Anonymous wrote:What about Oberlin? William & Mary?

We are also looking for a school with an intellectual bent but not a pressure cooker. Is there such a thing?

If your DC is interested in William and Mary and Oberlin, look at Vassar and Bard as well.

Maybe Kenyon too -- great spirit there, very engaged students, but the location is pretty isolated.

Maybe St. John's if your DC has a strong interest in the classics and wants the highly prescriptive, classical core curriculum -- it's truly perfect for some students (DC has a friend going there) and not at all right for others, so a prospective student needs to check it out with care.

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Anonymous wrote:I felt that most people I knew at Middlebury loved learning and supporting their peers.

Perhaps 2-3 decades ago.

Certainly not now.

OP, are you open to going abroad?

I was there one decade ago. Is your certainty based on anything?

Multiple disgusting and anti-intellectual incidents in the last 5 years.

Perpetrated by how many Middlebury students?

What about Oberlin? William & Mary?

We are also looking for a school with an intellectual bent but not a pressure cooker. Is there such a thing?

Anonymous wrote:Columbia.

I think any college that still follows a core curriculum (also Chicago) draws that kind of student.

oh hell no.

Swarthmore

University of Chicago and also Oxford. My DC just spent a year there and it was a truly unique intellectual experience all around - nothing like it in the states.

Columbia.

I think any college that still follows a core curriculum (also Chicago) draws that kind of student.

The students at VCU love to learn. Also agree with U of Chicago.

St. John's and Carleton. I would look at Kenyon and Grinnell.

I doubt PP has any connection to Midd.

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Anonymous wrote:I felt that most people I knew at Middlebury loved learning and supporting their peers.

Perhaps 2-3 decades ago.

Certainly not now.

OP, are you open to going abroad?

I was there one decade ago. Is your certainty based on anything?

Multiple disgusting and anti-intellectual incidents in the last 5 years.

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Anonymous wrote:What are schools where students are the most excited about learning for the sake of learning?

Are you contrasting that with schools where people are most excited about learning for the sake of preparing themselves for a successful career, or do you mean something else? I have a business degree and an engineering degree, so I don't have any familiarity with this "learning for the sake of learning" concept. All of us were just trying to get jobs.

Do you have a passion for something like arts and music with no consideration for remuneration, to play at a club or a bookstore for all the books you can read? That’s music for music’s sake. Or Gregory Perelman, who declined the $1 million prize for proving the Poincaré conjecture. Or Jean-Paul Sartre who declined the Nobel Prize in literature.

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Anonymous wrote:I felt that most people I knew at Middlebury loved learning and supporting their peers.

Perhaps 2-3 decades ago.

Certainly not now.

OP, are you open to going abroad?

I was there one decade ago. Is your certainty based on anything?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What are schools where students are the most excited about learning for the sake of learning?

Are you contrasting that with schools where people are most excited about learning for the sake of preparing themselves for a successful career, or do you mean something else? I have a business degree and an engineering degree, so I don't have any familiarity with this "learning for the sake of learning" concept. All of us were just trying to get jobs.

The concept is learning for learning -- without a pre-professional bent. Appeals to kids with certain disposition, and also to those who know they intend to go directly on to graduate school before working (law, public policy).

Anonymous wrote:I felt that most people I knew at Middlebury loved learning and supporting their peers.

Perhaps 2-3 decades ago.

Certainly not now.

OP, are you open to going abroad?