Anonymous
Post 08/02/2019 13:46     Subject: Stokes sued for barring parent
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Very sad, I'm glad she has professional legal representation.

This is the dark under-belly of charter schools: they try to act like private schools and abdicate their responsibility to educate children with disabilities. I doubt Stokes is the first or the last.


And glad that WLC is taking a more aggressive approach. Five year ban, come on! I could understand even the remainder of the school year as a cooling-off period. But this is a naked attempt to get rid of people. Yes, at-risk families can be challenging. But charters need to do their share of the work. Not just send them back to their IB and carry on talking about how much DCPS sucks.


Dcps DOES IN FACT suck so there is that.


Sure it does, but it's galling how the charter sector loves to crap on DCPS while also sticking them with the hardest kids and parents.


You raise an excellent point.

And I also regret saying the word “sucks”. Dcps has let down my kids many times, but they’re trying. I guess.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2019 13:45     Subject: Stokes sued for barring parent
Anonymous wrote:Oyster tells kids to leave if parents ask for an evaluation?


Yes they do.

I have zero skin in this game. I don’t know anything about stokes. But dcps has dropped the ball many times for my sped kid and I’m happy we are in a charter.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2019 13:45     Subject: Stokes sued for barring parent
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Very sad, I'm glad she has professional legal representation.

This is the dark under-belly of charter schools: they try to act like private schools and abdicate their responsibility to educate children with disabilities. I doubt Stokes is the first or the last.


And glad that WLC is taking a more aggressive approach. Five year ban, come on! I could understand even the remainder of the school year as a cooling-off period. But this is a naked attempt to get rid of people. Yes, at-risk families can be challenging. But charters need to do their share of the work. Not just send them back to their IB and carry on talking about how much DCPS sucks.


Dcps DOES IN FACT suck so there is that.


Sure it does, but it's galling how the charter sector loves to crap on DCPS while also sticking them with the hardest kids and parents.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2019 13:44     Subject: Stokes sued for barring parent
Anonymous wrote:In addition to the suit over the barring notice filed by th Washington Committee, AJE just filed a due process complaint. That suit contends that the school refused to comply with the parent’s legal request for an evaluation within the specified time frame.

Neither legal group is known for wasting time on BS cases.



Zero skin in this game, but ive seen some bs cases from both groups.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2019 13:44     Subject: Stokes sued for barring parent
Oyster tells kids to leave if parents ask for an evaluation?
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2019 13:43     Subject: Stokes sued for barring parent
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Very sad, I'm glad she has professional legal representation.

This is the dark under-belly of charter schools: they try to act like private schools and abdicate their responsibility to educate children with disabilities. I doubt Stokes is the first or the last.


And glad that WLC is taking a more aggressive approach. Five year ban, come on! I could understand even the remainder of the school year as a cooling-off period. But this is a naked attempt to get rid of people. Yes, at-risk families can be challenging. But charters need to do their share of the work. Not just send them back to their IB and carry on talking about how much DCPS sucks.


Dcps DOES IN FACT suck so there is that.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2019 13:42     Subject: Stokes sued for barring parent
Anonymous wrote:Very sad, I'm glad she has professional legal representation.

This is the dark under-belly of charter schools: they try to act like private schools and abdicate their responsibility to educate children with disabilities. I doubt Stokes is the first or the last.


Um how is this different from what Oyster does on the regular?

Dcps is TERRIBLE when it comes to special ed, and oyster is in particular egregious. Give me a break.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2019 13:17     Subject: Stokes sued for barring parent
Anonymous wrote:Very sad, I'm glad she has professional legal representation.

This is the dark under-belly of charter schools: they try to act like private schools and abdicate their responsibility to educate children with disabilities. I doubt Stokes is the first or the last.


And glad that WLC is taking a more aggressive approach. Five year ban, come on! I could understand even the remainder of the school year as a cooling-off period. But this is a naked attempt to get rid of people. Yes, at-risk families can be challenging. But charters need to do their share of the work. Not just send them back to their IB and carry on talking about how much DCPS sucks.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2019 13:11     Subject: Stokes sued for barring parent
Very sad, I'm glad she has professional legal representation.

This is the dark under-belly of charter schools: they try to act like private schools and abdicate their responsibility to educate children with disabilities. I doubt Stokes is the first or the last.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2019 12:51     Subject: Stokes sued for barring parent
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.washlaw.org/e-w-stokes-charter-school-wrongfully-bars-parent-from-kindergarten-graduation-elementary-school-for-five-years/

Apparently a Stokes staffer pushed a child and when the parent complained she was barred? Now I don't know *how* she complained but I could understand being pretty heated in this situation myself.


This lawsuit makes it sound as if Stokes is being run by abusive jailhouse wardens—not educators. If true, I wouldn’t send my dog to Stokes. This mother must not have any other school options.


That's very possible in DC where you have to literally win the lottery to get into a good school, and if this family lives EOTR they probably don't have even good enough neighborhood schools, let alone really good or average ones.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2019 12:43     Subject: Stokes sued for barring parent
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:that video and the other allegations are not okay. No one here would be okay with those things happening to their kids


Agreed. But it's also not appropriate for a parent to steal from the school, harass staff, or disrupt classes. I don't know if she did those things and to what degree (for example, are they accusing her of taking school items without authorization and it was like a box in a pile of empty boxes by a recycling bin, or was it 10 laptops?) so it's good that a court will hear the evidence and come to a conclusion.

If Stokes wants to operate as a public school, it has to educate all the kids who get seats in the lottery. Even if they have special needs. Even if their parent shows anger or sadness in ways that some people feel is inappropriate.


I'm guessing the unauthorized removal is of the video that is on YouTube. I'm sure the school did not voluntarily give her the security footage.


So you think she hacked the school? I find that unlikely.


She took out her phone and videotaped the security footage. The school's response to her complaining about her kindergartener getting pushed and her wanting her preschooler to get assessed for speech problems was to encourage her to leave the school. That isn't OK. Charter schools aren't supposed to be able to counsel out students even though they try to.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2019 12:15     Subject: Stokes sued for barring parent
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:that video and the other allegations are not okay. No one here would be okay with those things happening to their kids


Agreed. But it's also not appropriate for a parent to steal from the school, harass staff, or disrupt classes. I don't know if she did those things and to what degree (for example, are they accusing her of taking school items without authorization and it was like a box in a pile of empty boxes by a recycling bin, or was it 10 laptops?) so it's good that a court will hear the evidence and come to a conclusion.

If Stokes wants to operate as a public school, it has to educate all the kids who get seats in the lottery. Even if they have special needs. Even if their parent shows anger or sadness in ways that some people feel is inappropriate.


I'm guessing the unauthorized removal is of the video that is on YouTube. I'm sure the school did not voluntarily give her the security footage.


So you think she hacked the school? I find that unlikely.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2019 12:11     Subject: Stokes sued for barring parent
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:that video and the other allegations are not okay. No one here would be okay with those things happening to their kids


Agreed. But it's also not appropriate for a parent to steal from the school, harass staff, or disrupt classes. I don't know if she did those things and to what degree (for example, are they accusing her of taking school items without authorization and it was like a box in a pile of empty boxes by a recycling bin, or was it 10 laptops?) so it's good that a court will hear the evidence and come to a conclusion.

If Stokes wants to operate as a public school, it has to educate all the kids who get seats in the lottery. Even if they have special needs. Even if their parent shows anger or sadness in ways that some people feel is inappropriate.


I'm guessing the unauthorized removal is of the video that is on YouTube. I'm sure the school did not voluntarily give her the security footage.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2019 11:59     Subject: Stokes sued for barring parent
Anonymous wrote:that video and the other allegations are not okay. No one here would be okay with those things happening to their kids


Of course. And that has absolutely nothing to do with the question of whether her conduct rose to such an egregious level that a barring order is appropriate.

As a parent, I would have zero problem if another parent who swore at, abused or even threatened teachers and staff, disrupted classrooms, and stole school property was permanently barred form the premises.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2019 11:44     Subject: Stokes sued for barring parent
Anonymous wrote:that video and the other allegations are not okay. No one here would be okay with those things happening to their kids


Agreed. But it's also not appropriate for a parent to steal from the school, harass staff, or disrupt classes. I don't know if she did those things and to what degree (for example, are they accusing her of taking school items without authorization and it was like a box in a pile of empty boxes by a recycling bin, or was it 10 laptops?) so it's good that a court will hear the evidence and come to a conclusion.

If Stokes wants to operate as a public school, it has to educate all the kids who get seats in the lottery. Even if they have special needs. Even if their parent shows anger or sadness in ways that some people feel is inappropriate.