Anonymous
09/18/2019 14:51
Subject: Re:Creative Minds WL
NP. CMI data is there for anyone that wants to consume it.
DC schools report card
CMI elementary: 35% (2 star)
Schools with no to low 2019-2020 waitlist
Meridian: 53%
Bethune: 55%
Hope Tolson: 42%
Hope Lamond: 52%
Raymond: 52%
Sela: 63%
Bunker Hill: 49%
Friendship Blow: 36%
Prey Street Prep: 57%
Nalle: 44%
Beers: 35%
There are many more.
DC schools report card
CMI elementary: 35% (2 star)
Schools with no to low 2019-2020 waitlist
Meridian: 53%
Bethune: 55%
Hope Tolson: 42%
Hope Lamond: 52%
Raymond: 52%
Sela: 63%
Bunker Hill: 49%
Friendship Blow: 36%
Prey Street Prep: 57%
Nalle: 44%
Beers: 35%
There are many more.
Anonymous
09/12/2019 14:48
Subject: Re:Creative Minds WL
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:People know a large majority of SPED kids are level 1 (speech etc). You guys can continue to spew social-emotional all you want. If you’re okay with your 4th header not being able to read or write in the sake of social-emotional (forget about the bullying/behavioral issues in 3rd-6th), then fine. But stop calling the people that call out the failings as haters. There are more than 1 of us. No hate here. Who can hate a school? I want them to be helped to a standard when educating public kids with public funding. I have no issues with a charter like Inspired or Mundo existing, but I do have issues with a charter continue to dismantle higher performing neighborhood school but not teaching the students the standards. The entire model of hiring teachers with little to no experience was set up to fail from the beginning.
I do suspect they will be 2-star this year. As is, this year, their elementary school was a 2-star school. Report card takes into account SPED levels and other demographics. Their middle school scored slightly higher getting the school’s final score to be 0.76% from 2-star level. Their score was 40.76%, elementary was 35% (2-star). Who knows maybe their math increases will help them via growth.
We shall see. Last year, their lottery results were about cut in half so it seems as if some people are getting hip. The waitlist also moved super fast. Pretty soon, they will be a safety school like Bridges.
You seem to be cheering for failure. It's quite sad, really. This is an elementary school, jeez.
Where do you read that pointing out that CMI is failing as a 2-star elementary school is cheering for failure? Please do tell.
Anonymous
09/12/2019 14:28
Subject: Re:Creative Minds WL
Anonymous wrote:People know a large majority of SPED kids are level 1 (speech etc). You guys can continue to spew social-emotional all you want. If you’re okay with your 4th header not being able to read or write in the sake of social-emotional (forget about the bullying/behavioral issues in 3rd-6th), then fine. But stop calling the people that call out the failings as haters. There are more than 1 of us. No hate here. Who can hate a school? I want them to be helped to a standard when educating public kids with public funding. I have no issues with a charter like Inspired or Mundo existing, but I do have issues with a charter continue to dismantle higher performing neighborhood school but not teaching the students the standards. The entire model of hiring teachers with little to no experience was set up to fail from the beginning.
I do suspect they will be 2-star this year. As is, this year, their elementary school was a 2-star school. Report card takes into account SPED levels and other demographics. Their middle school scored slightly higher getting the school’s final score to be 0.76% from 2-star level. Their score was 40.76%, elementary was 35% (2-star). Who knows maybe their math increases will help them via growth.
We shall see. Last year, their lottery results were about cut in half so it seems as if some people are getting hip. The waitlist also moved super fast. Pretty soon, they will be a safety school like Bridges.
You seem to be cheering for failure. It's quite sad, really. This is an elementary school, jeez.
Anonymous
09/12/2019 13:40
Subject: Re:Creative Minds WL
People know a large majority of SPED kids are level 1 (speech etc). You guys can continue to spew social-emotional all you want. If you’re okay with your 4th header not being able to read or write in the sake of social-emotional (forget about the bullying/behavioral issues in 3rd-6th), then fine. But stop calling the people that call out the failings as haters. There are more than 1 of us. No hate here. Who can hate a school? I want them to be helped to a standard when educating public kids with public funding. I have no issues with a charter like Inspired or Mundo existing, but I do have issues with a charter continue to dismantle higher performing neighborhood school but not teaching the students the standards. The entire model of hiring teachers with little to no experience was set up to fail from the beginning.
I do suspect they will be 2-star this year. As is, this year, their elementary school was a 2-star school. Report card takes into account SPED levels and other demographics. Their middle school scored slightly higher getting the school’s final score to be 0.76% from 2-star level. Their score was 40.76%, elementary was 35% (2-star). Who knows maybe their math increases will help them via growth.
We shall see. Last year, their lottery results were about cut in half so it seems as if some people are getting hip. The waitlist also moved super fast. Pretty soon, they will be a safety school like Bridges.
I do suspect they will be 2-star this year. As is, this year, their elementary school was a 2-star school. Report card takes into account SPED levels and other demographics. Their middle school scored slightly higher getting the school’s final score to be 0.76% from 2-star level. Their score was 40.76%, elementary was 35% (2-star). Who knows maybe their math increases will help them via growth.
We shall see. Last year, their lottery results were about cut in half so it seems as if some people are getting hip. The waitlist also moved super fast. Pretty soon, they will be a safety school like Bridges.
Anonymous
09/12/2019 13:27
Subject: Creative Minds WL
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Uh no. CMI scored in Math the way they are SUPPOSED to score based on their demographics. I said that in PP. You’re burying the lead. CMI continues to miss city averages on almost every other measurement. They are scoring 10-15% lower than a school with 2-3 times more low income and English-language learners. Their 4th graders are 50 points away from the 4th graders down the street at Inspired (a school with similar demographics). Overall, white students are 20 points lower than city average.
This is mind blowing!
Could it be that demographics -- by which I believe you mean income, English proficiency, and maybe race -- are not destiny? (CMI says that the population of SN kids is relevant as well, but I don't think the PP comparing ITS and CMI is including that metric.) As a well educated, high SES parent, I heard over and over again that my kids would be fine at any DCPS elementary school, because our family is educated and invests resources in educating our kids well. But if that's not enough at CMI, why would it be enough at, say, Burroughs?
Because it's pointless to support a charter (taking public money) for a better option when it's not better.
Anonymous
09/12/2019 11:13
Subject: Creative Minds WL
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Uh no. CMI scored in Math the way they are SUPPOSED to score based on their demographics. I said that in PP. You’re burying the lead. CMI continues to miss city averages on almost every other measurement. They are scoring 10-15% lower than a school with 2-3 times more low income and English-language learners. Their 4th graders are 50 points away from the 4th graders down the street at Inspired (a school with similar demographics). Overall, white students are 20 points lower than city average.
This is mind blowing!
Could it be that demographics -- by which I believe you mean income, English proficiency, and maybe race -- are not destiny? (CMI says that the population of SN kids is relevant as well, but I don't think the PP comparing ITS and CMI is including that metric.) As a well educated, high SES parent, I heard over and over again that my kids would be fine at any DCPS elementary school, because our family is educated and invests resources in educating our kids well. But if that's not enough at CMI, why would it be enough at, say, Burroughs?
really good point. This forum like to shame parents for not sending their kids to Burroughs (because your kid will be fine anywhere) AND for sending their kids to CMI (because the school is terrible and you are failing your kids academically in order to have them in school with kids with a similar SES). It simply CANNOT be both folks. Make up your mind.
I would suggest that absent learning disabilities, kids of middle/high ses at both burroughs or CMI will be fine. The 4th grader behind in math will catch up with no problem eventually. I don't get the hate for CMI. Clearly parents have chosen a school that doesn't prioritize academics but focuses instead on arts and theater and social-emotional health, and that is fine as long (as the scores stay where they are or higher because they can't drop down to teir two and leep their charter). If you choose Burroughs you are prioritizing traditional academics for your kid - and that is fine too. The Burroughs kid will likely get a 4 or 5 on the parcc in 3rd rgade while the cmi kid gets a 2 or 3. In middle school, if the CMI kid leaves for a more traditional school, both the ex-burroughs kids and the ex-cmi kids will likely get a 4 or 5. All bets are off for a dyslexic kid who needs early academic intervention, but otherwise. . . Carry on.
Anonymous
09/12/2019 10:59
Subject: Creative Minds WL
Anonymous wrote:
Uh no. CMI scored in Math the way they are SUPPOSED to score based on their demographics. I said that in PP. You’re burying the lead. CMI continues to miss city averages on almost every other measurement. They are scoring 10-15% lower than a school with 2-3 times more low income and English-language learners. Their 4th graders are 50 points away from the 4th graders down the street at Inspired (a school with similar demographics). Overall, white students are 20 points lower than city average.
This is mind blowing!
Could it be that demographics -- by which I believe you mean income, English proficiency, and maybe race -- are not destiny? (CMI says that the population of SN kids is relevant as well, but I don't think the PP comparing ITS and CMI is including that metric.) As a well educated, high SES parent, I heard over and over again that my kids would be fine at any DCPS elementary school, because our family is educated and invests resources in educating our kids well. But if that's not enough at CMI, why would it be enough at, say, Burroughs?