Anonymous
Post 08/09/2019 18:24     Subject: Who in history has used legal gun ownership to defeat a tyrannical government?
Palestine, inshallah
Anonymous
Post 08/09/2019 18:22     Subject: Who in history has used legal gun ownership to defeat a tyrannical government?
American colonies did. In not too far away past, or in terms of other Empires around the world, they did it the other day.
Anonymous
Post 08/09/2019 18:02     Subject: Re:Who in history has used legal gun ownership to defeat a tyrannical government?
Anonymous wrote:
The reason the Nazis didn't invade Switzerland in WWII is because it would have been a nightmare for them to even try, given how armed Swiss citizens were (and are).


God , you ammosexuals are imbelic. So dumb, so uniformed... The reason the Nazis didn't invade Switzerland was because they wanted a neutral place (i.e., that the Allies would stay out of) that they could secretly store gold and, more importantly, have a place Nazi leaders could slip away to, if the war turned against them.

But the funniest/dumbest thing you say is
would have been a nightmare for them to even try


The Nazis lost more than 3.5 million men (that's more than 8 times the total losses of the U.S. in WWII) on the Eastern Front alone. That's one campaign and does include their combat with the Americans, British and Canadians. So, um... they weren't worried about those pesky Swiss and the "nightmare" rolling through Switzerland would have (not) presented.

You are an idiot .

When's the next mass shooting? NRA4Ever! Keep Voting Republican!


Also, and this is very important, MOUNTAINS!
Anonymous
Post 08/09/2019 17:53     Subject: Who in history has used legal gun ownership to defeat a tyrannical government?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The far right pro-gun camp insists that they must defend their right to stockpile multiple and highly lethal firearms in the event that they must rise up against a tyrannical government.

As such, can anyone provide an example of a nation, in the distant or recent past, that has drawn on their legal right to own guns to successfully defeat a tyrannical government and install a new, highly functioning democracy?

Usually I like to think that laws are based at least in part on best practices and lessons learned analyses, so just curious if there are any examples we can draw insights from.


The reason the Nazis didn't invade Switzerland in WWII is because it would have been a nightmare for them to even try, given how armed Swiss citizens were (and are).

Compare that with what happened to Austria.


LOL more so vs Russia? They used Switzerland as their bank. They could have easily invaded and defeated Switzerland. After France fell the Germans completed surrounded Switzerland and had 102 divisions(about 2 million men) they could have put to the operation. It is fantasy think the Germans would not have won and won easily. Sure a few people can holdout in the mountains but the Germans were known for removing town for punishment for resistance.
Anonymous
Post 08/09/2019 17:34     Subject: Re:Who in history has used legal gun ownership to defeat a tyrannical government?
Anonymous wrote:USA 1946 - Battle of Athens.


Anyway a better question is... what dictatorial regime didn’t first disarm the citizenry before imposing murderous totalitarianism?


Sure, they could have resolved that peacefully through the courts, but bloodshed was so much easier.
Anonymous
Post 08/09/2019 17:25     Subject: Who in history has used legal gun ownership to defeat a tyrannical government?
In this day and age, no citizen militia— no matter how many military assault rifles it amasses, could challenge the U.S. military employed by a tyrannical federal government. It’s ludicrous to think otherwise.

And even if an armed citizenry overthrew the government, what makes anyone think that the result would be democracy? People who come to power through force usually choose to stay in power through force. One tyranny would replace another.

We have a democracy. It’s up to the citizens to make sure it works.
Anonymous
Post 08/09/2019 17:02     Subject: Re:Who in history has used legal gun ownership to defeat a tyrannical government?
The reason the Nazis didn't invade Switzerland in WWII is because it would have been a nightmare for them to even try, given how armed Swiss citizens were (and are).

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Comedy gold! You need to read up on history, silly Republican.
Anonymous
Post 08/09/2019 16:58     Subject: Re:Who in history has used legal gun ownership to defeat a tyrannical government?
The reason the Nazis didn't invade Switzerland in WWII is because it would have been a nightmare for them to even try, given how armed Swiss citizens were (and are).


God , you ammosexuals are imbelic. So dumb, so uniformed... The reason the Nazis didn't invade Switzerland was because they wanted a neutral place (i.e., that the Allies would stay out of) that they could secretly store gold and, more importantly, have a place Nazi leaders could slip away to, if the war turned against them.

But the funniest/dumbest thing you say is
would have been a nightmare for them to even try


The Nazis lost more than 3.5 million men (that's more than 8 times the total losses of the U.S. in WWII) on the Eastern Front alone. That's one campaign and does include their combat with the Americans, British and Canadians. So, um... they weren't worried about those pesky Swiss and the "nightmare" rolling through Switzerland would have (not) presented.

You are an idiot .

When's the next mass shooting? NRA4Ever! Keep Voting Republican!
Anonymous
Post 08/09/2019 16:57     Subject: Who in history has used legal gun ownership to defeat a tyrannical government?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The United States


It’s OWN government, not colonial rule.


This may come as a shock to you, but at the time of the American revolution, the colonists were fighting against their existing government.

And, what is the point of your question? The second amendment isn’t dependent on empirical proof that it is possible to fight government tyranny. It is proposition that was agreed to and is there in the document.
Anonymous
Post 08/09/2019 16:53     Subject: Re:Who in history has used legal gun ownership to defeat a tyrannical government?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:USA 1946 - Battle of Athens.


Anyway a better question is... what dictatorial regime didn’t first disarm the citizenry before imposing murderous totalitarianism?


There is nothing stopping the us from doing that. We no longer have well regulated militias.


My hunch is if ‘goverenment’ started going door to door to rounding up firearms, we’d have some well regulated militias form up rather quick.


And the government would have 50x the firepower.
Anonymous
Post 08/09/2019 16:50     Subject: Who in history has used legal gun ownership to defeat a tyrannical government?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The far right pro-gun camp insists that they must defend their right to stockpile multiple and highly lethal firearms in the event that they must rise up against a tyrannical government.

As such, can anyone provide an example of a nation, in the distant or recent past, that has drawn on their legal right to own guns to successfully defeat a tyrannical government and install a new, highly functioning democracy?

Usually I like to think that laws are based at least in part on best practices and lessons learned analyses, so just curious if there are any examples we can draw insights from.


The reason the Nazis didn't invade Switzerland in WWII is because it would have been a nightmare for them to even try, given how armed Swiss citizens were (and are).

Compare that with what happened to Austria.


OP is getting the whole premise wrong.

The reason to have armed civilians is to PREVENT a tyranical government from taking over our democracy -- witness what Chavez and Maduro have done in Venezuela.
Anonymous
Post 08/09/2019 16:45     Subject: Who in history has used legal gun ownership to defeat a tyrannical government?
Anonymous wrote:Russia 1917 and the overthrow of Nicholas and Alexandra


and a bunch of children got shot to death in that one, too! Almost like they were in a mall, or a high school!

#MassShootersHaveRightsToo!
Anonymous
Post 08/09/2019 16:42     Subject: Who in history has used legal gun ownership to defeat a tyrannical government?
Anonymous wrote:We don’t still have the 2A to keep the government in check. That’s a joke.

We still have the 2A because it’s profitable.


Bingo! Guns = Money! And mass shootings are the cost of doing business! NRA4Ever! Vote Republican!
Anonymous
Post 08/09/2019 16:42     Subject: Re:Who in history has used legal gun ownership to defeat a tyrannical government?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:USA 1946 - Battle of Athens.


Anyway a better question is... what dictatorial regime didn’t first disarm the citizenry before imposing murderous totalitarianism?


There is nothing stopping the us from doing that. We no longer have well regulated militias.


My hunch is if ‘goverenment’ started going door to door to rounding up firearms, we’d have some well regulated militias form up rather quick.
Anonymous
Post 08/09/2019 16:41     Subject: Who in history has used legal gun ownership to defeat a tyrannical government?
Anonymous wrote:The far right pro-gun camp insists that they must defend their right to stockpile multiple and highly lethal firearms in the event that they must rise up against a tyrannical government.

As such, can anyone provide an example of a nation, in the distant or recent past, that has drawn on their legal right to own guns to successfully defeat a tyrannical government and install a new, highly functioning democracy?

Usually I like to think that laws are based at least in part on best practices and lessons learned analyses, so just curious if there are any examples we can draw insights from.


The reason the Nazis didn't invade Switzerland in WWII is because it would have been a nightmare for them to even try, given how armed Swiss citizens were (and are).

Compare that with what happened to Austria.