Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:GOP denies the story. And, some Dems were present.

There were committee hearings scheduled but no votes expected. The Speaker knew most of the Democrats were at the 9/11 ceremony.

Was is it a partisan 9/11 ceramony? Why weren't the GOP there?

seriously?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article234984187.html

Let's see the facts. Two were at 9/11 ceremonies.

And the others were elsewhere because no vote was scheduled until after 1.

That is not what the article said.

Anonymous wrote:https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article234984187.html

Let's see the facts. Two were at 9/11 ceremonies.

And the others were elsewhere because no vote was scheduled until after 1.

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article234984187.html

Let's see the facts. Two were at 9/11 ceremonies.

Anonymous wrote:"If conservatives become convinced that they can not win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy." ~ David Frum

They’ve really abandoned both, though.

Mostly democracy, but they’ve abandoned both.

"If conservatives become convinced that they can not win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy." ~ David Frum

The GOP has no honor.

Anonymous wrote:Deplorable. Hillary was right.

Agreed.

Deplorable fit then and it fits now.

This is the crystallization of how the Republican Party has to operate now to survive. The Democratic Party has been slowly and steadily picking up more voters. The Republican Party has already formed a coalition with every broad group that they can attract, including fringe elements. There is nowhere for them to pick up more voters. Now they must find every conceivable way to wield power without having the numbers on their side. Lots of those ways are not on the up and up.

This is the Republican modus operandi. They are as dishonest as the day is long.

"No, we won't vote, absolutely no vote. No worries. Go do your other stuff."

wink wink

"Okay boys, time for a vote!"

They are the absolute effing worst

Here's the full story on what happened this morning with the veto override:

Almost every morning while we’re in session, the General Assembly begins with a "skeletal session." This is held for procedural reasons and no votes are taken. Gavel in, gavel out. A formality.

Not only is this session a formality, but on this specific occasion Republican leadership had actually told the Democrats there would be no votes. This is routine. Non-voting sessions happen almost every single day.

But on this morning - after telling Democrats that there would be no votes - the House Republicans used the skeletal session to ambush Democrats with the biggest vote of the year.

At 8:40 a.m., they called a vote on the veto override on our $24 billion budget.

To understand what a big deal this was, you have to know that the (Democratic) Governor had vetoed their (Republican-passed) budget about two months ago. Both sides were in the process of negotiating a better budget, with major issues including teacher pay and Medicaid expansion.

It’s also important to know that this is the first time in almost a decade that Republicans have actually had to negotiate with Democrats on the budget. Until the last election, the GOP had the votes to override any gubernatorial veto. Now they don’t, and for these folks who were used to absolute power that comedown has been absolutely excruciating.

So they found a way around it.

After telling Democrats there would be no votes, they called a vote.

This was while our Governor and at least one of our Democratic members were at a ceremony honoring those who died on September 11th.

A handful of Democrats were on the floor conducting other business. Rep. Butler, a Democrat from the coast, immediately stood and objected. Other members asked to be recognized so they could object, but the Speaker refused to recognize them and proceeded with the vote.

The budget veto was overridden, 55-9.

When they called the surprise vote, barely half the members of the body were present - almost all of them Republicans. They had planned this.

The veto still stands in the Senate, where our members intend to defend it.

It's remarkable to say this because in five years I've seen some really bad stuff, but I think this qualifies as a new low. To be openly dishonest and use that to pass the most high-profile legislation of the year is a new level of outright corruption that I hadn't seen before today.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hardly a surprise. Today's GOP can't win anything without cheating, and their idiot base cheers when they break the rules.

Kinda hilarious coming from the same people that went apopletic after Benghazi.

You still don’t understand that the OP was WRONG, do you? Try rereading the thread. Slowly.

Look at the text exchanges right above your post.

Anonymous wrote:Hardly a surprise. Today's GOP can't win anything without cheating, and their idiot base cheers when they break the rules.

Kinda hilarious coming from the same people that went apopletic after Benghazi.

You still don’t understand that the OP was WRONG, do you? Try rereading the thread. Slowly.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Was is it a partisan 9/11 ceramony? Why weren't the GOP there?


Because they don’t care about dead Americans, including first responders and soldiers who died on 9/11

I guess the Dems don't care either. There goes a good story.

The measure, which passed by a 55-9 vote, came as several members of the Democratic delegation were in committee meetings and at least one was at a ceremony commemorating the 18th anniversary of the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/460914-north-carolina-gop-forces-vote-to-block-budget-with-just-over-half-of

Even if most of the Democrats were not at the 9/11 ceremony, they were not at the Capitol because they had all been told there would be no votes before 1 pm because of the 9/11 ceremony.

Evidently, that is not true either.

Source? This is the schedule that was distributed.

And here's the Republican Rules Chair texting a reporter: