Anonymous
05/28/2019 12:15
Subject: Girls DA/ECNL in VA: who will survive?
I don't have a dog in the race but continue to argue that if you are close to an elite soccer team, i.e. a team that plays in the top brackets of the top tournaments, you know that ECNL/DA remains a draw for the most talented players.
You can't judge a team at u15 or younger because the teams are not mature and not complete. McLean's 05 team was a disaster last year but this year is heading to the ECNL Nationals and has defeated some very strong teams in several tournaments. I believe that team lost about a half dozen players to the DA but then replaced those players with others from non-ECNL clubs. Loudoun will get better.
Again, the teams that will suffer are the nonECNL/DA teams as they lose talent to ECNL/DA teams. Even the weakest ECNL/DA team will beat most of the strongest non-ECNL/DA teams. There will always be stong non-ECNL/DA teams like Pipeline, South Shore Select and other clubs who will beat ECNL/DA clubs as South Shore did in at JeffCup.
You can't judge a team at u15 or younger because the teams are not mature and not complete. McLean's 05 team was a disaster last year but this year is heading to the ECNL Nationals and has defeated some very strong teams in several tournaments. I believe that team lost about a half dozen players to the DA but then replaced those players with others from non-ECNL clubs. Loudoun will get better.
Again, the teams that will suffer are the nonECNL/DA teams as they lose talent to ECNL/DA teams. Even the weakest ECNL/DA team will beat most of the strongest non-ECNL/DA teams. There will always be stong non-ECNL/DA teams like Pipeline, South Shore Select and other clubs who will beat ECNL/DA clubs as South Shore did in at JeffCup.
Anonymous
05/28/2019 11:02
Subject: Girls DA/ECNL in VA: who will survive?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Look at the talent. Loudoun, hands down takes it.
Loudoun takes beating in every ECNL age group. They have the worst overall record of all local ECNL programs. McLean, BRYC and VDA have much better programs.
BRYC doesnt take a beatin in u13 & u14? Is BRYCs record at those age groups really any better?
BRYC may take a beating in the younger age groups, which is a valid cause for concern, but they have strong teams in the older age groups. Loudoun takes beating in EVERY age group, yet the PP crowned Loudoun as the best ECNL program.
Loudoun 06 and up will be better going forward. 05's and down, i don't think they will be that competitive.
Anonymous
05/28/2019 09:53
Subject: Girls DA/ECNL in VA: who will survive?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Look at the talent. Loudoun, hands down takes it.
Loudoun takes beating in every ECNL age group. They have the worst overall record of all local ECNL programs. McLean, BRYC and VDA have much better programs.
BRYC doesnt take a beatin in u13 & u14? Is BRYCs record at those age groups really any better?
BRYC may take a beating in the younger age groups, which is a valid cause for concern, but they have strong teams in the older age groups. Loudoun takes beating in EVERY age group, yet the PP crowned Loudoun as the best ECNL program.
Anonymous
05/28/2019 09:53
Subject: Girls DA/ECNL in VA: who will survive?
Simple truth is it is all a $$$ game. Pay to play.
Unfortunately, a family can now pay for their kid to play in what was a good league in most regions, ECNL.
And the results show there is NOT enough talent to go around for all the 'elite' teams. Loudoun, BRYC (except '03), VDA in most cases & McLean below the U17 age group are punching bags for the ECNL league overall. The MA region is weak.
Unfortunately, a family can now pay for their kid to play in what was a good league in most regions, ECNL.
And the results show there is NOT enough talent to go around for all the 'elite' teams. Loudoun, BRYC (except '03), VDA in most cases & McLean below the U17 age group are punching bags for the ECNL league overall. The MA region is weak.
Anonymous
05/28/2019 09:28
Subject: Girls DA/ECNL in VA: who will survive?
Anonymous wrote:It takes a season irgendwie two for teams to get used to the ECNL level of play.
Man the excuses for things on the board are comical.
When you don't win, it takes time.
When you win, it is because you recruit.
When you don't develop, it is because someone on a message board is trashing your club.
When you do develop, it is favoritism.
It never stops.
Anonymous
05/28/2019 09:26
Subject: Girls DA/ECNL in VA: who will survive?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Look at the talent. Loudoun, hands down takes it.
Loudoun takes beating in every ECNL age group. They have the worst overall record of all local ECNL programs. McLean, BRYC and VDA have much better programs.
BRYC doesnt take a beatin in u13 & u14? Is BRYCs record at those age groups really any better?
Anonymous
05/28/2019 09:23
Subject: Girls DA/ECNL in VA: who will survive?
It takes a season irgendwie two for teams to get used to the ECNL level of play.
Anonymous
05/28/2019 08:57
Subject: Girls DA/ECNL in VA: who will survive?
Loudon ecnl u13 was much better than Mclean. Mclean becomes good at u15.
Anonymous
05/28/2019 08:48
Subject: Girls DA/ECNL in VA: who will survive?
Anonymous wrote:Look at the talent. Loudoun, hands down takes it.
Loudoun takes beating in every ECNL age group. They have the worst overall record of all local ECNL programs. McLean, BRYC and VDA have much better programs.
Anonymous
05/28/2019 08:32
Subject: Girls DA/ECNL in VA: who will survive?
You people are clueless. ECNL and DA will remain. Leagues like NCSL, CCL and EDP will struggle. As both leagues expand, they will take the top teams as they did with Arlington and Loudoun in the past year. Talented kids on the teams left behind will ask themselves why they are playing on a weak league and will bolt to an ECNL/DA team, especially now that there are more options than there were a few years ago.
You are already seeing a consolidation of talent in these two clubs. If you are the parent of a player on an elite team, you already know this. You also know that coaches from the top teams don't bother going to top showcases if those showcases are not ECNL/DA.
ECNL/DA give players a choice. Those who don't want HS soccer play in the DA those who do play in ECNL. Team like McLean will remain relevant because they have the best coaches. Elite players want an elite coach who can prepare them for the next level and McLean's coaches have a great track record.
You are already seeing a consolidation of talent in these two clubs. If you are the parent of a player on an elite team, you already know this. You also know that coaches from the top teams don't bother going to top showcases if those showcases are not ECNL/DA.
ECNL/DA give players a choice. Those who don't want HS soccer play in the DA those who do play in ECNL. Team like McLean will remain relevant because they have the best coaches. Elite players want an elite coach who can prepare them for the next level and McLean's coaches have a great track record.
Anonymous
05/28/2019 07:41
Subject: Girls DA/ECNL in VA: who will survive?
Anonymous wrote:Loudoun will win. McLean and Arlington will implode.
Traffic and club size will win. Loudoun and Arlington, McLean is caught in the middle.
Anonymous
05/27/2019 23:35
Subject: Girls DA/ECNL in VA: who will survive?
Anonymous wrote:Look at the talent. Loudoun, hands down takes it.
I love Loudoun, and Loudoun is a club that has survived countless changes. It will be fine. That doesn't mean the ECNL as a league will have all the area's top talent, and it doesn't mean the DA will disappear.
Anonymous
05/27/2019 23:26
Subject: Girls DA/ECNL in VA: who will survive?
Look at the talent. Loudoun, hands down takes it.
Anonymous
05/27/2019 23:24
Subject: Girls DA/ECNL in VA: who will survive?
Loudoun will win. McLean and Arlington will implode.
Anonymous
05/27/2019 23:20
Subject: Girls DA/ECNL in VA: who will survive?
Anonymous wrote:Washington Spirit DA will cease to exist. Wait, that already happened.
STJFCV will increase costs as more play is moved to the St. James. The program will struggle, until the girls DA dies a slow death by 2022.
Loudoun, BRYC, VDA, McLean, Arlington, and some FCV remnant will be ECNL, until two merger occurs, leaving three strong ECNL teams in NoVa, who scoop up all local talent truly capable of "elite" level soccer.
I love your optimism! Good for you.
Meanwhile, the CCL itself was formed to fight the existence of the DA. And we all saw how that turned out. I have no doubt the ECNL will survive, but despite doing everything it can to control where all the top talent goes, it's losing ground.