Anonymous
09/06/2019 15:47
Subject: Subaru: Am I missing something?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They are VERY popular on this area.
+1 I'm trying to buy a new 2019, and they are selling out like hotcakes. People are putting deposits down for the 2019 for the last few coming in. 2020 doesn't come in till October.
2020’s are already on the lot.
We just bought the last 2019 Outback at Fitzgerald in Rockville this past weekend. Fully loaded Limited trim line for $30K. That was $7500 below MSRP and $8500 below the selling price of a similar 2020 model. We got a helluva deal.
We test drove the 2019 RAV4 hybrid, 2019 BWM X1, 2019 Subaru Outback Limited w/ standard 4 cylinder engine, and 2020 Outback with the turbocharged 4 cylinder (a new engine option for 2020 and beyond models).
We had every intention of buying a new RAV4 Hybrid, which was fully redesigned for 2019. Frankly, the interior feels so cheap compared to BMW and Subaru. It was going to be $34K for the RAV4 we wanted and it had no where near the bells and whistles of the Subaru. Decent engine for a hybrid, but it didn’t wow us. BMW X1 engine is like a sports car, but the seats were uncomfortable and their Apple CarPlay system was painfully difficult to use (and requires an annual subscriptfee).
I actually prefer the 2019 Outback over the 2020 redesigned Outback. The new 2020 replaces most of the in-dash buttons and knobs with a gigantic touchscreen interface (similar to a Tesla). I simply prefer the knobs and buttons, along with the normal 10” touchscreen. If we wanted the 2020 Subaru with the turbocharged engine, we were looking at closer to $39K. I didn’t see the value proposition in the spending so much more for a 2020 model when I could have a 2019 model with pretty much all the same exact features for $30K.
It was a no-brainer.
I should add the fact that Subaru is touting the 2020 Outback as a “redesign” is a bad joke. It didn’t improve on safety features, there’s nothing new in terms of features. The only major differences are the gigantic touch screen, more angular tail lights, the option for a turbocharged engine (extra $$$), and the fact that the 2020 chassis is the first Outback to be built on Subaru’s global platform (ie, all Subaru models will be built on same chassis). Personally, I thought the handling on the 2020 was stiffer and less comfortable relative to the 2019.
Well, modern cars haven't had a separate chassis in decades, but if it's a new platform the it certainly is a redesign. Changes don't get any bigger than that.
Anonymous
09/05/2019 12:11
Subject: Subaru: Am I missing something?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They are VERY popular on this area.
+1 I'm trying to buy a new 2019, and they are selling out like hotcakes. People are putting deposits down for the 2019 for the last few coming in. 2020 doesn't come in till October.
2020’s are already on the lot.
We just bought the last 2019 Outback at Fitzgerald in Rockville this past weekend. Fully loaded Limited trim line for $30K. That was $7500 below MSRP and $8500 below the selling price of a similar 2020 model. We got a helluva deal.
We test drove the 2019 RAV4 hybrid, 2019 BWM X1, 2019 Subaru Outback Limited w/ standard 4 cylinder engine, and 2020 Outback with the turbocharged 4 cylinder (a new engine option for 2020 and beyond models).
We had every intention of buying a new RAV4 Hybrid, which was fully redesigned for 2019. Frankly, the interior feels so cheap compared to BMW and Subaru. It was going to be $34K for the RAV4 we wanted and it had no where near the bells and whistles of the Subaru. Decent engine for a hybrid, but it didn’t wow us. BMW X1 engine is like a sports car, but the seats were uncomfortable and their Apple CarPlay system was painfully difficult to use (and requires an annual subscriptfee).
I actually prefer the 2019 Outback over the 2020 redesigned Outback. The new 2020 replaces most of the in-dash buttons and knobs with a gigantic touchscreen interface (similar to a Tesla). I simply prefer the knobs and buttons, along with the normal 10” touchscreen. If we wanted the 2020 Subaru with the turbocharged engine, we were looking at closer to $39K. I didn’t see the value proposition in the spending so much more for a 2020 model when I could have a 2019 model with pretty much all the same exact features for $30K.
It was a no-brainer.
I was at Fitzgerald Subaru over the weekend. They said Forestor 2020 wasn't coming in till October.
But ITA on the Rav4 Hybrid. I was set to get that too till I test drove both the Forestor and Rav4. I'm going with the Forestor.
Ah sorry, the 2020 Outback is already on the lot. We were not in the market for a Forester so I didn't inquire.
In that case, I'd wait until September 30 and walk onto the lot to buy a 2019 Forester. Keep on top of their inventory. They can also transfer 2019 cars from other states, if they have another color or trim level you want. On the last day of the month just prior to the 2020's arriving, they will be very eager to make a deal. We didn't even need to haggle to get the $30K offer - the sales manager straight up offered it to us and said he wanted the car off the lot that day. He had transferred the Outback from Pennsylvania to Rockville at the request of another buyer, but that other buyer never showed up to claim the car. We happily took it off his hands for $30K in cash, we knew it was a great deal.
Anonymous
09/05/2019 08:38
Subject: Subaru: Am I missing something?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They are VERY popular on this area.
+1 I'm trying to buy a new 2019, and they are selling out like hotcakes. People are putting deposits down for the 2019 for the last few coming in. 2020 doesn't come in till October.
2020’s are already on the lot.
We just bought the last 2019 Outback at Fitzgerald in Rockville this past weekend. Fully loaded Limited trim line for $30K. That was $7500 below MSRP and $8500 below the selling price of a similar 2020 model. We got a helluva deal.
We test drove the 2019 RAV4 hybrid, 2019 BWM X1, 2019 Subaru Outback Limited w/ standard 4 cylinder engine, and 2020 Outback with the turbocharged 4 cylinder (a new engine option for 2020 and beyond models).
We had every intention of buying a new RAV4 Hybrid, which was fully redesigned for 2019. Frankly, the interior feels so cheap compared to BMW and Subaru. It was going to be $34K for the RAV4 we wanted and it had no where near the bells and whistles of the Subaru. Decent engine for a hybrid, but it didn’t wow us. BMW X1 engine is like a sports car, but the seats were uncomfortable and their Apple CarPlay system was painfully difficult to use (and requires an annual subscriptfee).
I actually prefer the 2019 Outback over the 2020 redesigned Outback. The new 2020 replaces most of the in-dash buttons and knobs with a gigantic touchscreen interface (similar to a Tesla). I simply prefer the knobs and buttons, along with the normal 10” touchscreen. If we wanted the 2020 Subaru with the turbocharged engine, we were looking at closer to $39K. I didn’t see the value proposition in the spending so much more for a 2020 model when I could have a 2019 model with pretty much all the same exact features for $30K.
It was a no-brainer.
I was at Fitzgerald Subaru over the weekend. They said Forestor 2020 wasn't coming in till October.
But ITA on the Rav4 Hybrid. I was set to get that too till I test drove both the Forestor and Rav4. I'm going with the Forestor.
Anonymous
09/05/2019 07:47
Subject: Subaru: Am I missing something?
Both grandmothers in our family have Subarus because they are the easiest cars to get in and out of for the over 70 crowd.
Anonymous
09/05/2019 07:43
Subject: Re:Subaru: Am I missing something?
We recently bought the 2020 Ascent Touring over the 2019 Highlander Limited/Platinum. I thought the Ascent interior was much nicer and the technology was much better. This is our first Subaru, and I'm hoping for similar reliability as our past Toyotas.
Anonymous
09/04/2019 22:55
Subject: Re:Subaru: Am I missing something?
We have an Outback and it was a great value compared to other cars we looked at. It's a bit noisy but overall it's been a good buy (8 years so far) with no major repairs.
I found small SUVs like the CRV/RAV4 too cramped in the back - too hard for mom to sit between two car seats if needed!
I found small SUVs like the CRV/RAV4 too cramped in the back - too hard for mom to sit between two car seats if needed!
Anonymous
09/04/2019 22:35
Subject: Subaru: Am I missing something?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They are VERY popular on this area.
+1 I'm trying to buy a new 2019, and they are selling out like hotcakes. People are putting deposits down for the 2019 for the last few coming in. 2020 doesn't come in till October.
2020’s are already on the lot.
We just bought the last 2019 Outback at Fitzgerald in Rockville this past weekend. Fully loaded Limited trim line for $30K. That was $7500 below MSRP and $8500 below the selling price of a similar 2020 model. We got a helluva deal.
We test drove the 2019 RAV4 hybrid, 2019 BWM X1, 2019 Subaru Outback Limited w/ standard 4 cylinder engine, and 2020 Outback with the turbocharged 4 cylinder (a new engine option for 2020 and beyond models).
We had every intention of buying a new RAV4 Hybrid, which was fully redesigned for 2019. Frankly, the interior feels so cheap compared to BMW and Subaru. It was going to be $34K for the RAV4 we wanted and it had no where near the bells and whistles of the Subaru. Decent engine for a hybrid, but it didn’t wow us. BMW X1 engine is like a sports car, but the seats were uncomfortable and their Apple CarPlay system was painfully difficult to use (and requires an annual subscriptfee).
I actually prefer the 2019 Outback over the 2020 redesigned Outback. The new 2020 replaces most of the in-dash buttons and knobs with a gigantic touchscreen interface (similar to a Tesla). I simply prefer the knobs and buttons, along with the normal 10” touchscreen. If we wanted the 2020 Subaru with the turbocharged engine, we were looking at closer to $39K. I didn’t see the value proposition in the spending so much more for a 2020 model when I could have a 2019 model with pretty much all the same exact features for $30K.
It was a no-brainer.
I should add the fact that Subaru is touting the 2020 Outback as a “redesign” is a bad joke. It didn’t improve on safety features, there’s nothing new in terms of features. The only major differences are the gigantic touch screen, more angular tail lights, the option for a turbocharged engine (extra $$$), and the fact that the 2020 chassis is the first Outback to be built on Subaru’s global platform (ie, all Subaru models will be built on same chassis). Personally, I thought the handling on the 2020 was stiffer and less comfortable relative to the 2019.
Anonymous
09/04/2019 22:30
Subject: Subaru: Am I missing something?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They are VERY popular on this area.
+1 I'm trying to buy a new 2019, and they are selling out like hotcakes. People are putting deposits down for the 2019 for the last few coming in. 2020 doesn't come in till October.
2020’s are already on the lot.
We just bought the last 2019 Outback at Fitzgerald in Rockville this past weekend. Fully loaded Limited trim line for $30K. That was $7500 below MSRP and $8500 below the selling price of a similar 2020 model. We got a helluva deal.
We test drove the 2019 RAV4 hybrid, 2019 BWM X1, 2019 Subaru Outback Limited w/ standard 4 cylinder engine, and 2020 Outback with the turbocharged 4 cylinder (a new engine option for 2020 and beyond models).
We had every intention of buying a new RAV4 Hybrid, which was fully redesigned for 2019. Frankly, the interior feels so cheap compared to BMW and Subaru. It was going to be $34K for the RAV4 we wanted and it had no where near the bells and whistles of the Subaru. Decent engine for a hybrid, but it didn’t wow us. BMW X1 engine is like a sports car, but the seats were uncomfortable and their Apple CarPlay system was painfully difficult to use (and requires an annual subscriptfee).
I actually prefer the 2019 Outback over the 2020 redesigned Outback. The new 2020 replaces most of the in-dash buttons and knobs with a gigantic touchscreen interface (similar to a Tesla). I simply prefer the knobs and buttons, along with the normal 10” touchscreen. If we wanted the 2020 Subaru with the turbocharged engine, we were looking at closer to $39K. I didn’t see the value proposition in the spending so much more for a 2020 model when I could have a 2019 model with pretty much all the same exact features for $30K.
It was a no-brainer.
Anonymous
09/04/2019 21:49
Subject: Subaru: Am I missing something?
Anonymous wrote:I have a Toyota and a Mazda, and the Toyota has proved much more reliable mechanically and electronically.
I'm interested in the Subaru, though. Are there electric ones?
Toyotas are not as reliable as they used to be. As far as AWD, Subaru has the best technology. If you are looking for a hybrid AWD, then yes, Toyota would be good.
No all electric subarus. Crosstrek 2020 is the first hybrid. Subarus strength is in the AWD and performance technology. Their interior is lackluster, but if you don't care that much abou the bells and whistles and interior cool factor, Subarus are great. Great performance.
Outback just came out with a turbo. Regular gas, too, not premium. I was tempted to get one, but it's a bit too big for my needs. I was really bummed.
Anonymous
09/04/2019 21:46
Subject: Subaru: Am I missing something?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This gasket thing is an old wive’s tail.
You cannot go wrong w Subaru, or for that matter, Honda or Toyota.
Signed happy Subaru owner
What are you basing this on? I'm basing it on the fact that I've owned 4 Subarus.
And on the fact that if you Google 'Subaru gasket issues' you get a ton of hits.
I've had 3 and never had a gasket issue. I've loved them all and will continue to buy them.
Anonymous
09/04/2019 21:45
Subject: Subaru: Am I missing something?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This gasket thing is an old wive’s tail.
You cannot go wrong w Subaru, or for that matter, Honda or Toyota.
Signed happy Subaru owner
What are you basing this on? I'm basing it on the fact that I've owned 4 Subarus.
And on the fact that if you Google 'Subaru gasket issues' you get a ton of hits.
why did you buy 4 knowing gasket issue?
2 were inherited. 1 I bought before I knew.
Last one is a 2018. Apparently they’ve improved design a lot.
Yes, they fixed it last year. I have a 2004 one and the gasket issue popped up last year. I'm going to get a 2019 or 2020 one soon. I specifically asked about the gasket issue at the dealer's. Other than this one issue, the car has been great.
Anonymous
09/04/2019 21:44
Subject: Subaru: Am I missing something?
They are popular in a lot of places like in CA even.
Anonymous
09/04/2019 21:43
Subject: Subaru: Am I missing something?
Anonymous wrote:They are VERY popular on this area.
+1 I'm trying to buy a new 2019, and they are selling out like hotcakes. People are putting deposits down for the 2019 for the last few coming in. 2020 doesn't come in till October.
Anonymous
09/04/2019 21:43
Subject: Subaru: Am I missing something?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This gasket thing is an old wive’s tail.
You cannot go wrong w Subaru, or for that matter, Honda or Toyota.
Signed happy Subaru owner
What are you basing this on? I'm basing it on the fact that I've owned 4 Subarus.
And on the fact that if you Google 'Subaru gasket issues' you get a ton of hits.
why did you buy 4 knowing gasket issue?
2 were inherited. 1 I bought before I knew.
Last one is a 2018. Apparently they’ve improved design a lot.
Anonymous
09/04/2019 21:25
Subject: Subaru: Am I missing something?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This gasket thing is an old wive’s tail.
You cannot go wrong w Subaru, or for that matter, Honda or Toyota.
Signed happy Subaru owner
What are you basing this on? I'm basing it on the fact that I've owned 4 Subarus.
And on the fact that if you Google 'Subaru gasket issues' you get a ton of hits.
why did you buy 4 knowing gasket issue?