Anonymous wrote:I am not a jerk, just honest. Today's ninny mothers twist themselves into knots over the smallest, inconsequential risks, but don't pay attention to the fact that it is an intact family that kids need.

Stop embarrassing yourself, PP.

Anonymous wrote:I am not a jerk, just honest. Today's ninny mothers twist themselves into knots over the smallest, inconsequential risks, but don't pay attention to the fact that it is an intact family that kids need.

Implying pp is divorced and married a loser just because she was small about what she ate is just as jerky as subtly implying that anyone who doesn't follow the guidelines doesn't love their kids.

I am not a jerk, just honest. Today's ninny mothers twist themselves into knots over the smallest, inconsequential risks, but don't pay attention to the fact that it is an intact family that kids need.

Anonymous wrote:Read Expecting Better. Most of the restrictions are based on a terrible risk assessment. Wear gloves when you garden and don't eat expired over-easy eggs from the gas station, you'll be fine.

Don't pump your own gas. I learned this from a firefighter when I was pregnant and my scientist/chemist PhD father died and it cost 18K to have special scientists go through his lab in his garage. He told me my dad had everything so well labeled and controlled, it was safer for me to be in the garage than to pump gas...that got the conversation started. You don't want to inhale the fumes.

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Anonymous wrote:100%. I was afraid of doing anything that could hurt the baby.

It’s not a big deal to avoid anything for a year.

Ok, mommy martyr. Problem is it doesn't matter.

Know what does? Giving your child a great father and never divorcing. But most of you don't do that.

Huh? My child has a great father and we have a great marriage which is not dependent on my eating or not eating sushi for a year.

And how can I be a martyr when I clearly stated it was not a big deal to abstain from those foods?


You have your own issues, PP, that have nothing to do with my pregnancy.

Pp is clearly a jerk but you are too. Your first pp had a clear judgy tone going along with it.

I continued eating sashimi for all of my pregnancies.

Anonymous wrote:Besides avoiding alcohol and more than 200mg per day of caffeine, I ate whatever I wanted. All the other common "forbidden foods" I just used common sense which pretty much meant avoiding foods that I would avoid anyway, pregnant or not (no sushi from questionable sellers ie gas station, no potato salad at a summer BBQ that had been sitting out for a long time, no unwashed fruits/vegetables etc)

This is how I handle it too. With #1 I followed all the recommendations, but was grumpy about it because some of them seemed more cultural than based in real risk assessment. This time I'm just following my basic logic to avoid food poisoning. I don't eat sushi, lunch meats, or unpasteurized cheese very much anyway, so if I'm at a party or event where they are served I don't sweat it.

Could probably be better about avoiding bagged/boxed aalad greens, but I'm having so much trouble eating enough vegetables that there is a health cost to cutting those out too.

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Anonymous wrote:I have diet controlled GD since 12 weeks and you better believe I've been eating my fair share of cold cuts because my diet is extremely limited. I drink coffee, try to limit it to 2-3 cups. A small glass of wine now that I'm further along every once in a while. Tons and tons of runny eggs--yum. I dont eat fish but if i did, I'd avoid the high mercury ones. I do avoid prepackaged salads, and salads containing romain though occassionally it is unavoidable because again, I'm pretty salad reliant because of GD. I eat only hard cheeses but don't care if they are pasteurized or not. Most listeria cheese outbreaks in recent past were from incorrectly pasteurized soft cheese. Sprouts are on my no list as well.

Thanks for all the insight PPs! To this poster with GD at 12 weeks. How did you know you had GD that early? I had GD with my first but didn’t think about starting a GD diet this early.

I had it my first pregnancy diagnosed at 28 weeks. This time they recommended a glucose challenge at 16 or as early as 12 weeks. I chose 12 and failed. I skipped the 3 hour and went right to fasting and post meal blood sugar checks. It has been much more difficult to handle this time around. I have cut out most carbs at this point including lots of fruit and legumes. So I honestly don't sweat a lot of the other dietary restrictions because my diet is pretty limited. Plus at my practice they are pretty low key and say avoid fish with high metal content and food that has been out long or that you dont trust. It is all about risk management. I read the saddest article once about a woman who got listeria from pasteurized cheese whose baby died. It was so sad but so eye opening of you can really get listeria from anything, even things that are supposedly ok to eat in pregnancy. First time I was pregnant there was a listeria recall in sunflower seeds! I mean.... come on. It is all about risk assessment. You put yourself at more risk if you get in a car every day.

Besides avoiding alcohol and more than 200mg per day of caffeine, I ate whatever I wanted. All the other common "forbidden foods" I just used common sense which pretty much meant avoiding foods that I would avoid anyway, pregnant or not (no sushi from questionable sellers ie gas station, no potato salad at a summer BBQ that had been sitting out for a long time, no unwashed fruits/vegetables etc)

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Anonymous wrote:100%. I was afraid of doing anything that could hurt the baby.

It’s not a big deal to avoid anything for a year.

Ok, mommy martyr. Problem is it doesn't matter.

Know what does? Giving your child a great father and never divorcing. But most of you don't do that.

Huh? My child has a great father and we have a great marriage which is not dependent on my eating or not eating sushi for a year.

And how can I be a martyr when I clearly stated it was not a big deal to abstain from those foods?


You have your own issues, PP, that have nothing to do with my pregnancy.

Anonymous wrote:100%. I was afraid of doing anything that could hurt the baby.

It’s not a big deal to avoid anything for a year.

Ok, mommy martyr. Problem is it doesn't matter.

Know what does? Giving your child a great father and never divorcing. But most of you don't do that.

100%. I was afraid of doing anything that could hurt the baby.

It’s not a big deal to avoid anything for a year.

Working at the world bank when I first got pregnant was helpful in my following all th strict rules. When I learned japanese women don’t stop eating sushi, Brazilian women allow themselves a glass of wine a day, etc. i decided I didn’t need to give up sushi. I ate sushi all the time, but only at my neighborhood place that is pretty high quality. I didn’t drink or have coffee/caffeine.

Anonymous wrote:I have diet controlled GD since 12 weeks and you better believe I've been eating my fair share of cold cuts because my diet is extremely limited. I drink coffee, try to limit it to 2-3 cups. A small glass of wine now that I'm further along every once in a while. Tons and tons of runny eggs--yum. I dont eat fish but if i did, I'd avoid the high mercury ones. I do avoid prepackaged salads, and salads containing romain though occassionally it is unavoidable because again, I'm pretty salad reliant because of GD. I eat only hard cheeses but don't care if they are pasteurized or not. Most listeria cheese outbreaks in recent past were from incorrectly pasteurized soft cheese. Sprouts are on my no list as well.

Thanks for all the insight PPs! To this poster with GD at 12 weeks. How did you know you had GD that early? I had GD with my first but didn’t think about starting a GD diet this early.

I have diet controlled GD since 12 weeks and you better believe I've been eating my fair share of cold cuts because my diet is extremely limited. I drink coffee, try to limit it to 2-3 cups. A small glass of wine now that I'm further along every once in a while. Tons and tons of runny eggs--yum. I dont eat fish but if i did, I'd avoid the high mercury ones. I do avoid prepackaged salads, and salads containing romain though occassionally it is unavoidable because again, I'm pretty salad reliant because of GD. I eat only hard cheeses but don't care if they are pasteurized or not. Most listeria cheese outbreaks in recent past were from incorrectly pasteurized soft cheese. Sprouts are on my no list as well.