Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

We have athletes. We will always have athletes. We don't have the culture of the "Beautiful Game" nor the patience for developing it.

What exactly is our plan B when the European Nations begin to match our athleticism? There is a deeper reason Rapinoe sat, because her athleticism is now being easily matched and by more tactically and technically better players. Rose Lavelle is the mode of player we need more of and she looks like a fish out of water on this team and is frankly wasted here.

We can both appreciate the potential achievement of a three-peat but we seem to be ignoring the trajectory of the European teams relative to our own.

Have the European countries been keeping their best athletes at home? Damn nice of them. They must have a crush on Jill Ellis.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

We have athletes. We will always have athletes. We don't have the culture of the "Beautiful Game" nor the patience for developing it.

What exactly is our plan B when the European Nations begin to match our athleticism? There is a deeper reason Rapinoe sat, because her athleticism is now being easily matched and by more tactically and technically better players. Rose Lavelle is the mode of player we need more of and she looks like a fish out of water on this team and is frankly wasted here.

We can both appreciate the potential achievement of a three-peat but we seem to be ignoring the trajectory of the European teams relative to our own.

Have the European countries been keeping their best athletes at home? Damn nice of them. They must have a crush on Jill Ellis.

Anonymous wrote:

We have athletes. We will always have athletes. We don't have the culture of the "Beautiful Game" nor the patience for developing it.

What exactly is our plan B when the European Nations begin to match our athleticism? There is a deeper reason Rapinoe sat, because her athleticism is now being easily matched and by more tactically and technically better players. Rose Lavelle is the mode of player we need more of and she looks like a fish out of water on this team and is frankly wasted here.

We can both appreciate the potential achievement of a three-peat but we seem to be ignoring the trajectory of the European teams relative to our own.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The success of the USWNT will be the biggest dagger to the heart of US Soccer since the USMNT failed to qualify for the WC. The reason is that if the women win, and they probably will, it will further enable US Soccer to live in the delusion that they know what they are doing. This WWC has revealed several things:
1. The gap has closed. The US women have been outplayed in several games, and other teams probably feel the way NFL fans feel when their team has to play the Patriots: calls and good fortune have been on the US's side.
2. Defense sucks. Our defense I mean. Our CBs are a disaster, and it is the case on both the men's and women's sides. We get away with poor marking consistently, and US Soccer puts little to no emphasis on defense in its courses.
3. Shooting. How many goals have the women's players' skied? We kid ourselves into thinking we play " possession" style ( we don't) , and we will walk the ball in. The women are dreadfully inefficient at volleys and, since we outlaw headers for some ridiculous reason at the youth level, that will cost us too.
4. Coaching- Ellis is a bad coach with great players. She can't sub, she disrupts chemistry, she cannot deal with angry players. Press is a better player than Rapinoe- sorry. She should have been on all along and was only in today due to "injury". That bit of luck saved Ellis. Rapinoe doesn't have the pace to be where Press was when Press scored.
Had the women lost to Spain, as they probably should have, it may have forced changes in US Soccer. Since the women will probably win, US Soccer can point at them and say " See ? We DO know what we are doing?" And play the tired old "The best US athletes play other sports" card. Success sometimes fails, and this is one of those times

So, one one hand, the team has been outplayed in several games, the defense sucks, the center backs are a disaster, we don;t mark, we can't shoot, we can't play a possession game, and they also can't volley?

But on the other hand, they have "great players?"

Internally inconsistent. Make up your mind, OP.

Anonymous wrote:The success of the USWNT will be the biggest dagger to the heart of US Soccer since the USMNT failed to qualify for the WC. The reason is that if the women win, and they probably will, it will further enable US Soccer to live in the delusion that they know what they are doing. This WWC has revealed several things:
1. The gap has closed. The US women have been outplayed in several games, and other teams probably feel the way NFL fans feel when their team has to play the Patriots: calls and good fortune have been on the US's side.
2. Defense sucks. Our defense I mean. Our CBs are a disaster, and it is the case on both the men's and women's sides. We get away with poor marking consistently, and US Soccer puts little to no emphasis on defense in its courses.
3. Shooting. How many goals have the women's players' skied? We kid ourselves into thinking we play " possession" style ( we don't) , and we will walk the ball in. The women are dreadfully inefficient at volleys and, since we outlaw headers for some ridiculous reason at the youth level, that will cost us too.
4. Coaching- Ellis is a bad coach with great players. She can't sub, she disrupts chemistry, she cannot deal with angry players. Press is a better player than Rapinoe- sorry. She should have been on all along and was only in today due to "injury". That bit of luck saved Ellis. Rapinoe doesn't have the pace to be where Press was when Press scored.
Had the women lost to Spain, as they probably should have, it may have forced changes in US Soccer. Since the women will probably win, US Soccer can point at them and say " See ? We DO know what we are doing?" And play the tired old "The best US athletes play other sports" card. Success sometimes fails, and this is one of those times

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
So many fans of women’s soccer are fans of the women who play soccer. It’s a oh look at what these women are doing. They are great role models, etc. Its more about feminism vs soccer. There is also a big following in the LGBT(more lesbian like the WNBA). So any criticism is seen as an attack. As soccer fans start paying attention they will ask questions about the coaching and players...that is what sports fans do. If you says Rapinoe is over the hill. They see it as you attacking a well known outspoken lesbian. For those who watch a lot of soccer, she fails the eye test.

The US style of play is outdated but will win if you have better players. Youth travel soccer does not select kids who can pass accurately and see the field well. The current team is a product of that system. Every once and a while you will get someone like Lavelle make it through. You saw what happened when Lavalle came out of the game. The English midfield took over. Now if Lavelle was in England, France, Germany, etc. she would be a much better player. Just playing around better technical players ups your game.

Not a lesbian, not a feminist, not even a woman, heck not even much of a women's soccer fan. It's just that the posts from these "sophisticated" observers are so damn inane. Do you even listen to your own observations? The OP thinks winning the World Cup will be a dagger through the heart of US Soccer and that failing to qualify to the World Cup was also a dagger through the heart of US Soccer. One has to assume this observer would find a way to characterize every outcome in between the same way.

You guys do realize you are commenting on a team that has made it to three straight World Cup finals? Do you get the significance of that and how your streams of criticism seem to lack perspective? Do you realize the coach is a defending World Cup champion? Should she be pre-emptively fired in your view. You are far from the first to observe that the playing style under current coach is not the most appealing. Maybe the next coach will bring out "the beautiful game" which will be nicer to watch. Will they be able to bring a team that is as physically and mentally game ready?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
So many fans of women’s soccer are fans of the women who play soccer. It’s a oh look at what these women are doing. They are great role models, etc. Its more about feminism vs soccer. There is also a big following in the LGBT(more lesbian like the WNBA). So any criticism is seen as an attack. As soccer fans start paying attention they will ask questions about the coaching and players...that is what sports fans do. If you says Rapinoe is over the hill. They see it as you attacking a well known outspoken lesbian. For those who watch a lot of soccer, she fails the eye test.

The US style of play is outdated but will win if you have better players. Youth travel soccer does not select kids who can pass accurately and see the field well. The current team is a product of that system. Every once and a while you will get someone like Lavelle make it through. You saw what happened when Lavalle came out of the game. The English midfield took over. Now if Lavelle was in England, France, Germany, etc. she would be a much better player. Just playing around better technical players ups your game.

Not a lesbian, not a feminist, not even a woman, heck not even much of a women's soccer fan. It's just that the posts from these "sophisticated" observers are so damn inane. Do you even listen to your own observations? The OP thinks winning the World Cup will be a dagger through the heart of US Soccer and that failing to qualify to the World Cup was also a dagger through the heart of US Soccer. One has to assume this observer would find a way to characterize every outcome in between the same way.

You guys do realize you are commenting on a team that has made it to three straight World Cup finals? Do you get the significance of that and how your streams of criticism seem to lack perspective? Do you realize the coach is a defending World Cup champion? Should she be pre-emptively fired in your view. You are far from the first to observe that the playing style under current coach is not the most appealing. Maybe the next coach will bring out "the beautiful game" which will be nicer to watch. Will they be able to bring a team that is as physically and mentally game ready?

Anonymous wrote:
So many fans of women’s soccer are fans of the women who play soccer. It’s a oh look at what these women are doing. They are great role models, etc. Its more about feminism vs soccer. There is also a big following in the LGBT(more lesbian like the WNBA). So any criticism is seen as an attack. As soccer fans start paying attention they will ask questions about the coaching and players...that is what sports fans do. If you says Rapinoe is over the hill. They see it as you attacking a well known outspoken lesbian. For those who watch a lot of soccer, she fails the eye test.

The US style of play is outdated but will win if you have better players. Youth travel soccer does not select kids who can pass accurately and see the field well. The current team is a product of that system. Every once and a while you will get someone like Lavelle make it through. You saw what happened when Lavalle came out of the game. The English midfield took over. Now if Lavelle was in England, France, Germany, etc. she would be a much better player. Just playing around better technical players ups your game.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I used to kind of like this forum, but no more. Too many negative posters that even when we win still post negative, clueless crap. Negative about US socccer, negative about DC metro soccer, negative about other’s kids, and negative about their own sad pathetic lives.

I am the OP. This is a soccer forum. I posted my observations about the USWNT. I was hoping people would agree or disagree and we could discuss. Instead, I had people react as though I were a sexist monster, make ridiculous assumptions about my life, and decry me as a doom and gloomer. I mean, I made simple observations! These absurdly over the top reactions are hypocritical and self incriminating. I have a stake in this game, and I hate the way it looks on the men's side and don't think the women's side looks good. It is as simple as that. Lol

So many fans of women’s soccer are fans of the women who play soccer. It’s a oh look at what these women are doing. They are great role models, etc. Its more about feminism vs soccer. There is also a big following in the LGBT(more lesbian like the WNBA). So any criticism is seen as an attack. As soccer fans start paying attention they will ask questions about the coaching and players...that is what sports fans do. If you says Rapinoe is over the hill. They see it as you attacking a well known outspoken lesbian. For those who watch a lot of soccer, she fails the eye test.

The US style of play is outdated but will win if you have better players. Youth travel soccer does not select kids who can pass accurately and see the field well. The current team is a product of that system. Every once and a while you will get someone like Lavelle make it through. You saw what happened when Lavalle came out of the game. The English midfield took over. Now if Lavelle was in England, France, Germany, etc. she would be a much better player. Just playing around better technical players ups your game.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I used to kind of like this forum, but no more. Too many negative posters that even when we win still post negative, clueless crap. Negative about US socccer, negative about DC metro soccer, negative about other’s kids, and negative about their own sad pathetic lives.

I am the OP. This is a soccer forum. I posted my observations about the USWNT. I was hoping people would agree or disagree and we could discuss. Instead, I had people react as though I were a sexist monster, make ridiculous assumptions about my life, and decry me as a doom and gloomer. I mean, I made simple observations! These absurdly over the top reactions are hypocritical and self incriminating. I have a stake in this game, and I hate the way it looks on the men's side and don't think the women's side looks good. It is as simple as that. Lol

Anonymous wrote:I hope the USWNT wins. They are not the darlings of the USSF especially after suing the Federation for equal pay. Their success is a blow to the status quo and gives them more leverage against the USSF. If they fail, it won't force the changes for the better. The men's team to qualify for the WC did not make the USSF make any meaningful changes so I don't think that a loss by USWNT in the WC would cause the change.

Anonymous wrote:The success of the USWNT will be the biggest dagger to the heart of US Soccer since the USMNT failed to qualify for the WC. The reason is that if the women win, and they probably will, it will further enable US Soccer to live in the delusion that they know what they are doing. This WWC has revealed several things:
1. The gap has closed. The US women have been outplayed in several games, and other teams probably feel the way NFL fans feel when their team has to play the Patriots: calls and good fortune have been on the US's side.
2. Defense sucks. Our defense I mean. Our CBs are a disaster, and it is the case on both the men's and women's sides. We get away with poor marking consistently, and US Soccer puts little to no emphasis on defense in its courses.
3. Shooting. How many goals have the women's players' skied? We kid ourselves into thinking we play " possession" style ( we don't) , and we will walk the ball in. The women are dreadfully inefficient at volleys and, since we outlaw headers for some ridiculous reason at the youth level, that will cost us too.
4. Coaching- Ellis is a bad coach with great players. She can't sub, she disrupts chemistry, she cannot deal with angry players. Press is a better player than Rapinoe- sorry. She should have been on all along and was only in today due to "injury". That bit of luck saved Ellis. Rapinoe doesn't have the pace to be where Press was when Press scored.
Had the women lost to Spain, as they probably should have, it may have forced changes in US Soccer. Since the women will probably win, US Soccer can point at them and say " See ? We DO know what we are doing?" And play the tired old "The best US athletes play other sports" card. Success sometimes fails, and this is one of those times

Anonymous wrote:I used to kind of like this forum, but no more. Too many negative posters that even when we win still post negative, clueless crap. Negative about US socccer, negative about DC metro soccer, negative about other’s kids, and negative about their own sad pathetic lives.