Anonymous wrote:Hahahaha, it’s a terrible program that was slapped together in maybe three weeks. The scripted lessons read like boring, overwrought training sessions for teachers. Not aimed at children at all.

Would be funny if it weren’t so sad.

I'm not sure what you are talking about, but Eureka Math is the same thing as Engage NY, which was developed in 2012 and was not 'slapped together in 3 weeks.'

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Anonymous wrote:Hahahaha, it’s a terrible program that was slapped together in maybe three weeks. The scripted lessons read like boring, overwrought training sessions for teachers. Not aimed at children at all.

Would be funny if it weren’t so sad.

Are you even a teacher? Have you used the curriculum? They are not scripted lessons, Eureka is quite adamant that they are vignettes used as an example of how the lesson might go and should absolutely NOT be read as a script.

Excuse me, I misunderstood. I thought the program was meant to be followed “with fidelity”. Someone upthread claimed this was the reason scores weren’t good, bc Eureka math was not followed with fidelity. Get your story straight, please.

And I even if the lessons are taken as vignettes — Hahahaha , awfully long vignettes — they are needlessly complex and long winded. Meaningless verbiage. Kids zone out; they see right through your scam.

Anonymous wrote:Hahahaha, it’s a terrible program that was slapped together in maybe three weeks. The scripted lessons read like boring, overwrought training sessions for teachers. Not aimed at children at all.

Would be funny if it weren’t so sad.

Are you even a teacher? Have you used the curriculum? They are not scripted lessons, Eureka is quite adamant that they are vignettes used as an example of how the lesson might go and should absolutely NOT be read as a script.

Hahahaha, it’s a terrible program that was slapped together in maybe three weeks. The scripted lessons read like boring, overwrought training sessions for teachers. Not aimed at children at all.

Would be funny if it weren’t so sad.

It's actually a really good program.

MCPS is switching to Eureka this year (though some schools are in line to switch in later years).

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49NPo4y9E9A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRVDNBR8QQc

This was painful to watch. Couldn't he just say 4x10=40 and that we don't move the decimal point, but we move the number. He should show the number moving over and not the point. Seems like it is un-doing earlier teaching, where moving the "decimal point" to the right, was taught.

Not Eureka-specific. That’s the Common Core objective. The goal - agree with it or not - is to develop number sense and various modes of expression vs memorization. It is useful far down the line in computer programming, which all students need to be able to do to some extent. It is very different from the way I was taught but I am not convinced it is bad (parent of 2 HS students who went They this, one who is headed off to college next week well prepared).

I work in DCPS 1st grade and have 2 DCPS kids in elementary. Eureka is very different than the way I learned math, but it is less about memorization now as PP said and more about number sense and flexible thinking around numbers. Once I got over the fact that this was a big change from what I knew, I actually find it to be a really helpful way to think about numbers. My kids have really taken to it.

FWIW our ES has had some amazing math coaches that have helped us work with and utilize Eureka.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49NPo4y9E9A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRVDNBR8QQc

This was painful to watch. Couldn't he just say 4x10=40 and that we don't move the decimal point, but we move the number. He should show the number moving over and not the point. Seems like it is un-doing earlier teaching, where moving the "decimal point" to the right, was taught.

Understanding math means knowing that there is more than just one way to figure things out, to understand why the various ways work, and ultimately to know how to determine which way is best in a given situation. Those of us who were taught just one way to solve a problem and never taught why it worked, never really progressed in or truly learned "math." We just learned basic commercial survival.

The problem is few DCPS schools follow the curriculum with fidelity. Everyone is an expert and changes this or that or takes out something they know better, and then there are gaps left behind. It may not be a problem this year, but the curriculum builds, so next year the kid is out of luck.