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Anonymous wrote:Glad justice was served but is it me or is anyone else dismayed by the fact that murderers in D.C. seem to get off relatively 'light'?

30 years for murder doesn't seem like enough and in other states he'd get life.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/man-30-years-prison-stabbing-dc-runner-death-65711696

He got off light because he pleaded guilty. That's the incentive DA's throw out to defendants..."If you plead guilty you won't get life/death sentence."
This tactic helps to A) wrap cases up quickly and B) avoid wasting taxpayer dollars on a lengthy trial when everyone knows dude did it and C) it prevents the slim possibility of a jury acquittal which would make everyone in the DA's office look like incompetent idiots (shoutout to Marcia Clark).

Interesting - that's all well and good but what happens when he gets out and commits another, similar crime? Recidivism is a big problem.

I know how much you love to stress but no need to go that far ahead. Trust me they'll be plenty of other nutjobs out here taking innocent lives that you can worry about in the next 15-20 years before this fool is eligible for parole.

As I mentioned. It's not about only him. Its about murderers from the 1980s, 1990s, 2000s are who are now being released based on this short-sightedness.

Its not like this doesn't happen with frequency.

August 2019 in fact - Crystal City assault suspect was convicted murderer also facing charges in D.C.

Court records show Muhammad, who then went by Macklin, was sentenced in 1992 to 37 years in prison for shooting and killing 22-year-old Shaun Herbert outside a grocery store in the Nauck area of Arlington.

He was out of prison on parole because his conviction occurred before 1995, when Virginia abolished discretionary parole, making Muhammad still eligible. He was released in June 2017, according to the Virginia Department of Corrections.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/crystal-city-assault-suspect-was-convicted-murderer-also-facing-charges-in-dc/2019/08/30/52499f56-cb2b-11e9-a1fe-ca46e8d573c0_story.html

So dude served 25 years on a 37 year sentence and he still came out violent. Is that a result of him not serving his full sentence or is that an indication that our prison system needs a serious overhaul to update it's rehabilitation strategies in order to reduce recidivism? If you ask me it's the latter seeing how research has consistently shown that time spent in prison does not successfully rehabilitate most inmates because the majority of criminals return to a life of crime almost immediately whether they served their full sentence or not.

Its an indication that murderers should get life in prison or the death penalty.

You take a life, your life is taken. End of story.

Hey if you're hellbent on having that sweet loving mother of 3 who had one drink to many at the office party thus making her blood alcohol content .01 above the legal limit getting life or the death penalty for causing that accident I'm not gonna complain. Let me know when you get elected and get that bill passed into law. In the meantime, unfortunately, there's still varying degrees of murder (1st degree, 2nd degree, 3rd degree) and most states uniformly agree that not all of them warrant life or the death penalty and most states take certain events and circumstances into consideration when it comes to sentencing. Now me, personally, I think the odds are really slim that the life-for-a-life concept you're proposing ever becomes a reality so I think a far more productive and probable solution is to focus on more effective rehabilitation but more power to you if you can get the June Cleavers of this world locked up for life.

Glad you mentioned the varying degrees of murder - 1st degree, 2nd degree, 3rd degree.

The Wendy Martinez case is without a doubt 1st degree murder. He should have gotten life without parole or the death penalty.

As any other state with a sane judiciary would have done.

It was indeed a first-degree murder. Had he gone to trial and been convicted he very well could have gotten life without parole. But as I mentioned earlier he didn't go to trial and he was not convicted by a jury of his peers. Instead he pleaded guilty and his plea agreement, which is contingent upon the Court’s approval, calls for a sentence of 30 years and a fine of up to $250,000. As part of the plea deal, Crawford will also have to contribute between $100 and $5,000 to the Victims of Violent Crime Compensation Fund.

That amount is an insult to the victim and her family.

Here you go...be the change you wanna see in the world.

https://m.wikihow.com/Become-a-Judge?amp=1

Apparently as you stated earlier this about DC prosecutors making deals. So wouldn’t it make more sense to get D.C. laws changed, particularly their code for criminal procedure?

No, that wouldn’t make more sense because it’s neither probable nor practical to change criminal procedure and do away with plea bargains.
As criminal courts become ever more crowded, prosecutors and judges alike feel increased pressure to move cases quickly through the system. Criminal trials can take days, weeks, or sometimes months, while guilty pleas can often be arranged in minutes.
Also, the outcome of any given trial is usually unpredictable, whereas a plea bargain provides both prosecution and defense with some control over the result—hopefully, one that both can live with. For these reasons and others, and despite its many critics, plea bargaining is very common.

More than 90% of convictions come from negotiated pleas, which means less than 10% of criminal cases end up in trials.

With that in mind the more sensible solution for you to fix things since you’re so distraught is for you to become a judge because judges can reject a plea agreement altogether or judges may accept only certain terms of the agreement, while rejecting other terms, such as the proposed sentence.

Like I suggested...be the change you wanna see in the world.

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Anonymous wrote:Glad justice was served but is it me or is anyone else dismayed by the fact that murderers in D.C. seem to get off relatively 'light'?

30 years for murder doesn't seem like enough and in other states he'd get life.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/man-30-years-prison-stabbing-dc-runner-death-65711696

He got off light because he pleaded guilty. That's the incentive DA's throw out to defendants..."If you plead guilty you won't get life/death sentence."
This tactic helps to A) wrap cases up quickly and B) avoid wasting taxpayer dollars on a lengthy trial when everyone knows dude did it and C) it prevents the slim possibility of a jury acquittal which would make everyone in the DA's office look like incompetent idiots (shoutout to Marcia Clark).

Interesting - that's all well and good but what happens when he gets out and commits another, similar crime? Recidivism is a big problem.

I know how much you love to stress but no need to go that far ahead. Trust me they'll be plenty of other nutjobs out here taking innocent lives that you can worry about in the next 15-20 years before this fool is eligible for parole.

As I mentioned. It's not about only him. Its about murderers from the 1980s, 1990s, 2000s are who are now being released based on this short-sightedness.

Its not like this doesn't happen with frequency.

August 2019 in fact - Crystal City assault suspect was convicted murderer also facing charges in D.C.

Court records show Muhammad, who then went by Macklin, was sentenced in 1992 to 37 years in prison for shooting and killing 22-year-old Shaun Herbert outside a grocery store in the Nauck area of Arlington.

He was out of prison on parole because his conviction occurred before 1995, when Virginia abolished discretionary parole, making Muhammad still eligible. He was released in June 2017, according to the Virginia Department of Corrections.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/crystal-city-assault-suspect-was-convicted-murderer-also-facing-charges-in-dc/2019/08/30/52499f56-cb2b-11e9-a1fe-ca46e8d573c0_story.html

So dude served 25 years on a 37 year sentence and he still came out violent. Is that a result of him not serving his full sentence or is that an indication that our prison system needs a serious overhaul to update it's rehabilitation strategies in order to reduce recidivism? If you ask me it's the latter seeing how research has consistently shown that time spent in prison does not successfully rehabilitate most inmates because the majority of criminals return to a life of crime almost immediately whether they served their full sentence or not.

Its an indication that murderers should get life in prison or the death penalty.

You take a life, your life is taken. End of story.

Hey if you're hellbent on having that sweet loving mother of 3 who had one drink to many at the office party thus making her blood alcohol content .01 above the legal limit getting life or the death penalty for causing that accident I'm not gonna complain. Let me know when you get elected and get that bill passed into law. In the meantime, unfortunately, there's still varying degrees of murder (1st degree, 2nd degree, 3rd degree) and most states uniformly agree that not all of them warrant life or the death penalty and most states take certain events and circumstances into consideration when it comes to sentencing. Now me, personally, I think the odds are really slim that the life-for-a-life concept you're proposing ever becomes a reality so I think a far more productive and probable solution is to focus on more effective rehabilitation but more power to you if you can get the June Cleavers of this world locked up for life.

Glad you mentioned the varying degrees of murder - 1st degree, 2nd degree, 3rd degree.

The Wendy Martinez case is without a doubt 1st degree murder. He should have gotten life without parole or the death penalty.

As any other state with a sane judiciary would have done.

It was indeed a first-degree murder. Had he gone to trial and been convicted he very well could have gotten life without parole. But as I mentioned earlier he didn't go to trial and he was not convicted by a jury of his peers. Instead he pleaded guilty and his plea agreement, which is contingent upon the Court’s approval, calls for a sentence of 30 years and a fine of up to $250,000. As part of the plea deal, Crawford will also have to contribute between $100 and $5,000 to the Victims of Violent Crime Compensation Fund.

That amount is an insult to the victim and her family.

Here you go...be the change you wanna see in the world.

https://m.wikihow.com/Become-a-Judge?amp=1

Apparently as you stated earlier this about DC prosecutors making deals. So wouldn’t it make more sense to get D.C. laws changed, particularly their code for criminal procedure?

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Anonymous wrote:Glad justice was served but is it me or is anyone else dismayed by the fact that murderers in D.C. seem to get off relatively 'light'?

30 years for murder doesn't seem like enough and in other states he'd get life.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/man-30-years-prison-stabbing-dc-runner-death-65711696

He got off light because he pleaded guilty. That's the incentive DA's throw out to defendants..."If you plead guilty you won't get life/death sentence."
This tactic helps to A) wrap cases up quickly and B) avoid wasting taxpayer dollars on a lengthy trial when everyone knows dude did it and C) it prevents the slim possibility of a jury acquittal which would make everyone in the DA's office look like incompetent idiots (shoutout to Marcia Clark).

Interesting - that's all well and good but what happens when he gets out and commits another, similar crime? Recidivism is a big problem.

I know how much you love to stress but no need to go that far ahead. Trust me they'll be plenty of other nutjobs out here taking innocent lives that you can worry about in the next 15-20 years before this fool is eligible for parole.

As I mentioned. It's not about only him. Its about murderers from the 1980s, 1990s, 2000s are who are now being released based on this short-sightedness.

Its not like this doesn't happen with frequency.

August 2019 in fact - Crystal City assault suspect was convicted murderer also facing charges in D.C.

Court records show Muhammad, who then went by Macklin, was sentenced in 1992 to 37 years in prison for shooting and killing 22-year-old Shaun Herbert outside a grocery store in the Nauck area of Arlington.

He was out of prison on parole because his conviction occurred before 1995, when Virginia abolished discretionary parole, making Muhammad still eligible. He was released in June 2017, according to the Virginia Department of Corrections.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/crystal-city-assault-suspect-was-convicted-murderer-also-facing-charges-in-dc/2019/08/30/52499f56-cb2b-11e9-a1fe-ca46e8d573c0_story.html

So dude served 25 years on a 37 year sentence and he still came out violent. Is that a result of him not serving his full sentence or is that an indication that our prison system needs a serious overhaul to update it's rehabilitation strategies in order to reduce recidivism? If you ask me it's the latter seeing how research has consistently shown that time spent in prison does not successfully rehabilitate most inmates because the majority of criminals return to a life of crime almost immediately whether they served their full sentence or not.

Its an indication that murderers should get life in prison or the death penalty.

You take a life, your life is taken. End of story.

Hey if you're hellbent on having that sweet loving mother of 3 who had one drink to many at the office party thus making her blood alcohol content .01 above the legal limit getting life or the death penalty for causing that accident I'm not gonna complain. Let me know when you get elected and get that bill passed into law. In the meantime, unfortunately, there's still varying degrees of murder (1st degree, 2nd degree, 3rd degree) and most states uniformly agree that not all of them warrant life or the death penalty and most states take certain events and circumstances into consideration when it comes to sentencing. Now me, personally, I think the odds are really slim that the life-for-a-life concept you're proposing ever becomes a reality so I think a far more productive and probable solution is to focus on more effective rehabilitation but more power to you if you can get the June Cleavers of this world locked up for life.

Glad you mentioned the varying degrees of murder - 1st degree, 2nd degree, 3rd degree.

The Wendy Martinez case is without a doubt 1st degree murder. He should have gotten life without parole or the death penalty.

As any other state with a sane judiciary would have done.

It was indeed a first-degree murder. Had he gone to trial and been convicted he very well could have gotten life without parole. But as I mentioned earlier he didn't go to trial and he was not convicted by a jury of his peers. Instead he pleaded guilty and his plea agreement, which is contingent upon the Court’s approval, calls for a sentence of 30 years and a fine of up to $250,000. As part of the plea deal, Crawford will also have to contribute between $100 and $5,000 to the Victims of Violent Crime Compensation Fund.

That amount is an insult to the victim and her family.

Here you go...be the change you wanna see in the world.

https://m.wikihow.com/Become-a-Judge?amp=1

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Anonymous wrote:Glad justice was served but is it me or is anyone else dismayed by the fact that murderers in D.C. seem to get off relatively 'light'?

30 years for murder doesn't seem like enough and in other states he'd get life.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/man-30-years-prison-stabbing-dc-runner-death-65711696

He got off light because he pleaded guilty. That's the incentive DA's throw out to defendants..."If you plead guilty you won't get life/death sentence."
This tactic helps to A) wrap cases up quickly and B) avoid wasting taxpayer dollars on a lengthy trial when everyone knows dude did it and C) it prevents the slim possibility of a jury acquittal which would make everyone in the DA's office look like incompetent idiots (shoutout to Marcia Clark).

Interesting - that's all well and good but what happens when he gets out and commits another, similar crime? Recidivism is a big problem.

I know how much you love to stress but no need to go that far ahead. Trust me they'll be plenty of other nutjobs out here taking innocent lives that you can worry about in the next 15-20 years before this fool is eligible for parole.

As I mentioned. It's not about only him. Its about murderers from the 1980s, 1990s, 2000s are who are now being released based on this short-sightedness.

Its not like this doesn't happen with frequency.

August 2019 in fact - Crystal City assault suspect was convicted murderer also facing charges in D.C.

Court records show Muhammad, who then went by Macklin, was sentenced in 1992 to 37 years in prison for shooting and killing 22-year-old Shaun Herbert outside a grocery store in the Nauck area of Arlington.

He was out of prison on parole because his conviction occurred before 1995, when Virginia abolished discretionary parole, making Muhammad still eligible. He was released in June 2017, according to the Virginia Department of Corrections.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/crystal-city-assault-suspect-was-convicted-murderer-also-facing-charges-in-dc/2019/08/30/52499f56-cb2b-11e9-a1fe-ca46e8d573c0_story.html

So dude served 25 years on a 37 year sentence and he still came out violent. Is that a result of him not serving his full sentence or is that an indication that our prison system needs a serious overhaul to update it's rehabilitation strategies in order to reduce recidivism? If you ask me it's the latter seeing how research has consistently shown that time spent in prison does not successfully rehabilitate most inmates because the majority of criminals return to a life of crime almost immediately whether they served their full sentence or not.

Its an indication that murderers should get life in prison or the death penalty.

You take a life, your life is taken. End of story.

Hey if you're hellbent on having that sweet loving mother of 3 who had one drink to many at the office party thus making her blood alcohol content .01 above the legal limit getting life or the death penalty for causing that accident I'm not gonna complain. Let me know when you get elected and get that bill passed into law. In the meantime, unfortunately, there's still varying degrees of murder (1st degree, 2nd degree, 3rd degree) and most states uniformly agree that not all of them warrant life or the death penalty and most states take certain events and circumstances into consideration when it comes to sentencing. Now me, personally, I think the odds are really slim that the life-for-a-life concept you're proposing ever becomes a reality so I think a far more productive and probable solution is to focus on more effective rehabilitation but more power to you if you can get the June Cleavers of this world locked up for life.

Glad you mentioned the varying degrees of murder - 1st degree, 2nd degree, 3rd degree.

The Wendy Martinez case is without a doubt 1st degree murder. He should have gotten life without parole or the death penalty.

As any other state with a sane judiciary would have done.

It was indeed a first-degree murder. Had he gone to trial and been convicted he very well could have gotten life without parole. But as I mentioned earlier he didn't go to trial and he was not convicted by a jury of his peers. Instead he pleaded guilty and his plea agreement, which is contingent upon the Court’s approval, calls for a sentence of 30 years and a fine of up to $250,000. As part of the plea deal, Crawford will also have to contribute between $100 and $5,000 to the Victims of Violent Crime Compensation Fund.

That amount is an insult to the victim and her family.

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Anonymous wrote:Glad justice was served but is it me or is anyone else dismayed by the fact that murderers in D.C. seem to get off relatively 'light'?

30 years for murder doesn't seem like enough and in other states he'd get life.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/man-30-years-prison-stabbing-dc-runner-death-65711696

He got off light because he pleaded guilty. That's the incentive DA's throw out to defendants..."If you plead guilty you won't get life/death sentence."
This tactic helps to A) wrap cases up quickly and B) avoid wasting taxpayer dollars on a lengthy trial when everyone knows dude did it and C) it prevents the slim possibility of a jury acquittal which would make everyone in the DA's office look like incompetent idiots (shoutout to Marcia Clark).

Interesting - that's all well and good but what happens when he gets out and commits another, similar crime? Recidivism is a big problem.

I know how much you love to stress but no need to go that far ahead. Trust me they'll be plenty of other nutjobs out here taking innocent lives that you can worry about in the next 15-20 years before this fool is eligible for parole.

As I mentioned. It's not about only him. Its about murderers from the 1980s, 1990s, 2000s are who are now being released based on this short-sightedness.

Its not like this doesn't happen with frequency.

August 2019 in fact - Crystal City assault suspect was convicted murderer also facing charges in D.C.

Court records show Muhammad, who then went by Macklin, was sentenced in 1992 to 37 years in prison for shooting and killing 22-year-old Shaun Herbert outside a grocery store in the Nauck area of Arlington.

He was out of prison on parole because his conviction occurred before 1995, when Virginia abolished discretionary parole, making Muhammad still eligible. He was released in June 2017, according to the Virginia Department of Corrections.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/crystal-city-assault-suspect-was-convicted-murderer-also-facing-charges-in-dc/2019/08/30/52499f56-cb2b-11e9-a1fe-ca46e8d573c0_story.html

So dude served 25 years on a 37 year sentence and he still came out violent. Is that a result of him not serving his full sentence or is that an indication that our prison system needs a serious overhaul to update it's rehabilitation strategies in order to reduce recidivism? If you ask me it's the latter seeing how research has consistently shown that time spent in prison does not successfully rehabilitate most inmates because the majority of criminals return to a life of crime almost immediately whether they served their full sentence or not.

Its an indication that murderers should get life in prison or the death penalty.

You take a life, your life is taken. End of story.

Hey if you're hellbent on having that sweet loving mother of 3 who had one drink to many at the office party thus making her blood alcohol content .01 above the legal limit getting life or the death penalty for causing that accident I'm not gonna complain. Let me know when you get elected and get that bill passed into law. In the meantime, unfortunately, there's still varying degrees of murder (1st degree, 2nd degree, 3rd degree) and most states uniformly agree that not all of them warrant life or the death penalty and most states take certain events and circumstances into consideration when it comes to sentencing. Now me, personally, I think the odds are really slim that the life-for-a-life concept you're proposing ever becomes a reality so I think a far more productive and probable solution is to focus on more effective rehabilitation but more power to you if you can get the June Cleavers of this world locked up for life.

I'm 100000% ok with drunk drivers, moms or not, getting life in prison if they kill a person. Or even if they don't. Completely selfish and entirely avoidable.

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Anonymous wrote:Glad justice was served but is it me or is anyone else dismayed by the fact that murderers in D.C. seem to get off relatively 'light'?

30 years for murder doesn't seem like enough and in other states he'd get life.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/man-30-years-prison-stabbing-dc-runner-death-65711696

He got off light because he pleaded guilty. That's the incentive DA's throw out to defendants..."If you plead guilty you won't get life/death sentence."
This tactic helps to A) wrap cases up quickly and B) avoid wasting taxpayer dollars on a lengthy trial when everyone knows dude did it and C) it prevents the slim possibility of a jury acquittal which would make everyone in the DA's office look like incompetent idiots (shoutout to Marcia Clark).

Interesting - that's all well and good but what happens when he gets out and commits another, similar crime? Recidivism is a big problem.

I know how much you love to stress but no need to go that far ahead. Trust me they'll be plenty of other nutjobs out here taking innocent lives that you can worry about in the next 15-20 years before this fool is eligible for parole.

As I mentioned. It's not about only him. Its about murderers from the 1980s, 1990s, 2000s are who are now being released based on this short-sightedness.

Its not like this doesn't happen with frequency.

August 2019 in fact - Crystal City assault suspect was convicted murderer also facing charges in D.C.

Court records show Muhammad, who then went by Macklin, was sentenced in 1992 to 37 years in prison for shooting and killing 22-year-old Shaun Herbert outside a grocery store in the Nauck area of Arlington.

He was out of prison on parole because his conviction occurred before 1995, when Virginia abolished discretionary parole, making Muhammad still eligible. He was released in June 2017, according to the Virginia Department of Corrections.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/crystal-city-assault-suspect-was-convicted-murderer-also-facing-charges-in-dc/2019/08/30/52499f56-cb2b-11e9-a1fe-ca46e8d573c0_story.html

So dude served 25 years on a 37 year sentence and he still came out violent. Is that a result of him not serving his full sentence or is that an indication that our prison system needs a serious overhaul to update it's rehabilitation strategies in order to reduce recidivism? If you ask me it's the latter seeing how research has consistently shown that time spent in prison does not successfully rehabilitate most inmates because the majority of criminals return to a life of crime almost immediately whether they served their full sentence or not.

Its an indication that murderers should get life in prison or the death penalty.

You take a life, your life is taken. End of story.

Hey if you're hellbent on having that sweet loving mother of 3 who had one drink to many at the office party thus making her blood alcohol content .01 above the legal limit getting life or the death penalty for causing that accident I'm not gonna complain. Let me know when you get elected and get that bill passed into law. In the meantime, unfortunately, there's still varying degrees of murder (1st degree, 2nd degree, 3rd degree) and most states uniformly agree that not all of them warrant life or the death penalty and most states take certain events and circumstances into consideration when it comes to sentencing. Now me, personally, I think the odds are really slim that the life-for-a-life concept you're proposing ever becomes a reality so I think a far more productive and probable solution is to focus on more effective rehabilitation but more power to you if you can get the June Cleavers of this world locked up for life.

Glad you mentioned the varying degrees of murder - 1st degree, 2nd degree, 3rd degree.

The Wendy Martinez case is without a doubt 1st degree murder. He should have gotten life without parole or the death penalty.

As any other state with a sane judiciary would have done.

It was indeed a first-degree murder. Had he gone to trial and been convicted he very well could have gotten life without parole. But as I mentioned earlier he didn't go to trial and he was not convicted by a jury of his peers. Instead he pleaded guilty and his plea agreement, which is contingent upon the Court’s approval, calls for a sentence of 30 years and a fine of up to $250,000. As part of the plea deal, Crawford will also have to contribute between $100 and $5,000 to the Victims of Violent Crime Compensation Fund.