Anonymous wrote:Here is a powerpoint presentation given to the committee that selected CES students last year. https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/curriculum/specialprograms/elementary/CES%20Selection.PDF

Note the purpose of the program:

"Purpose of Program:
Although many students would benefit from a
selective magnet program experience, the
intent of the program is to serve students who
lack an academic cohort in their home school. "

The purpose is to serve kids who need it.

The kids who need a challenging programs are those that score super high -- tippy top in the cachement area, not the kids who score above average. Peer cohort doesn't mean much without a challenging program.

Anonymous wrote:SMH.

Cannot make a silk purse out of a sow's ear!

Montgomery County is going the way of Prince Georges.

Black and hispanic children aren't sow's ears.

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Anonymous wrote:You should understand that this right here is why they changed the admission criteria last year.

MCPS took the identification of candidates and the application process out of parents' hands because parents were manipulating it this way by trying to find out what is on the test and giving their children unfair advance knowledge of it. Now, the test for CES is much shorter and counts for less weight. This is entirely because the county wants to serve children who truly need it, not children whose parents gave them the answers.

Nonsense.

OK, why do you think they changed the criteria last year?

DP.. not enough URM kids, per the METIS report. Cohort criteria was the only way they could change the demographics.

See now I think that's the same thing. There weren't enough URM kids because the Asian and white parents were prepping their kids and the URM weren't. No?

No. Not all Asian/White kids prepped. And not all URM did not prep. How many Asian/white kids prepped? I don't know, and neither do you or MCPS.

The one DC who got in did not prep for HGC. I think I got DC a cogat book to study in 8th grade for HS magnet.

The other DC I got a cogat book for CES.

The first DC got into both magnets. The second DC did not get into CES. The first DC has always been academically advanced. The second DC not so much.

Moral of the story: no amount of prepping will help if the kid doesn't have the acumen.

I don't think prepping is wrong. You will most certainly have your DC prep for ACT/SAT/AP etc... Prepping = preparing for a test. No one would say never prepare for a test.

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Anonymous wrote:You should understand that this right here is why they changed the admission criteria last year.

MCPS took the identification of candidates and the application process out of parents' hands because parents were manipulating it this way by trying to find out what is on the test and giving their children unfair advance knowledge of it. Now, the test for CES is much shorter and counts for less weight. This is entirely because the county wants to serve children who truly need it, not children whose parents gave them the answers.

Nonsense.

OK, why do you think they changed the criteria last year?

DP.. not enough URM kids, per the METIS report. Cohort criteria was the only way they could change the demographics.

See now I think that's the same thing. There weren't enough URM kids because the Asian and white parents were prepping their kids and the URM weren't. No?

Here is a powerpoint presentation given to the committee that selected CES students last year. https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/curriculum/specialprograms/elementary/CES%20Selection.PDF

Note the purpose of the program:

"Purpose of Program:
Although many students would benefit from a
selective magnet program experience, the
intent of the program is to serve students who
lack an academic cohort in their home school. "

The purpose is to serve kids who need it.

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Anonymous wrote:You should understand that this right here is why they changed the admission criteria last year.

MCPS took the identification of candidates and the application process out of parents' hands because parents were manipulating it this way by trying to find out what is on the test and giving their children unfair advance knowledge of it. Now, the test for CES is much shorter and counts for less weight. This is entirely because the county wants to serve children who truly need it, not children whose parents gave them the answers.

Nonsense.

OK, why do you think they changed the criteria last year?

DP.. not enough URM kids, per the METIS report. Cohort criteria was the only way they could change the demographics.

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Anonymous wrote:You should understand that this right here is why they changed the admission criteria last year.

MCPS took the identification of candidates and the application process out of parents' hands because parents were manipulating it this way by trying to find out what is on the test and giving their children unfair advance knowledge of it. Now, the test for CES is much shorter and counts for less weight. This is entirely because the county wants to serve children who truly need it, not children whose parents gave them the answers.

They changed criteria because people were drinking beer, doing drugs and were not using birth control?

Are you the polar bear/lemming poster? Because neither of these responses made any sense to me.

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Anonymous wrote:You should understand that this right here is why they changed the admission criteria last year.

MCPS took the identification of candidates and the application process out of parents' hands because parents were manipulating it this way by trying to find out what is on the test and giving their children unfair advance knowledge of it. Now, the test for CES is much shorter and counts for less weight. This is entirely because the county wants to serve children who truly need it, not children whose parents gave them the answers.

Nonsense.

OK, why do you think they changed the criteria last year?

Anonymous wrote:You should understand that this right here is why they changed the admission criteria last year.

MCPS took the identification of candidates and the application process out of parents' hands because parents were manipulating it this way by trying to find out what is on the test and giving their children unfair advance knowledge of it. Now, the test for CES is much shorter and counts for less weight. This is entirely because the county wants to serve children who truly need it, not children whose parents gave them the answers.

They changed criteria because people were drinking beer, doing drugs and were not using birth control?

Anonymous wrote:You should understand that this right here is why they changed the admission criteria last year.

MCPS took the identification of candidates and the application process out of parents' hands because parents were manipulating it this way by trying to find out what is on the test and giving their children unfair advance knowledge of it. Now, the test for CES is much shorter and counts for less weight. This is entirely because the county wants to serve children who truly need it, not children whose parents gave them the answers.

Please teach your kids to do well on their own hardwork and merit. Do not teach them to be beggars and expect unfair handouts. That won't cut it in the real world.

Also, please take responsibility for your own life choices. When you shit on your kids by being irresponsible, the world does not owe you to take care of your kids. You are not a polar bear or an endangered whale that we must save you and your kin. Human race is not on the verge of extinction. They are the cause of extinction of many species and the shit that Earth is in currently. So try and be a good human being and do your part as a parent and a world citizen. If not, you can always follow the other lemmings.

Anonymous wrote:You should understand that this right here is why they changed the admission criteria last year.

MCPS took the identification of candidates and the application process out of parents' hands because parents were manipulating it this way by trying to find out what is on the test and giving their children unfair advance knowledge of it. Now, the test for CES is much shorter and counts for less weight. This is entirely because the county wants to serve children who truly need it, not children whose parents gave them the answers.

Nonsense.

You should understand that this right here is why they changed the admission criteria last year.

MCPS took the identification of candidates and the application process out of parents' hands because parents were manipulating it this way by trying to find out what is on the test and giving their children unfair advance knowledge of it. Now, the test for CES is much shorter and counts for less weight. This is entirely because the county wants to serve children who truly need it, not children whose parents gave them the answers.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid got in to both Blair and RM with no prep. In her circle of friends there is one kid who prepped. Not so much just for the tests but did outside classes every year.

Was your child already in a magnet MS program or a W school?

My kid got into both magnets without prep. And without being at a magnet middle school. Don't make your kids prep. It sends them the wrong message. Have them spend their time doing things that are interesting to them. Art, music, time in nature, sports, creative projects (wood-working, machine-building, what have you.) All those things are also good for the brain, and helps develop your kid as a whole person.

My kid did prep and has been in magnet programs throughout. He also does art, music, sports, scholastic competitions, community service, lots of nature projects and outreach. He also plays online video games. Very similar to most of his peers at the magnet programs. I agree - these things are good for the brain and helps to develop the kid as a whole person.

One thing that no one talks about here is that you also must have a stable home life for your child and instill good values. Make your child work hard so that do not expect handouts. Do not have a household where abuse, adultery and addiction takes a hold. Associate with good and moral people. Have a solid marriage so that your kid can have a strong support system at home. Do not be frivolous with money and be careful in how you spend. This way you can also give financial security to your child. Don't let the TV and internet be the babysitter. You need to spend quality and quantity time with your child.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid got in to both Blair and RM with no prep. In her circle of friends there is one kid who prepped. Not so much just for the tests but did outside classes every year.

Was your child already in a magnet MS program or a W school?

Neither...she went to a HGC..back home MS (did not apply due to logistics)..and then magnet HS