Anonymous wrote:I know almost nothing about the American College of Pediatricians. I know quite a bit more about the SPLC-my only view is that the SPLC is no longer a reliable source.
Frankly, I don't care what the ACP says. I already said that I am on the fence about a lot of the transgender issues as it relates to kids. It is a complicated issue and anyone who says otherwise is lying.

So, back to schools. How do you feel about transgenders and girl's sports? I strongly believe that transgender women should not be competing with biological girls.
I really don't care about bathrooms, and I am not too sure about locker rooms. Frankly, in my experience, girls are fairly modest and go into corners. I would think that might be more difficult in a boys' shower room for transgender boys.

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Anonymous wrote:You don’t have to listen to anyone. So what if someone posts something on next door. Just move on. If you disagree with their opinions so much then don’t give their opinions more coverage. By sharing on this website you have shared their opinions far and wide.

Such a tizzy over people who disagree with you.

In Arlington, you are not allowed to disagree.

Anonymous wrote:your cherrypicking references- and ignoring their subtitles. Here are the articles they list under the category 'if you only read one thing' Especially the Littman article is sound research .

If you only read one thing:
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Paul W. Hruz, Lawrence S. Mayer, and Paul R. McHugh, "Growing Pains: Problems with Puberty Suppression in Treating Gender Dysphoria," The New Atlantis, Number 52, Spring 2017, pp. 3-36.

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More research is needed to resolve these unanswered questions. At the same time, research into how and why gender dysphoria occurs, persists, and desists must also continue, as it could elucidate new ways to help people cope with gender dysphoria with less permanent and drastic treatments than sex reassignment. In light of the many uncertainties and unknowns, it would be appropriate to describe the use of puberty-blocking treatments for gender dysphoria as experimental.

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GENDER IDENTITY DYSOPHORIA (GID) & RAPID-ONSET GENDER DYSPHORIA (ROGD)



Littman, Lisa (2018). Rapid-onset gender dysphoria in adolescents and young adults: A study of parental reports. https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0202330

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Conclusion: Rapid-onset gender dysphor?ia (ROGD) describes a phenomenon where the development of gender dysphoria is observed to begin suddenly during or after puberty in an adolescent or young adult who would not have met criteria for gender dysphoria in childhood. ROGD appears to represent an entity that is distinct from the gender dysphoria observed in individuals who have previously been described as transgender. The worsening of mental well-being and parent-child relationships and behaviors that isolate AYAs from their parents, families, non-transgender friends and mainstream sources of information are particularly concerning. More research is needed to better understand this phenomenon, its implications and scope.

Anonymous wrote:There's been a lot of noise on my nextdoor lately from something called the Arlington Parents Coalition (link) related to Arlington's draft J-2 PIP transgender policy.

Gotta love how they link to a statement by the American College of Pediatricians, which appears to be a political group formed mostly for the purpose of being confused with the American Academy of Pediatrics which is the actual professional organization you've heard of. Wikipedia says American College of Pediatricians is listed as a hate group by the Southern Policy Law Center.

Approve of the policy or not, it's pretty sad that in Arlington people are using fake academic organizations and politicians passed of as actual research to make their point. The "research' section on that web site is a complete joke. Every single piece of "research" linked to is associated with the fake American College of Pediatricians or some other super right wing organization. The first five links:

"Unethical NIH Study Causes Irreversible Medical Harm to Children" - posted on youtube by "The Kelsey Coalition" - speech by Dr. Michael K. Laidlaw, who's a vocal anti-trans activist and writes frequently in church, pro-life journals and ultra-conservative journals. Read about him..
"What’s Wrong with the New NIH Study on Transgender Kids?" by Jane Robbins/ Erin Tuttle = employees of the American Principles Project, an ultra-conservative think tank
"Dr. Michelle Cretella on Transgenderism: A Mental Illness is Not a Civil Right" Michelle Critella = vice president of fake American College of Pediatricians
"The Medical Harms of Hormonal and Surgical Interventions for Gender Dysphoric Children" - the actual heritage foundation, enough said
"The Terrible Fraud of 'Transgender Medicine" - Quentin L. Van Meter = president of fake American College of Pediatricians

.. got tired of googling the authors after the first five turned out to be are all sourced from highly political organizations or are agenda-driven. None of these is actual research.

Anonymous wrote:What is interesting is that they don't include groups--like Antifa--as a hate group even though they advocate violence. They only include people that they claim are hateful. And, that is a matter of their own ideology. So, i guess in their view, if you harm people, it's not hateful.......

Anonymous wrote:If you'd care to learn more about the SPLC, here is a pretty even handed article.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/magazine/wp/2018/11/08/feature/is-the-southern-poverty-law-center-judging-hate-fairly/?utm_term=.6eedcbafb581
Final paragraph from the article:

As these letters make painfully clear, hate, like so much in American life, has become highly ideological. In this climate, seeking widespread credibility for a hate list — with its inherently blunt methodology — seems at once quaint, noble and, possibly, futile.

What is interesting is that they don't include groups--like Antifa--as a hate group even though they advocate violence. They only include people that they claim are hateful. And, that is a matter of their own ideology. So, i guess in their view, if you harm people, it's not hateful.......

Sure, many of the groups they list are hate groups. But, certainly not all of them.

Since this article was written, Morris Dees was fired. You can google and find out more about that, if you like.

But, a group who disagrees with the transgender issue so much in the press these days, is not necessarily a hate group--except in the view of the SPLC.

My personal opinion on this issue is that it is very complicated. I do think all people should be treated respectfully, and if someone is transgender and wants to be treated as another sex from the one they had when they were born, I'm willing to respect that--unless it infringes on someone else's rights.

The bathroom/locker room issue is not cut and dried. It's complicated. However, to me, the athletic issue infringes on the rights of biological females. It essentially wipes out Title IX protections for girls' sports.

I also think the "science" is still out on whether or not transitioning as a child is wise. There are studies that support both sides on that.

To me, these are decisions best made on an individual basis.

As these letters make painfully clear, hate, like so much in American life, has become highly ideological. In this climate, seeking widespread credibility for a hate list — with its inherently blunt methodology — seems at once quaint, noble and, possibly, futile.

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The point here is that the Arlington Parent Coalition is using "research" and position papers from an an organization, the American College of Pediatricians, that's actually recognized as a hate group by the Southern Policy Law Center: https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-...american-college-pediatricians

The Southern Poverty Law Center is not reliable. You need to read up on them. It used to be a great organization that did a lot to get rid or greatly reduce the KKK. Now, it is calling any group that is not supportive of leftist agenda a hate group.

You can be critical of conservative organizations if you like, but calling them a "hate organization" is itself hateful. I know nothing about the organization cited, but, if the SPLC calls them a hate group, I'm not accepting that as accurate.

You need to read up on the SPLC and Morris Dees.

The point here is that the Arlington Parent Coalition is using "research" and position papers from an an organization, the American College of Pediatricians, that's actually recognized as a hate group by the Southern Policy Law Center: https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-...american-college-pediatricians

Anonymous wrote:Without of course, recognizing that the one calling out the bigots may be just as intolerant as the bigot.

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Anonymous wrote:You don’t have to listen to anyone. So what if someone posts something on next door. Just move on. If you disagree with their opinions so much then don’t give their opinions more coverage. By sharing on this website you have shared their opinions far and wide.

Such a tizzy over people who disagree with you.

In Arlington, you are not allowed to disagree.

Anonymous wrote:You don’t have to listen to anyone. So what if someone posts something on next door. Just move on. If you disagree with their opinions so much then don’t give their opinions more coverage. By sharing on this website you have shared their opinions far and wide.

Such a tizzy over people who disagree with you.