Anonymous
05/30/2019 11:48
Subject: "Adult Swim" is a Violation of the Federal Fair Housing Act- discriminates against families???
I thought the 15 mins were so that kids would rest and not get too tired to swim, thus minimizing drownings. That's what I thought since I was a kid.
Anonymous
05/30/2019 11:48
Subject: Re:"Adult Swim" is a Violation of the Federal Fair Housing Act- discriminates against families???
Oh my gosh that’s crazy.
I’m fine for the lifeguards to get a break. If they have to get rid of adult swim, y’all better not complain about membership fee increases because now they have to hire more lifeguards!
I’m fine for the lifeguards to get a break. If they have to get rid of adult swim, y’all better not complain about membership fee increases because now they have to hire more lifeguards!
Anonymous
05/29/2019 20:53
Subject: "Adult Swim" is a Violation of the Federal Fair Housing Act- discriminates against families???
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
How many minutes is the “lap swim time”?
At our pool it’s 15 minutes every hour. My sister used to be a lifeguard and says to give the lifeguards a break and to get the kids out of the pool so they don’t pee in it.
It's also a safety issue for kids. Taking periodic breaks keeps them from getting too worn out and becoming a greater drowning risk, and a kid who is too tired is more likely to realize it when they're just sitting on the pool deck rather than splashing in the pool.
+1. Comment from FB:
I managed a pool in MoCo for 15 years and this is horseshit. The point of adult swim is really to make sure the kids rest bc otherwise some of them would never take a break. All but one of my saves were 4-8yr olds who “could swim” (according to their parents)but who got tired out in the middle of the pool and just couldn’t go any more.
If this is a countywide change, I certainly hope parents will still pull their kids for a break.
That said, the number of parents who use pools as babysitting services is insane so I’m sure there will be more saves w the combo of no adult swim and kids not being watched by parents.
I lifeguarded when I was younger and am now on our neighborhood pool board. This person is spot-on about everything, especially the last sentence.
Anonymous
05/29/2019 20:52
Subject: Re:"Adult Swim" is a Violation of the Federal Fair Housing Act- discriminates against families???
I love adult swim. It gives the life guards a break, gives families a good time to leave, and let’s me tread water for a few peaceful minutes without being run over by sharks and minnows. But our pool it is only 10 minutes. 15 becomes too much.
Anonymous
05/29/2019 20:50
Subject: "Adult Swim" is a Violation of the Federal Fair Housing Act- discriminates against families???
Anonymous wrote:I'm so glad about it. It's about time.
You don't decide whether my kid is tired or not. I decide that. Do I get 25% discount on my kids since pool is not available to them 15 minutes in an hour?
If lifeguards need a break, then all need to come out of the water. Nobody should decide who gets to be in it and how long based on gender, age,race or what have you.
If you decide that my kid needs a break, maybe your grandma needs a break and you. The sun can make anybody need a break.
If my kid needs to use a bathroom, maybe your grandma should use a bathroom and change her swim-diaper.
We don't decide who takes a break and who doesn't based somebody's age. Same goes for swimming ability-you don't decide that my 8-year old who can swim, can't swim but your grandma who never learned to swim can, or she woudln't be in the pool. Grandma can't swim but nobody would suspect her because why is grandma at the pool. So, while you are too busy getting the kids out who have guardians more likely than not, you don't see grandma drowning because grandma adult and you expect grandma to know better. Grandma lost her top long ago and wondered to the pool.
Even when experience tells you that kids need saving more often than grandmas, you don't decide to keep them out at some point. And if you do, the same break applies to all. What's the big deal if breaks are so important?
They are not important. They are there to give grown-ups the time and many have come to love that time. Even if you love that time and have convinced yourself that this is the best for the kids, it's against FHA.
You don't want kids at your pool, you go to grown-ups only pool. You want kids out, you also take the grown-ups out for the same amount. Problem solved and all happy. Don't argue with the law. Go change it if you don't like it, but don't act like it isn't there. In fact, it's time to apply it.
You want grown-up only time, match it with children only time. All happy, all get a break at some point. except grown-ups don't want the break. Well, neither do kids.
Shut up about my grandma!
Anonymous
05/29/2019 20:38
Subject: "Adult Swim" is a Violation of the Federal Fair Housing Act- discriminates against families???
I'm so glad about it. It's about time.
You don't decide whether my kid is tired or not. I decide that. Do I get 25% discount on my kids since pool is not available to them 15 minutes in an hour?
If lifeguards need a break, then all need to come out of the water. Nobody should decide who gets to be in it and how long based on gender, age,race or what have you.
If you decide that my kid needs a break, maybe your grandma needs a break and you. The sun can make anybody need a break.
If my kid needs to use a bathroom, maybe your grandma should use a bathroom and change her swim-diaper.
We don't decide who takes a break and who doesn't based somebody's age. Same goes for swimming ability-you don't decide that my 8-year old who can swim, can't swim but your grandma who never learned to swim can, or she woudln't be in the pool. Grandma can't swim but nobody would suspect her because why is grandma at the pool. So, while you are too busy getting the kids out who have guardians more likely than not, you don't see grandma drowning because grandma adult and you expect grandma to know better. Grandma lost her top long ago and wondered to the pool.
Even when experience tells you that kids need saving more often than grandmas, you don't decide to keep them out at some point. And if you do, the same break applies to all. What's the big deal if breaks are so important?
They are not important. They are there to give grown-ups the time and many have come to love that time. Even if you love that time and have convinced yourself that this is the best for the kids, it's against FHA.
You don't want kids at your pool, you go to grown-ups only pool. You want kids out, you also take the grown-ups out for the same amount. Problem solved and all happy. Don't argue with the law. Go change it if you don't like it, but don't act like it isn't there. In fact, it's time to apply it.
You want grown-up only time, match it with children only time. All happy, all get a break at some point. except grown-ups don't want the break. Well, neither do kids.
You don't decide whether my kid is tired or not. I decide that. Do I get 25% discount on my kids since pool is not available to them 15 minutes in an hour?
If lifeguards need a break, then all need to come out of the water. Nobody should decide who gets to be in it and how long based on gender, age,race or what have you.
If you decide that my kid needs a break, maybe your grandma needs a break and you. The sun can make anybody need a break.
If my kid needs to use a bathroom, maybe your grandma should use a bathroom and change her swim-diaper.
We don't decide who takes a break and who doesn't based somebody's age. Same goes for swimming ability-you don't decide that my 8-year old who can swim, can't swim but your grandma who never learned to swim can, or she woudln't be in the pool. Grandma can't swim but nobody would suspect her because why is grandma at the pool. So, while you are too busy getting the kids out who have guardians more likely than not, you don't see grandma drowning because grandma adult and you expect grandma to know better. Grandma lost her top long ago and wondered to the pool.
Even when experience tells you that kids need saving more often than grandmas, you don't decide to keep them out at some point. And if you do, the same break applies to all. What's the big deal if breaks are so important?
They are not important. They are there to give grown-ups the time and many have come to love that time. Even if you love that time and have convinced yourself that this is the best for the kids, it's against FHA.
You don't want kids at your pool, you go to grown-ups only pool. You want kids out, you also take the grown-ups out for the same amount. Problem solved and all happy. Don't argue with the law. Go change it if you don't like it, but don't act like it isn't there. In fact, it's time to apply it.
You want grown-up only time, match it with children only time. All happy, all get a break at some point. except grown-ups don't want the break. Well, neither do kids.
Anonymous
05/29/2019 20:26
Subject: Re:"Adult Swim" is a Violation of the Federal Fair Housing Act- discriminates against families???
I have no problems with calling adult swim "lap swim" but that now puts the burden of monitoring who is really swimming laps onto the lifeguards who will now have to whistle --"Keep swimming" to people who swam a lap but now are taking a break.
Adult Swim is no problem for most people -- gets the kids out of the pool, they use the potty, have a snack, reapply sunscreen, or go home.
Adult Swim is no problem for most people -- gets the kids out of the pool, they use the potty, have a snack, reapply sunscreen, or go home.
Anonymous
05/29/2019 19:56
Subject: "Adult Swim" is a Violation of the Federal Fair Housing Act- discriminates against families???
Adult swim is the best swim. I wish kid swim was 15 minutes/ hour.
Anonymous
05/29/2019 19:28
Subject: "Adult Swim" is a Violation of the Federal Fair Housing Act- discriminates against families???
Anonymous wrote:At first I thought you were complaining about adult swim hours like my pool has on Sunday mornings 10-1 when NO children are allowed to even be at the pool. Although I am an adult and enjoy the quiet time, I think it’s a bit draconian especially since many working parents would want to come during those hours on the weekend before nap time with little ones. But it’s been like that for years...
I don’t know anyone who objects to an hourly 10-15 minute break. Gives kids a needed rest, parents a few minutes to take a dip without the kids, and snack bar makes some money.
Now you do. When my kids needed a rest, I'd get them out; it's not like I could go swimming without my kids; and we don't buy stuff from the snack bar.
Anonymous
05/29/2019 19:26
Subject: "Adult Swim" is a Violation of the Federal Fair Housing Act- discriminates against families???
This is going widespread. Our Nova private (hoa) pool adopter the “no adult swim” last year. They don’t want to be sued.
Anonymous
05/29/2019 19:05
Subject: "Adult Swim" is a Violation of the Federal Fair Housing Act- discriminates against families???
Safety, hygiene, rest.
For all these reasons, it’s best to keep it.
For all these reasons, it’s best to keep it.
Anonymous
05/29/2019 18:51
Subject: "Adult Swim" is a Violation of the Federal Fair Housing Act- discriminates against families???
At first I thought you were complaining about adult swim hours like my pool has on Sunday mornings 10-1 when NO children are allowed to even be at the pool. Although I am an adult and enjoy the quiet time, I think it’s a bit draconian especially since many working parents would want to come during those hours on the weekend before nap time with little ones. But it’s been like that for years...
I don’t know anyone who objects to an hourly 10-15 minute break. Gives kids a needed rest, parents a few minutes to take a dip without the kids, and snack bar makes some money.
I don’t know anyone who objects to an hourly 10-15 minute break. Gives kids a needed rest, parents a few minutes to take a dip without the kids, and snack bar makes some money.
Anonymous
05/29/2019 18:11
Subject: Re:"Adult Swim" is a Violation of the Federal Fair Housing Act- discriminates against families???
Bizarre. Most families love adult swim because its far more efficient to get all the kids with you out of the pool for adult swim to eat or leave. Without adult swim, it would take 30 minutes to round everyone up.
Anonymous
05/29/2019 18:08
Subject: "Adult Swim" is a Violation of the Federal Fair Housing Act- discriminates against families???
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
How many minutes is the “lap swim time”?
At our pool it’s 15 minutes every hour. My sister used to be a lifeguard and says to give the lifeguards a break and to get the kids out of the pool so they don’t pee in it.
It's also a safety issue for kids. Taking periodic breaks keeps them from getting too worn out and becoming a greater drowning risk, and a kid who is too tired is more likely to realize it when they're just sitting on the pool deck rather than splashing in the pool.
+1. Comment from FB:
I managed a pool in MoCo for 15 years and this is horseshit. The point of adult swim is really to make sure the kids rest bc otherwise some of them would never take a break. All but one of my saves were 4-8yr olds who “could swim” (according to their parents)but who got tired out in the middle of the pool and just couldn’t go any more.
If this is a countywide change, I certainly hope parents will still pull their kids for a break.
That said, the number of parents who use pools as babysitting services is insane so I’m sure there will be more saves w the combo of no adult swim and kids not being watched by parents.
Anonymous
05/29/2019 18:06
Subject: "Adult Swim" is a Violation of the Federal Fair Housing Act- discriminates against families???
Anonymous wrote:How on earth is this family discrimination? If anything, it “discriminates” against children under 16; last time I checked, this is not a protected class. If anything, it would be rational basis review, which this rule would easily meet (ensuring kids get rest breaks to prevent drowning).
Families with children are a protected class.