Anonymous
07/27/2019 10:09
Subject: Not gifted, but wants to learn
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Don't listen to these naysayers. My kid had a 118 CoGat and got in because she's a lover of learning, creative, and a very hard worker. Prep for the CoGat and he'll get a good score and a good GBRS if he loves learning and works hard. He totally belongs in AAP. Very few kids are actually gifted in AAP. They are just smart, and so is your kid.
This is inaccurate. The scores tend to be clustered with the mean score a few points above the cutoff point of 132. Yes some kids do get admitted with lower scores but it's not accurate to say that very few kids are 'actually gifted.'
That doesn't mean all those kids have IQs of 132. LOL. Half those kids have taken years of test prep classes.
NP. Maybe half the kids you know have. Not half the kids I know. We are also fortunate to live in a low-prepping area.
During “results season” someone on here posted that something like 40-50% of their schools second graders went to AAP every year. That was astonishing. It’s maybe 4 or 5 kids at most from our school every year.
Anonymous
07/27/2019 10:01
Subject: Not gifted, but wants to learn
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't think my son is gifted, but he has incredible executive function skills and loves to work hard. He is a rising second grader and said school was too boring last year and he hopes it is harder next year. Over the summer, he wanted to learn 2nd and 3rd grade math, so we're currently on multiplication and division.
I really feel like he would benefit from being in the AAP program, though his NNAT score was just around 120. What are the chances that a child that is not actually gifted, but interested in working hard and learning, can be placed in the AAP program? My older daughter has learning disabilities, so this is all new to me.
My two older children are merely "bright" certainly not gifted (IQs both below 120) and they are enjoying full time AAP. I can't compare with the regular 3rd grade and up but our experience is that any above average child will do fine in AAP. If you have a great base school with lots of learning opportunities and a high achieving peer group, that will probably be fine too. We didn't have that hence the push to move to the AAP center.
Forgot to mention, they both worked through this book and scored well on the Cogat. Even getting a few more questions right is a huge increase on the test score and "prepping" absolutely inflates the scores. $15 well spent. Sorry haters.
https://www.amazon.com/Gifted-Talented-COGAT-Test-Grade/dp/0997943955/ref=pd_sbs_14_2/134-9624849-1030943?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=0997943955&pd_rd_r=8ac15734-d548-477a-9e1c-56c6420b91b6&pd_rd_w=nFsSQ&pd_rd_wg=8R67l&pf_rd_p=43281256-7633-49c8-b909-7ffd7d8cb21e&pf_rd_r=JG2JA4ZY5RE2BXGEMXH6&psc=1&refRID=JG2JA4ZY5RE2BXGEMXH6
Anonymous
07/27/2019 10:01
Subject: Not gifted, but wants to learn
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Don't listen to these naysayers. My kid had a 118 CoGat and got in because she's a lover of learning, creative, and a very hard worker. Prep for the CoGat and he'll get a good score and a good GBRS if he loves learning and works hard. He totally belongs in AAP. Very few kids are actually gifted in AAP. They are just smart, and so is your kid.
This is inaccurate. The scores tend to be clustered with the mean score a few points above the cutoff point of 132. Yes some kids do get admitted with lower scores but it's not accurate to say that very few kids are 'actually gifted.'
That doesn't mean all those kids have IQs of 132. LOL. Half those kids have taken years of test prep classes.
NP. Maybe half the kids you know have. Not half the kids I know. We are also fortunate to live in a low-prepping area.
Anonymous
07/27/2019 09:55
Subject: Not gifted, but wants to learn
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Don't listen to these naysayers. My kid had a 118 CoGat and got in because she's a lover of learning, creative, and a very hard worker. Prep for the CoGat and he'll get a good score and a good GBRS if he loves learning and works hard. He totally belongs in AAP. Very few kids are actually gifted in AAP. They are just smart, and so is your kid.
This is inaccurate. The scores tend to be clustered with the mean score a few points above the cutoff point of 132. Yes some kids do get admitted with lower scores but it's not accurate to say that very few kids are 'actually gifted.'
That doesn't mean all those kids have IQs of 132. LOL. Half those kids have taken years of test prep classes.
Anonymous
07/27/2019 09:53
Subject: Not gifted, but wants to learn
Anonymous wrote:I don't think my son is gifted, but he has incredible executive function skills and loves to work hard. He is a rising second grader and said school was too boring last year and he hopes it is harder next year. Over the summer, he wanted to learn 2nd and 3rd grade math, so we're currently on multiplication and division.
I really feel like he would benefit from being in the AAP program, though his NNAT score was just around 120. What are the chances that a child that is not actually gifted, but interested in working hard and learning, can be placed in the AAP program? My older daughter has learning disabilities, so this is all new to me.
My two older children are merely "bright" certainly not gifted (IQs both below 120) and they are enjoying full time AAP. I can't compare with the regular 3rd grade and up but our experience is that any above average child will do fine in AAP. If you have a great base school with lots of learning opportunities and a high achieving peer group, that will probably be fine too.
Anonymous
07/27/2019 09:17
Subject: Re:Not gifted, but wants to learn
Anonymous wrote:I think the prepping culture is really focused in a few pockets of FCPS. Only a couple of kids went from DC's school to the AAP center and I don't think any of them prepped. It didn't cross my mind at all. The only place I've heard about it is on here.
If only a few kids went to the AAP center, then you're not in a prepping area. The schools that have 25% or higher acceptance into AAP are the ones with rampant prepping. I don't know of anyone who did actual prep classes, but most of the moms I know talked about getting cogat books from amazon, just to "help their kids be familiar with the test format."
Anonymous
07/27/2019 08:29
Subject: Re:Not gifted, but wants to learn
Anonymous wrote:You should parent refer for AAP and see what happens.
+1
Anonymous
07/27/2019 06:04
Subject: Re:Not gifted, but wants to learn
You should parent refer for AAP and see what happens.
Anonymous
07/27/2019 03:19
Subject: Not gifted, but wants to learn
Sign him up for some sports.
Anonymous
07/26/2019 23:41
Subject: Re:Not gifted, but wants to learn
I think the prepping culture is really focused in a few pockets of FCPS. Only a couple of kids went from DC's school to the AAP center and I don't think any of them prepped. It didn't cross my mind at all. The only place I've heard about it is on here.
Anonymous
07/26/2019 23:05
Subject: Re:Not gifted, but wants to learn
Anonymous wrote:I suggest ordering a practice Cogat test on amazon to just get familiar with test. Sounds like your child is borderline.
I have 2 kids in AAP. Both scored high on Cogat and thriving In AAP. I’m sure I will get blasted for prepping or cheating. I think preparing your child for a test is the responsible thing to do, especially if he is borderline. Other parents do it as well although not all would admit it.
We have 2 friends whose kids scored 120ish and not in AAP. They are bright hard workers. I couldn’t help wonder why they didn’t get a damn book beforehand. It would have taken a weekend to go over the book.
Right? Because kids in gen ed don't learn anything. Like, at all.
Anonymous
07/26/2019 22:58
Subject: Not gifted, but wants to learn
DP. I hate the prepping culture, but parents who are determined to have their kids in AAP ought to just go ahead and prep. It would save everyone from all of the angst, and so many people are prepping anyway. If PP’s friends were that upset about their kids being rejected, then it is odd that they were so complacent with the AAP process.
Anonymous
07/26/2019 22:57
Subject: Re:Not gifted, but wants to learn
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I suggest ordering a practice Cogat test on amazon to just get familiar with test. Sounds like your child is borderline.
I have 2 kids in AAP. Both scored high on Cogat and thriving In AAP. I’m sure I will get blasted for prepping or cheating. I think preparing your child for a test is the responsible thing to do, especially if he is borderline. Other parents do it as well although not all would admit it.
We have 2 friends whose kids scored 120ish and not in AAP. They are bright hard workers. I couldn’t help wonder why they didn’t get a damn book beforehand. It would have taken a weekend to go over the book.
Unfathomable? Really?
Both moms kept bringing it up, how they thought their child should be in AAP.
Ah, got it. They've read this forum and take it way too seriously.
Or they are the only ones close enough to talk about it. I would say both these kids seemed smarter than my kids in the classroom. I.e. better readers. Better writers. More outgoing.
I don’t know anyone else’s scores or desire for their kid to be in AAP.
Anonymous
07/26/2019 22:50
Subject: Re:Not gifted, but wants to learn
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I suggest ordering a practice Cogat test on amazon to just get familiar with test. Sounds like your child is borderline.
I have 2 kids in AAP. Both scored high on Cogat and thriving In AAP. I’m sure I will get blasted for prepping or cheating. I think preparing your child for a test is the responsible thing to do, especially if he is borderline. Other parents do it as well although not all would admit it.
We have 2 friends whose kids scored 120ish and not in AAP. They are bright hard workers. I couldn’t help wonder why they didn’t get a damn book beforehand. It would have taken a weekend to go over the book.
Unfathomable? Really?
Both moms kept bringing it up, how they thought their child should be in AAP.
Ah, got it. They've read this forum and take it way too seriously.
Anonymous
07/26/2019 22:48
Subject: Re:Not gifted, but wants to learn
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I suggest ordering a practice Cogat test on amazon to just get familiar with test. Sounds like your child is borderline.
I have 2 kids in AAP. Both scored high on Cogat and thriving In AAP. I’m sure I will get blasted for prepping or cheating. I think preparing your child for a test is the responsible thing to do, especially if he is borderline. Other parents do it as well although not all would admit it.
We have 2 friends whose kids scored 120ish and not in AAP. They are bright hard workers. I couldn’t help wonder why they didn’t get a damn book beforehand. It would have taken a weekend to go over the book.
Unfathomable? Really?
Both moms kept bringing it up, how they thought their child should be in AAP.