Anonymous
Post 06/27/2019 18:18     Subject: Re:Is a good atheist better then a bad christian?
If you kindly look up definition of religion you will see that one of the meanings is defined as:

a pursuit or interest to which someone ascribes supreme importance.

So.. is atheism religion or not? Certainly many atheists I know do pursue their atheism, they do it with extreme intensity, it is not just absence of faith, it is insistence and constant proclamation and denial of God and or any deity, it is hard work that never ends.. and .. you betcha
that they ascribe supreme importance to the whole thing.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2019 18:15     Subject: Is a good atheist better then a bad christian?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Would a true atheist like to go to heaven if it existed or would he like to decline eternal life just to keep his integrity?


You misunderstand atheists completely.

Any atheist would immediately change their position once shown evidence of a god. That is what "atheist integrity" is, if there is such a thing. So that should answer your question.


Yeah, thanks for the clarification, I am not that current with that concept. I was always wondering if a-theist means someone who does not believe in God existence because they need sufficient proof of God's existence or is it someone who denies God's existence despite everything, kind of like chooses not to believe nor worship God or gods.. as per name a-theist or is it a person who actually goes further and tries to actively deny God's existence and prove those who choose to believe that they are wrong out of deep need and conviction that everyone should believe in the same thing an atheists does, which in a way makes such a person quite interesting from the perspective of a religious person and almost find such a person to have a religion of their own and god' of their own a lack of God becomes their god and non-believing becomes their religion.


No, this is not true in any sense. Atheism is not a religion -- it is specifically the definition of not having a religion. Nearly all atheists consider themselves agnostic atheists.


You did not get the sarcasm ?
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2019 18:14     Subject: Is a good atheist better then a bad christian?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Be a good person in life, whether you believe or don't believe.


+1

We all know people who attend church every single week, rain or shine, but boy, you would never want to live next door to them!





Anonymous
Post 06/27/2019 18:13     Subject: Is a good atheist better then a bad christian?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:That is where religion is a joke as anyone can do horrible things to anyone else and its ok as long as they claim religion and confess. I'd rather rather be a good person and atheist than someone who believes in an unproved God doing horrible things.


I think you misunderstand confession. It’s not supposed to be “My bad!”. I was raised to believe that the forgiveness of sins only came with actual repentance. If you just say I’m sorry, but continue the behavior, the relationship with God is not repaired.



This is my understanding as well.

I believe that if you sin, and you are truly sorry for what you did and ask for forgiveness, then God will show you mercy. Do you think no one should ever be forgiven, OP?


I don't know all ins and outs of the Catholicism but isn't it that Jesus actually gave the power of forgiveness to the hands of one another?
It totally makes sense, at least to me. If someone trespasses against another person, it only makes sense that until the trespassers make it
up to the trespassee only then they can ask for forgiveness of them and God because God in a way only would supervise the process that is between two humans. It kind of sucks and sounds like a legal loop when people think you can hurt another and then ask God for forgiveness while you don't make up to the one you hurt. Right? It only makes sense.



Anonymous
Post 06/27/2019 18:09     Subject: Is a good atheist better then a bad christian?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In the eyes of god, a Christian is always better.


Ah.. I don't think so. Unless you want to offend Christian God.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2019 18:06     Subject: Is a good atheist better then a bad christian?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:That is where religion is a joke as anyone can do horrible things to anyone else and its ok as long as they claim religion and confess. I'd rather rather be a good person and atheist than someone who believes in an unproved God doing horrible things.


I think you misunderstand confession. It’s not supposed to be “My bad!”. I was raised to believe that the forgiveness of sins only came with actual repentance. If you just say I’m sorry, but continue the behavior, the relationship with God is not repaired.



This is my understanding as well.

I believe that if you sin, and you are truly sorry for what you did and ask for forgiveness, then God will show you mercy. Do you think no one should ever be forgiven, OP?
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2019 13:11     Subject: Is a good atheist better then a bad christian?
Anonymous wrote:Be a good person in life, whether you believe or don't believe.


+1

We all know people who attend church every single week, rain or shine, but boy, you would never want to live next door to them!
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2019 13:08     Subject: Is a good atheist better then a bad christian?
Anonymous wrote:I'm not an atheist but I sure as heck don't care what God thinks about it. You're a good person or you're not. Doesn't matter if you're a Christian, atheist, Buddhist, Muslim, Jew, whatever.


+1000

I DGAF what a “god” might think of me.

And people can be good or bad regardless of whether they believe in any gods or not.



Anonymous
Post 06/27/2019 13:02     Subject: Is a good atheist better then a bad christian?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:you mean is a bad atheist better than a good christian? answer is YES!


Yes, obviously. And evangelicals, interestingly, have about the same rates of adultery, crime, addiction etc. as everyone else. So really, they're no better than anyone else.


At least atheists don't pretend using "God."
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2019 12:55     Subject: Is a good atheist better then a bad christian?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Would a true atheist like to go to heaven if it existed or would he like to decline eternal life just to keep his integrity?


You misunderstand atheists completely.

Any atheist would immediately change their position once shown evidence of a god. That is what "atheist integrity" is, if there is such a thing. So that should answer your question.


Yeah, thanks for the clarification, I am not that current with that concept. I was always wondering if a-theist means someone who does not believe in God existence because they need sufficient proof of God's existence or is it someone who denies God's existence despite everything, kind of like chooses not to believe nor worship God or gods.. as per name a-theist or is it a person who actually goes further and tries to actively deny God's existence and prove those who choose to believe that they are wrong out of deep need and conviction that everyone should believe in the same thing an atheists does, which in a way makes such a person quite interesting from the perspective of a religious person and almost find such a person to have a religion of their own and god' of their own a lack of God becomes their god and non-believing becomes their religion.


No, this is not true in any sense. Atheism is not a religion -- it is specifically the definition of not having a religion. Nearly all atheists consider themselves agnostic atheists.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2019 12:48     Subject: Is a good atheist better then a bad christian?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Would a true atheist like to go to heaven if it existed or would he like to decline eternal life just to keep his integrity?


You misunderstand atheists completely.

Any atheist would immediately change their position once shown evidence of a god. That is what "atheist integrity" is, if there is such a thing. So that should answer your question.


Yeah, thanks for the clarification, I am not that current with that concept. I was always wondering if a-theist means someone who does not believe in God existence because they need sufficient proof of God's existence or is it someone who denies God's existence despite everything, kind of like chooses not to believe nor worship God or gods.. as per name a-theist or is it a person who actually goes further and tries to actively deny God's existence and prove those who choose to believe that they are wrong out of deep need and conviction that everyone should believe in the same thing an atheists does, which in a way makes such a person quite interesting from the perspective of a religious person and almost find such a person to have a religion of their own and god' of their own a lack of God becomes their god and non-believing becomes their religion.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2019 12:46     Subject: Is a good atheist better then a bad christian?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In the eyes of god, a Christian is always better.

But not a fake one. They are worse.

-signed a lifelong Christian


+1, and that goes for the Nazis mentioned above.

Another Christian here.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2019 12:33     Subject: Is a good atheist better then a bad christian?
Anonymous wrote:In the eyes of god, a Christian is always better.

But not a fake one. They are worse.

-signed a lifelong Christian
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2019 12:32     Subject: Is a good atheist better then a bad christian?
Anonymous wrote:In the eyes of god, a Christian is always better.


So the Nazi criminals on trial at Nuremberg, who met with a chaplain in the months before they were hanged, were "better" in the eyes of god than Holocaust survivors who lost their faith and never regained it before dying?
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2019 12:32     Subject: Is a good atheist better then a bad christian?
Anonymous wrote:That is where religion is a joke as anyone can do horrible things to anyone else and its ok as long as they claim religion and confess. I'd rather rather be a good person and atheist than someone who believes in an unproved God doing horrible things.

I'm pretty sure God can tell the difference between a "fake" Christian and "real" one. He knows what's in people's hearts.