Anonymous
05/21/2019 12:52
Subject: WSJ article on more students especially the affluent get extra time on SAT
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is another reason why we need the “adversity score” on the SAT.
This makes it worse for my child. Try being a white student on major financial aid in a college prep school. All the richies and URM's get the good colleges. No one wants smart white kids that need aid. Colleges need money or numbers to check off their list. If you aren't one, you are not getting in.
Wait your child is getting the incredible privilege of a Chanel education on your Walmart budget and you’re STILL bitterly whining about it not being ENOUGH extra privilege for your kid?
Not the PP, but this is EXACTLY what parents say at college level too. Like your money means you deserve a better education than others. You are paying for the poor and they should be satisfied they are even going to that school. When in fact, it is very clear that kids on FA at any level of education are there because they are smarter than the full paying kids and they bring up the stats they love to profess without having private tutors, test prep, legacy, etc... So I think you need to check yourself.
Anonymous
05/21/2019 12:48
Subject: WSJ article on more students especially the affluent get extra time on SAT
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No one should get extra time. It is just a scam for the wealthy to push their kids above the others.
In real life you don't get extra time.
at work, I give extra time all the time.
Where do you work? I don't know many professions where you just get extra time. I would be curious
I’m a lawyer and we get extensions all the time. And there are almost no “quick you only have 3 hours but certainly not 4.5 hours!” drills.
If so many kids need more time, just extend the amount of time the rest takes. It should still be curved to the same distribution.
Anonymous
05/21/2019 12:48
Subject: Re:WSJ article on more students especially the affluent get extra time on SAT
Anonymous wrote:I only sent my kids to private because they have a learning disability. The number make sense to me.
Not at a college-prep private school. Not at all.
Anonymous
05/21/2019 12:46
Subject: WSJ article on more students especially the affluent get extra time on SAT
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is another reason why we need the “adversity score” on the SAT.
This makes it worse for my child. Try being a white student on major financial aid in a college prep school. All the richies and URM's get the good colleges. No one wants smart white kids that need aid. Colleges need money or numbers to check off their list. If you aren't one, you are not getting in.
Wait your child is getting the incredible privilege of a Chanel education on your Walmart budget and you’re STILL bitterly whining about it not being ENOUGH extra privilege for your kid?
Anonymous
05/21/2019 12:45
Subject: WSJ article on more students especially the affluent get extra time on SAT
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No one should get extra time. It is just a scam for the wealthy to push their kids above the others.
In real life you don't get extra time.
at work, I give extra time all the time.
Where do you work? I don't know many professions where you just get extra time. I would be curious
Anonymous
05/21/2019 12:44
Subject: WSJ article on more students especially the affluent get extra time on SAT
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is another reason why we need the “adversity score” on the SAT.
This makes it worse for my child. Try being a white student on major financial aid in a college prep school. All the richies and URM's get the good colleges. No one wants smart white kids that need aid. Colleges need money or numbers to check off their list. If you aren't one, you are not getting in.
Just passing through, as a "URM" who lives in a fairly affluent, majority minority neighborhood and has young kids nowhere near high school age. Wouldn't my kids be penalized by the adversity score? It would capture that we live in a well-off neighborhood with low crime, but it wouldn't capture any adversity due to skin color routinely experienced by many POC.
Your kids would have access to the same schools that their affluent neighbors have access to. As a URM, your child's adversity score would be the same as his/her affluent URM peers' diversity score, and those scores would be higher than their white affluent/low income peers.
Anonymous
05/21/2019 12:44
Subject: WSJ article on more students especially the affluent get extra time on SAT
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:College Board approves 94% of requests??? So there is no real investigation? Who ever said it was difficult to get extra time accommodation is full of hog wash. A 94% approval rate is not an indication that it is difficult to get approval.
College board requires proof of diagnosis for accomodations. Once you have a qualified diagnosis, who is the College Board to say that the kid's diagnosis isn't valid? Getting an evaluation to get a diagnosis is an $$$ multiday process. All of you people implying that parents and kids are faking should count your lucky stars that your kid doesn't have a learning disability or other learning challenges.
And hence the unfairness of the system and the abuse.
Anonymous
05/21/2019 12:42
Subject: Re:WSJ article on more students especially the affluent get extra time on SAT
F'ing ACT and SAT have all the necessary data of every individual who takes the test (ID of the student, what kind of accommodation, zip code, median income of the zip code, what school the student goes to and whether it is expensive private, public in wealthy or poor area, how many test takers in each school). They can easily analyze the data identify unusually high usage of special accommodations and stamp down misuse. But they don't. It will hurt their gravy train.
Anonymous
05/21/2019 12:40
Subject: WSJ article on more students especially the affluent get extra time on SAT
Anonymous wrote:College Board approves 94% of requests??? So there is no real investigation? Who ever said it was difficult to get extra time accommodation is full of hog wash. A 94% approval rate is not an indication that it is difficult to get approval.
College board requires proof of diagnosis for accomodations. Once you have a qualified diagnosis, who is the College Board to say that the kid's diagnosis isn't valid? Getting an evaluation to get a diagnosis is an $$$ multiday process. All of you people implying that parents and kids are faking should count your lucky stars that your kid doesn't have a learning disability or other learning challenges.
Anonymous
05/21/2019 12:38
Subject: WSJ article on more students especially the affluent get extra time on SAT
College Board approves 94% of requests??? So there is no real investigation? Who ever said it was difficult to get extra time accommodation is full of hog wash. A 94% approval rate is not an indication that it is difficult to get approval.
Anonymous
05/21/2019 12:36
Subject: WSJ article on more students especially the affluent get extra time on SAT
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No one should get extra time. It is just a scam for the wealthy to push their kids above the others.
In real life you don't get extra time.
I am fine with extra time if when submitted - either their transcript or their standardizes tests, it notes there was extra time given.
I am fine with this if teachers can also not... busy body mom who clearly did all projects, dad is a jerk, parents paid for Kumon since the kid was 4, .... is that cool with you too?
Anonymous
05/21/2019 12:36
Subject: WSJ article on more students especially the affluent get extra time on SAT
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is another reason why we need the “adversity score” on the SAT.
This makes it worse for my child. Try being a white student on major financial aid in a college prep school. All the richies and URM's get the good colleges. No one wants smart white kids that need aid. Colleges need money or numbers to check off their list. If you aren't one, you are not getting in.
Just passing through, as a "URM" who lives in a fairly affluent, majority minority neighborhood and has young kids nowhere near high school age. Wouldn't my kids be penalized by the adversity score? It would capture that we live in a well-off neighborhood with low crime, but it wouldn't capture any adversity due to skin color routinely experienced by many POC.
Anonymous
05/21/2019 12:35
Subject: WSJ article on more students especially the affluent get extra time on SAT
Anonymous wrote:No one should get extra time. It is just a scam for the wealthy to push their kids above the others.
In real life you don't get extra time.
at work, I give extra time all the time.
Anonymous
05/21/2019 12:34
Subject: Re:WSJ article on more students especially the affluent get extra time on SAT
I only sent my kids to private because they have a learning disability. The number make sense to me.
Anonymous
05/21/2019 12:33
Subject: WSJ article on more students especially the affluent get extra time on SAT
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No one should get extra time. It is just a scam for the wealthy to push their kids above the others.
In real life you don't get extra time.
I am fine with extra time if when submitted - either their transcript or their standardizes tests, it notes there was extra time given. [/quote
The article noted:
The appeal of extra time grew when in 2003 the notification of a test taker taking extra time stopped.
Request to College Board for special accommodations jumped 200% from 2010-2011 to 2017-2018. Over same timeframe the number of test takers increased by 25%.
High schools submit the majority of these requests. Most ask for extra time. College Board approves 94% of requests.
So for those who said one has to jump through hoops and difficult to get approvals for extra time or other accommodations, I don’t think 94% approval rate indicates that.