To me; it’s that being Catholic means more than the current church leaders or its hierarchy. I am vehemently against what the President and his party stands for, but I’m still an American.

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Anonymous wrote:Even if I never again set foot in a Catholic church, I’d still feel Catholic. It would still be how I view the world, how I pray, etc. What, then, would be accomplished by my not going to Mass or receiving the Sacraments? I’d feel a deep sense of loss, without having actually helped a single victim.

Instead of giving $$ to the church, give it directly to the victims. That would help them.

People can and do participate in the Church without giving $. Others give, but do not attend.

How would you feel about someone who no longer gave financially, but remained devout?

My mother’s catholic family was raised about an hour from Pittsburg in the 60/70s. My 80 yo grandmother is very upset over the report. She said my uncles were never involved in anything like that, and she hates that she had to ask them.

Where I live, the woman in charge of the catholic school was very young in her career when she suspected a monsignor was my inappropriate/predatory but as a young woman who worked in the church she had no real line of action to take. It was just her suspicions, but eventually (years later) she found out she was right.

Now Decades later, she openly discusses that part of her past with parents. She is 100% committed to the children of the church and would take every action available if she suspected those acts her happening to any child in any religion.

Not saying something (although there was no one to say it too) is her biggest regret. She brings this story up every year because she doesn’t want parents to forget that Satin is convincing, but God is in our hearts and to never look away from what your heart is trying to tell you.

Anonymous wrote:Would you refuse gold and precious stones only because the hands of the giver are dirty?.

If they were the dirty hands of a child rapist, yes, I would refuse them, without hesitation.

Anonymous wrote:Would you refuse gold and precious stones only because the hands of the giver are dirty?
I think the dirty hands are Church Scandals, gold and precious stones are the graces we are receiving in the Sacraments and the loving presence of the Lord in the Eucharist.

OP here. Yes I would.

How many children have those hands touched in the wrong places. Read the PA grand jury report.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would you refuse gold and precious stones only because the hands of the giver are dirty?
I think the dirty hands are Church Scandals, gold and precious stones are the graces we are receiving in the Sacraments and the loving presence of the Lord in the Eucharist.

+1000

Wow. I would hope you would recognize that your relationship with your preferred deity does not require you to ignore some really, really dirty hands. How far would you go...would you entrust your child to those dirty hands?

Anonymous wrote:Would you refuse gold and precious stones only because the hands of the giver are dirty?
I think the dirty hands are Church Scandals, gold and precious stones are the graces we are receiving in the Sacraments and the loving presence of the Lord in the Eucharist.

+1000

Anonymous wrote:I get the impression no answer would satisfy you.

+1. This is abundantly clear.

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Anonymous wrote:Even if I never again set foot in a Catholic church, I’d still feel Catholic. It would still be how I view the world, how I pray, etc. What, then, would be accomplished by my not going to Mass or receiving the Sacraments? I’d feel a deep sense of loss, without having actually helped a single victim.

+1

You can go without giving a single penny, to any religious organization. They are all hiding abuse. It's only because the Catholic Church is the largest and most powerful Christian denomination, by far, that their scandals are more numerous and have reached a tipping point.
Don't worry about their financial health. They have billions.

Anonymous wrote:Even if I never again set foot in a Catholic church, I’d still feel Catholic. It would still be how I view the world, how I pray, etc. What, then, would be accomplished by my not going to Mass or receiving the Sacraments? I’d feel a deep sense of loss, without having actually helped a single victim.

Instead of giving $$ to the church, give it directly to the victims. That would help them.

Anonymous wrote:Would you refuse gold and precious stones only because the hands of the giver are dirty?
I think the dirty hands are Church Scandals, gold and precious stones are the graces we are receiving in the Sacraments and the loving presence of the Lord in the Eucharist.

This is so wrong on so many levels.

Would you refuse gold and precious stones only because the hands of the giver are dirty?
I think the dirty hands are Church Scandals, gold and precious stones are the graces we are receiving in the Sacraments and the loving presence of the Lord in the Eucharist.

Anonymous wrote:Even if I never again set foot in a Catholic church, I’d still feel Catholic. It would still be how I view the world, how I pray, etc. What, then, would be accomplished by my not going to Mass or receiving the Sacraments? I’d feel a deep sense of loss, without having actually helped a single victim.

I left the church before the erupting scandals and at some level, I still feel Catholic, too -- but it's all tradition and memories, chants, robes and the smell of incense . There's no way there's anything truly good in such a scandal ridden organzation.

Try the Episcopalians or Lutherans or Greek Orthodox. They have the Sacraments too. It will be a little different, but if you can't handle the differences, it suggests you're just locked into memories, not into anything "holy." And you're willing to support a criminal organization because it feels good.

Anonymous wrote:Even if I never again set foot in a Catholic church, I’d still feel Catholic. It would still be how I view the world, how I pray, etc. What, then, would be accomplished by my not going to Mass or receiving the Sacraments? I’d feel a deep sense of loss, without having actually helped a single victim.

+1

Anonymous wrote:Even if I never again set foot in a Catholic church, I’d still feel Catholic. It would still be how I view the world, how I pray, etc. What, then, would be accomplished by my not going to Mass or receiving the Sacraments? I’d feel a deep sense of loss, without having actually helped a single victim.

This is BS.
If only you had the courage to stop funding the church, you could stop the abuse.

If all if you stop going, then justice will be done.

Your comments also show you have no true relationship with Jesus, juat the pomp and circumstance of the Catholic church.