Anonymous
05/28/2019 09:08
Subject: A thread of optimism: why do you think Trump will win in 2020?
My step-father was visiting this weekend. He's what I call a "weak" Trump supporter: voted for him because he was sick of the status quo, encouraged everyone to "give Trump a chance" after the Inaugeration, and generally is very uncomfortable when minority Americans talk about "justice."
Now? He's completely opposed to Trump. He finds him to be despicable, both in his personal conduct and lack of respect for the troops on this Memorial Day weekend. He's excited about Biden, but admits he will likely vote for anyone the Democrats nominate.
I'd say that's the general sentiment among much of the independent white Boomer electorate.
Now? He's completely opposed to Trump. He finds him to be despicable, both in his personal conduct and lack of respect for the troops on this Memorial Day weekend. He's excited about Biden, but admits he will likely vote for anyone the Democrats nominate.
I'd say that's the general sentiment among much of the independent white Boomer electorate.
Anonymous
05/28/2019 08:58
Subject: Re:A thread of optimism: why do you think Trump will win in 2020?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't like making predictions.
Having said that, I HOPE Trump wins. I see nobody that the Dems are running that has policies or a platform worth voting for. I think a good number of voters (including moderate Dems) feel that way as well. People say Joe Biden is moderate, but TBH - he has not really revealed why he is running. What is his platform? What will he do?
The economy is great. I would love for this China deal to get done - It would be a great positive for our country. I don't have great hopes that N Korea will denuclearize, but as long as they stay in check, things will be ok.
And, today, The Hill is running this article........"3 modelers predict Trump reelection: report"
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/445668-3-modelers-predict-trump-reelection
I am skeptical after 2016 because we all know that Hillary was supposed to win, right? But, found the article interesting.
I also believe that Democrats continue to underestimate the support that Trump has. And, I still believe there are lots of people out there who support him, but don't admit it. And, one only has to read some of the comments and thoughts on this forum to understand why.
+ 1,000,000
I was talking about this with my husband the other day. Far more people support Trump than anyone knows. The loudest voices are always the protesting, outraged liberals. That's who we hear from the most. There is a vast number of people who don't feel it necessary to opine at the highest volume, 24/7, about their political views - or at all, for that matter. The quiet and confident observer. I never, ever discuss politics outside of this forum, and I don't know anyone who does. Those who do are usually the people who assume everyone agrees with them and there's no need to speak diplomatically about their views. They're "right," and everyone else is "wrong". Those are the people who woke up in shock on November 9, 2016 - and will again in 2020 if they continue to dismiss and discount the views of millions of Americans.
Couldn't agree more with both PPs.
Same here.
Anonymous
05/28/2019 08:41
Subject: Re:A thread of optimism: why do you think Trump will win in 2020?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't like making predictions.
Having said that, I HOPE Trump wins. I see nobody that the Dems are running that has policies or a platform worth voting for. I think a good number of voters (including moderate Dems) feel that way as well. People say Joe Biden is moderate, but TBH - he has not really revealed why he is running. What is his platform? What will he do?
The economy is great. I would love for this China deal to get done - It would be a great positive for our country. I don't have great hopes that N Korea will denuclearize, but as long as they stay in check, things will be ok.
And, today, The Hill is running this article........"3 modelers predict Trump reelection: report"
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/445668-3-modelers-predict-trump-reelection
I am skeptical after 2016 because we all know that Hillary was supposed to win, right? But, found the article interesting.
I also believe that Democrats continue to underestimate the support that Trump has. And, I still believe there are lots of people out there who support him, but don't admit it. And, one only has to read some of the comments and thoughts on this forum to understand why.
+ 1,000,000
I was talking about this with my husband the other day. Far more people support Trump than anyone knows. The loudest voices are always the protesting, outraged liberals. That's who we hear from the most. There is a vast number of people who don't feel it necessary to opine at the highest volume, 24/7, about their political views - or at all, for that matter. The quiet and confident observer. I never, ever discuss politics outside of this forum, and I don't know anyone who does. Those who do are usually the people who assume everyone agrees with them and there's no need to speak diplomatically about their views. They're "right," and everyone else is "wrong". Those are the people who woke up in shock on November 9, 2016 - and will again in 2020 if they continue to dismiss and discount the views of millions of Americans.
Couldn't agree more with both PPs.
ANother voter in agreement with the two PPs.
I didn’t vote for Trump the first time and generally vote Democratic. I’m sure most of my friends and neighbors assume that I’m a rabid liberal like them. I do tend to lean liberal, but will be voting for Trump for sure in the next election. I would imagine there are others in a similar situation. People who just keep their mouths shut during the dinner party when someone rants against Trump.
I didn't vote Trump in 2016 either, and rarely vote for any GOP candidate, but will most likely do so in 2020.
Dems are liberals no more, they are some kind of anarchist revolutionary movement.
Anonymous
05/28/2019 08:35
Subject: A thread of optimism: why do you think Trump will win in 2020?
Trump will win overwhelmingly, thanks to the rabid far left nutcases, so often on display here on this forum. You people are nuts. Thank you for re-election win
Anonymous
05/28/2019 08:32
Subject: Re:A thread of optimism: why do you think Trump will win in 2020?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't like making predictions.
Having said that, I HOPE Trump wins. I see nobody that the Dems are running that has policies or a platform worth voting for. I think a good number of voters (including moderate Dems) feel that way as well. People say Joe Biden is moderate, but TBH - he has not really revealed why he is running. What is his platform? What will he do?
The economy is great. I would love for this China deal to get done - It would be a great positive for our country. I don't have great hopes that N Korea will denuclearize, but as long as they stay in check, things will be ok.
And, today, The Hill is running this article........"3 modelers predict Trump reelection: report"
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/445668-3-modelers-predict-trump-reelection
I am skeptical after 2016 because we all know that Hillary was supposed to win, right? But, found the article interesting.
I also believe that Democrats continue to underestimate the support that Trump has. And, I still believe there are lots of people out there who support him, but don't admit it. And, one only has to read some of the comments and thoughts on this forum to understand why.
+ 1,000,000
I was talking about this with my husband the other day. Far more people support Trump than anyone knows. The loudest voices are always the protesting, outraged liberals. That's who we hear from the most. There is a vast number of people who don't feel it necessary to opine at the highest volume, 24/7, about their political views - or at all, for that matter. The quiet and confident observer. I never, ever discuss politics outside of this forum, and I don't know anyone who does. Those who do are usually the people who assume everyone agrees with them and there's no need to speak diplomatically about their views. They're "right," and everyone else is "wrong". Those are the people who woke up in shock on November 9, 2016 - and will again in 2020 if they continue to dismiss and discount the views of millions of Americans.
Couldn't agree more with both PPs.
ANother voter in agreement with the two PPs.
I didn’t vote for Trump the first time and generally vote Democratic. I’m sure most of my friends and neighbors assume that I’m a rabid liberal like them. I do tend to lean liberal, but will be voting for Trump for sure in the next election. I would imagine there are others in a similar situation. People who just keep their mouths shut during the dinner party when someone rants against Trump.
Anonymous
05/28/2019 08:22
Subject: Re:A thread of optimism: why do you think Trump will win in 2020?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't like making predictions.
Having said that, I HOPE Trump wins. I see nobody that the Dems are running that has policies or a platform worth voting for. I think a good number of voters (including moderate Dems) feel that way as well. People say Joe Biden is moderate, but TBH - he has not really revealed why he is running. What is his platform? What will he do?
The economy is great. I would love for this China deal to get done - It would be a great positive for our country. I don't have great hopes that N Korea will denuclearize, but as long as they stay in check, things will be ok.
And, today, The Hill is running this article........"3 modelers predict Trump reelection: report"
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/445668-3-modelers-predict-trump-reelection
I am skeptical after 2016 because we all know that Hillary was supposed to win, right? But, found the article interesting.
I also believe that Democrats continue to underestimate the support that Trump has. And, I still believe there are lots of people out there who support him, but don't admit it. And, one only has to read some of the comments and thoughts on this forum to understand why.
+ 1,000,000
I was talking about this with my husband the other day. Far more people support Trump than anyone knows. The loudest voices are always the protesting, outraged liberals. That's who we hear from the most. There is a vast number of people who don't feel it necessary to opine at the highest volume, 24/7, about their political views - or at all, for that matter. The quiet and confident observer. I never, ever discuss politics outside of this forum, and I don't know anyone who does. Those who do are usually the people who assume everyone agrees with them and there's no need to speak diplomatically about their views. They're "right," and everyone else is "wrong". Those are the people who woke up in shock on November 9, 2016 - and will again in 2020 if they continue to dismiss and discount the views of millions of Americans.
Yes, this is so true. Democrats are under the false impression that many more people agree with them than actually do. They speak with the greatest derision of Trump voters TO Trump voters, just assuming that everyone thinks the way they do.
I was at a dinner party, hosted by my mother, when one of the guests started railing against the "morons and racists" who voted for Trump. Did it never occur to her that my mother, or I, or any other number of guests may have voted for him? Similarly, I was in a class when a classmate interrupted the lecture to draw a parallel between what the teacher was talking about to rail, once again, against the idiots who voted for Trump. (I took a quick glance around the room, and there were obviously a few people quite annoyed by the comment.)
Democrats are fooling themselves. They are likely in for another shock come November 2020.
Anonymous
05/28/2019 08:01
Subject: Re:A thread of optimism: why do you think Trump will win in 2020?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:PP above....
One more thing..... I do believe that the details which will be revealed regarding the genesis of the Russia investigation will be pretty devastating. Many will sympathize with Trump as a result.
The IG already cleared Page and Strozk. Whatever it is you are expecting won't happen unless Barr pulls another fabrication ploy that people like you seem prone to fall for.
First of all, the IG did not "clear" Page and Strzok. Not sure where you are getting that.
And, the IG is not who they should be worried about.
I think this is a loser for the Trump team. Why follow what you perceive as one fishing expedition with another? There’s nothing there. Better to move on because you got a pretty good possibility of a second term, with a good economy and railing against the Democrats and their ongoing investigations. Run at this windmill and I think you shoot yourself in the foot.
There's nothing there? Partisan FBI agents cooked up a way to spy on the opposing candidate and create some elaborate Russia collusion hoax to oust a sitting president, and we should just say "oh well"? What's to stop Democrats from doing it again, since there is no consequence to using government forces to undue a presidential election?
Your side has wasted tens of millions of dollars and caused a massive distraction for two years with a hoax - impeding the president from being as effective as possible - and now, because it was revealed there's nothing there, you want to just drop it? Or, as we've seen, go on a major offensive by smearing the AG?
The depths to which Democrats sunk to install Hillary, and then, losing that fight, to undue the election results, will be revealed.
Anonymous
05/28/2019 07:54
Subject: Re:A thread of optimism: why do you think Trump will win in 2020?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:PP above....
One more thing..... I do believe that the details which will be revealed regarding the genesis of the Russia investigation will be pretty devastating. Many will sympathize with Trump as a result.
The IG already cleared Page and Strozk. Whatever it is you are expecting won't happen unless Barr pulls another fabrication ploy that people like you seem prone to fall for.
First of all, the IG did not "clear" Page and Strzok. Not sure where you are getting that.
And, the IG is not who they should be worried about.
I think this is a loser for the Trump team. Why follow what you perceive as one fishing expedition with another? There’s nothing there. Better to move on because you got a pretty good possibility of a second term, with a good economy and railing against the Democrats and their ongoing investigations. Run at this windmill and I think you shoot yourself in the foot.
+1.
It's pretty clear to everyone that Obama allowed, even invited, Russian interference.
That won't happen again, as he is faaaaaaaaaaar away from the White House.
Not sure I believe this, and I doubt it can be proven anyway. But this is my point. Never waste your advantage on a vendetta where you cannot completely control the outcome. Trump is going to make some enemies with this. Not worth it, not now.
What exactly don't you believe?
1) Russian interference started in 2014, if not earlier. That's a fact.
2) The President was................Obama.
Right?
Don’t miss the point. Pursuing this stirs up hings and makes enemies of people Trump doesn’t need to bother.
Anonymous
05/28/2019 07:51
Subject: Re:A thread of optimism: why do you think Trump will win in 2020?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I was talking about this with my husband the other day. Far more people support Trump than anyone knows.
But you know it, right? This is the classical conspiracy theorist lunacy -- "nobody knows something but I do."
Anyway, Trump has gotten too old, fat and ugly to win a second term.
Biden looks like a grandpa with dementia.
Bernie looks like a crazy old uncle.
You are right, Bernie, Trump, and Biden are three of a kind, except Trump is by far the fattest.
True.
Maybe that helps him connect better with the average voter?
Anonymous
05/28/2019 07:48
Subject: Re:A thread of optimism: why do you think Trump will win in 2020?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I was talking about this with my husband the other day. Far more people support Trump than anyone knows.
But you know it, right? This is the classical conspiracy theorist lunacy -- "nobody knows something but I do."
Anyway, Trump has gotten too old, fat and ugly to win a second term.
Biden looks like a grandpa with dementia.
Bernie looks like a crazy old uncle.
You are right, Bernie, Trump, and Biden are three of a kind, except Trump is by far the fattest.
Anonymous
05/28/2019 07:46
Subject: Re:A thread of optimism: why do you think Trump will win in 2020?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I was talking about this with my husband the other day. Far more people support Trump than anyone knows.
But you know it, right? This is the classical conspiracy theorist lunacy -- "nobody knows something but I do."
Anyway, Trump has gotten too old, fat and ugly to win a second term.
Biden looks like a grandpa with dementia.
Bernie looks like a crazy old uncle.
Anonymous
05/28/2019 07:40
Subject: Re:A thread of optimism: why do you think Trump will win in 2020?
Anonymous wrote:
I was talking about this with my husband the other day. Far more people support Trump than anyone knows.
But you know it, right? This is the classical conspiracy theorist lunacy -- "nobody knows something but I do."
Anyway, Trump has gotten too old, fat and ugly to win a second term.
Anonymous
05/28/2019 07:05
Subject: Re:A thread of optimism: why do you think Trump will win in 2020?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't like making predictions.
Having said that, I HOPE Trump wins. I see nobody that the Dems are running that has policies or a platform worth voting for. I think a good number of voters (including moderate Dems) feel that way as well. People say Joe Biden is moderate, but TBH - he has not really revealed why he is running. What is his platform? What will he do?
The economy is great. I would love for this China deal to get done - It would be a great positive for our country. I don't have great hopes that N Korea will denuclearize, but as long as they stay in check, things will be ok.
And, today, The Hill is running this article........"3 modelers predict Trump reelection: report"
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/445668-3-modelers-predict-trump-reelection
I am skeptical after 2016 because we all know that Hillary was supposed to win, right? But, found the article interesting.
I also believe that Democrats continue to underestimate the support that Trump has. And, I still believe there are lots of people out there who support him, but don't admit it. And, one only has to read some of the comments and thoughts on this forum to understand why.
+ 1,000,000
I was talking about this with my husband the other day. Far more people support Trump than anyone knows. The loudest voices are always the protesting, outraged liberals. That's who we hear from the most. There is a vast number of people who don't feel it necessary to opine at the highest volume, 24/7, about their political views - or at all, for that matter. The quiet and confident observer. I never, ever discuss politics outside of this forum, and I don't know anyone who does. Those who do are usually the people who assume everyone agrees with them and there's no need to speak diplomatically about their views. They're "right," and everyone else is "wrong". Those are the people who woke up in shock on November 9, 2016 - and will again in 2020 if they continue to dismiss and discount the views of millions of Americans.
Couldn't agree more with both PPs.
Anonymous
05/27/2019 23:03
Subject: Re:A thread of optimism: why do you think Trump will win in 2020?
Anonymous wrote:I don't like making predictions.
Having said that, I HOPE Trump wins. I see nobody that the Dems are running that has policies or a platform worth voting for. I think a good number of voters (including moderate Dems) feel that way as well. People say Joe Biden is moderate, but TBH - he has not really revealed why he is running. What is his platform? What will he do?
The economy is great. I would love for this China deal to get done - It would be a great positive for our country. I don't have great hopes that N Korea will denuclearize, but as long as they stay in check, things will be ok.
And, today, The Hill is running this article........"3 modelers predict Trump reelection: report"
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/445668-3-modelers-predict-trump-reelection
I am skeptical after 2016 because we all know that Hillary was supposed to win, right? But, found the article interesting.
I also believe that Democrats continue to underestimate the support that Trump has. And, I still believe there are lots of people out there who support him, but don't admit it. And, one only has to read some of the comments and thoughts on this forum to understand why.
+ 1,000,000
I was talking about this with my husband the other day. Far more people support Trump than anyone knows. The loudest voices are always the protesting, outraged liberals. That's who we hear from the most. There is a vast number of people who don't feel it necessary to opine at the highest volume, 24/7, about their political views - or at all, for that matter. The quiet and confident observer. I never, ever discuss politics outside of this forum, and I don't know anyone who does. Those who do are usually the people who assume everyone agrees with them and there's no need to speak diplomatically about their views. They're "right," and everyone else is "wrong". Those are the people who woke up in shock on November 9, 2016 - and will again in 2020 if they continue to dismiss and discount the views of millions of Americans.
Anonymous
05/27/2019 21:55
Subject: A thread of optimism: why do you think Trump will win in 2020?
Trump will win because the democrats will run some far left looney tune.