Anonymous
Post 06/30/2019 23:26     Subject: Teen boy trying LSD

This reminds me back in 1994 when we had to lock SL up in the closet under the basement stairs because she was on a bad trip and was saying she was dying and we needed to call 911. Nope , SL, in the closet you go! We let her out for accompanied bathroom breaks.

She was grateful that we didn't entertain her antics. Would have been bad for all of us and a buzz kill.

No advice. Sorry.
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2019 11:07     Subject: Teen boy trying LSD

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Obviously therapy. But, LSD is not addictive. So you should probably be more worried about smoking cigarettes and alcohol.


I guess I’m old school. But smoking and drinking has been tried and true for hundreds of years and was what the upper classes did before anti anxiety drugs were more prevalent. Dropping acid seems a lot scarier to me.

+1.
Acid is way more dangerous that tobacco and alcohol since it influences one's brain so much more! And bad trips can screw you up so badly you'll be sorry you tried the stuff.
OP, tell your son explicitly to stay away from LSD, if he wants to keep his sanity.


Omg. please read a book. Cigarettes cause cancer, and alcohol causes countless deaths and ruined lives. although I would be unhappy if my teen took LSD, it’s nowhere near as destructive. it’s one of the least toxic drugs out there.


A couple years of smoking cigarettes has next to no long term implications for your health. I smoked for some years in college/early 20s and quit and so did many of my friends and we're all fine. If I had a choice between a kid abusing alcohol or harder drugs, including marijuana regularly, and smoking for five or six years, or even ten years, I'd go with the cigarettes. Cigarettes don't cause car accidents. Cigarettes don't screw up your brains. Cigarettes don't make you jump out of the window on a trip. They screw up your lungs but those with lung cancer smoked for decades and decades. The trick is quitting smoking, which as I do know first hand is not easy and I do regret ever smoking to start with. But if you quit, which most smokers do, it's the lesser of the vice evils. Look around at all the beggars on the streets, clearly screwed out of their minds. They didn't get that way smoking. But they sure did through alcohol and hard drugs, including substantial marijuana abuse.


Anonymous
Post 06/30/2019 08:26     Subject: Teen boy trying LSD

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Obviously therapy. But, LSD is not addictive. So you should probably be more worried about smoking cigarettes and alcohol.


Trigger warning
A woman I know said her brother’s psychotic break happened after a drug of this sort taken during teen years. He is middle aged schizophrenic now. Not sure I this caused it but what I was told.
My half brother went from pot to mean to opioids to heroin. Rehab repeatedly. Still living age 31. But my stepmother says she worries daily if she will get “the call.”
Mom to 2 teens
One has smoked pot as young teen once or twice (as did I) hope never goes further would be proactive if so
No judgment be aware


My brother was your half brother. Same exact pattern of drug use. He killed himself at 41. We came from a stable, loving two parent family. Solidly middle class.

I am petrified to parent teens.
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2019 07:56     Subject: Teen boy trying LSD

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Obviously therapy. But, LSD is not addictive. So you should probably be more worried about smoking cigarettes and alcohol.


I guess I’m old school. But smoking and drinking has been tried and true for hundreds of years and was what the upper classes did before anti anxiety drugs were more prevalent. Dropping acid seems a lot scarier to me.


Cigarettes and booze kill so many more people - there's no comparison. LSD is not addictive and is generally something people do once or twice. I would still be concerned and want to know what's going on, but engaging in Reefer Madness type hysteria is not useful.


Call me crazy but I don’t think a teen is well equipped to handle things like hallucinations. It’s not “hysteria,” it’s rightful concern.


like I said, I would be concerned, but it’s important to keep perspective. I would be much more concerned about a kid getting blackout drunk or smoking cigarettes.
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2019 05:45     Subject: Teen boy trying LSD

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Obviously therapy. But, LSD is not addictive. So you should probably be more worried about smoking cigarettes and alcohol.


I guess I’m old school. But smoking and drinking has been tried and true for hundreds of years and was what the upper classes did before anti anxiety drugs were more prevalent. Dropping acid seems a lot scarier to me.


Cigarettes and booze kill so many more people - there's no comparison. LSD is not addictive and is generally something people do once or twice. I would still be concerned and want to know what's going on, but engaging in Reefer Madness type hysteria is not useful.


Call me crazy but I don’t think a teen is well equipped to handle things like hallucinations. It’s not “hysteria,” it’s rightful concern.
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2019 01:10     Subject: Re:Teen boy trying LSD

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does he go to a W school.

While I find all schools have vaping/alcohol/marijuana issues.

Lots of acid at W schools and rehoboth/Bethany.


Oh FFS. You're ridiculous. Acid has been everywhere since, oh, 1960ish.
OP, I'm trying to think what would have worked on me when I was doing the same thing at 16. Serious, consistent punishment--no freedom. Therapy. And I'd see if you could find some kind of month-long summer program of some sort...officially therapeutic or otherwise. My mom sent me away to a performing arts program that, while it didn't curb my well-established drug use, did result in me changing my group of loser friends when I came back.

My parents also weren't consistent with any kind of punishment. Maybe things would have been different if they'd actually taken away my car and phone and truly grounded me. And put me in therapy.


No it's not everywhere... This is not the 60's.

I'm sorry you never got the right therapy. It's not too late.
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2019 22:03     Subject: Teen boy trying LSD

Pot to meth (phone)
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2019 22:02     Subject: Teen boy trying LSD

Anonymous wrote:Obviously therapy. But, LSD is not addictive. So you should probably be more worried about smoking cigarettes and alcohol.


Trigger warning
A woman I know said her brother’s psychotic break happened after a drug of this sort taken during teen years. He is middle aged schizophrenic now. Not sure I this caused it but what I was told.
My half brother went from pot to mean to opioids to heroin. Rehab repeatedly. Still living age 31. But my stepmother says she worries daily if she will get “the call.”
Mom to 2 teens
One has smoked pot as young teen once or twice (as did I) hope never goes further would be proactive if so
No judgment be aware
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2019 21:57     Subject: Re:Teen boy trying LSD

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does he go to a W school.

While I find all schools have vaping/alcohol/marijuana issues.

Lots of acid at W schools and rehoboth/Bethany.


Oh FFS. You're ridiculous. Acid has been everywhere since, oh, 1960ish.
OP, I'm trying to think what would have worked on me when I was doing the same thing at 16. Serious, consistent punishment--no freedom. Therapy. And I'd see if you could find some kind of month-long summer program of some sort...officially therapeutic or otherwise. My mom sent me away to a performing arts program that, while it didn't curb my well-established drug use, did result in me changing my group of loser friends when I came back.

My parents also weren't consistent with any kind of punishment. Maybe things would have been different if they'd actually taken away my car and phone and truly grounded me. And put me in therapy.


I was the acid-dropping teen too, and I needed therapy because of trauma and my parents were terrible, not because of acid.

btw, I did acid and shrooms a handful of times, but never smoked or drank. I would much prefer my kid follow in my footsteps than do the drinking/vaping that is apparently deemed less scary.
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2019 21:52     Subject: Re:Teen boy trying LSD

Anonymous wrote:Does he go to a W school.

While I find all schools have vaping/alcohol/marijuana issues.

Lots of acid at W schools and rehoboth/Bethany.


Oh FFS. You're ridiculous. Acid has been everywhere since, oh, 1960ish.
OP, I'm trying to think what would have worked on me when I was doing the same thing at 16. Serious, consistent punishment--no freedom. Therapy. And I'd see if you could find some kind of month-long summer program of some sort...officially therapeutic or otherwise. My mom sent me away to a performing arts program that, while it didn't curb my well-established drug use, did result in me changing my group of loser friends when I came back.

My parents also weren't consistent with any kind of punishment. Maybe things would have been different if they'd actually taken away my car and phone and truly grounded me. And put me in therapy.
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2019 20:11     Subject: Teen boy trying LSD

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Obviously therapy. But, LSD is not addictive. So you should probably be more worried about smoking cigarettes and alcohol.


I guess I’m old school. But smoking and drinking has been tried and true for hundreds of years and was what the upper classes did before anti anxiety drugs were more prevalent. Dropping acid seems a lot scarier to me.


Cigarettes and booze kill so many more people - there's no comparison. LSD is not addictive and is generally something people do once or twice. I would still be concerned and want to know what's going on, but engaging in Reefer Madness type hysteria is not useful.


No, it's not generally something people do once or twice.




I think she means if someone tries acid they are likely to do it just one or two times. Which is probably right. The kid who drops tons of acid and shrooms is definitely the outlier. But everyone probably knows of one. So not totally rare either
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2019 19:48     Subject: Teen boy trying LSD

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Obviously therapy. But, LSD is not addictive. So you should probably be more worried about smoking cigarettes and alcohol.


I guess I’m old school. But smoking and drinking has been tried and true for hundreds of years and was what the upper classes did before anti anxiety drugs were more prevalent. Dropping acid seems a lot scarier to me.

+1.
Acid is way more dangerous that tobacco and alcohol since it influences one's brain so much more! And bad trips can screw you up so badly you'll be sorry you tried the stuff.
OP, tell your son explicitly to stay away from LSD, if he wants to keep his sanity.


Omg. please read a book. Cigarettes cause cancer, and alcohol causes countless deaths and ruined lives. although I would be unhappy if my teen took LSD, it’s nowhere near as destructive. it’s one of the least toxic drugs out there.
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2019 19:36     Subject: Teen boy trying LSD

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Obviously therapy. But, LSD is not addictive. So you should probably be more worried about smoking cigarettes and alcohol.


I guess I’m old school. But smoking and drinking has been tried and true for hundreds of years and was what the upper classes did before anti anxiety drugs were more prevalent. Dropping acid seems a lot scarier to me.

+1.
Acid is way more dangerous that tobacco and alcohol since it influences one's brain so much more! And bad trips can screw you up so badly you'll be sorry you tried the stuff.
OP, tell your son explicitly to stay away from LSD, if he wants to keep his sanity.
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2019 12:35     Subject: Teen boy trying LSD

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Obviously therapy. But, LSD is not addictive. So you should probably be more worried about smoking cigarettes and alcohol.


I guess I’m old school. But smoking and drinking has been tried and true for hundreds of years and was what the upper classes did before anti anxiety drugs were more prevalent. Dropping acid seems a lot scarier to me.


Cigarettes and booze kill so many more people - there's no comparison. LSD is not addictive and is generally something people do once or twice. I would still be concerned and want to know what's going on, but engaging in Reefer Madness type hysteria is not useful.


You sound uniformed. Cigarettes don't affect your cognition, and alcohol is served in standardized units so it doesn't take much experience to know how it affects you. There is no way, no way, I would allow a teen to try LSD. Especially at a sleepover. Where is it from? What's actually in it? How will it affect him? What's the plan if someone freaks out or gets dangerous (in college a friend lost her cousin when he stepped out of a window after dropping acid. Completely unexpected). Also, there is increasing data that marijuana is dangerous for teenage brains and puts them at increased risk for developing psychosis later. We know this now because they actually studying it. Just because there is limited data on the effects of LSD on teen brains doesn't mean it is harmless.

Anonymous
Post 06/29/2019 11:52     Subject: Teen boy trying LSD

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Obviously therapy. But, LSD is not addictive. So you should probably be more worried about smoking cigarettes and alcohol.


I guess I’m old school. But smoking and drinking has been tried and true for hundreds of years and was what the upper classes did before anti anxiety drugs were more prevalent. Dropping acid seems a lot scarier to me.


Cigarettes and booze kill so many more people - there's no comparison. LSD is not addictive and is generally something people do once or twice. I would still be concerned and want to know what's going on, but engaging in Reefer Madness type hysteria is not useful.


No, it's not generally something people do once or twice.