Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of these responses make it clear that you have no idea how hard it is to fill teaching positions in ward 7 and 8. She’ll get hired. Quickly probably. Not that she’ll do a good job but spaces need to be filled.

Not good.

Anonymous wrote:Some of these responses make it clear that you have no idea how hard it is to fill teaching positions in ward 7 and 8. She’ll get hired. Quickly probably. Not that she’ll do a good job but spaces need to be filled.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While it’s understandable that you want to help your friend, please consider that children will be directly affected if she is an ineffective teacher. Hiding information about a previously unsuccessful teaching job at a charter school from DCPS principals trying to make a good hiring decision is unethical. Maybe she should look for something outside the classroom directly but still in the field of education. She might find something she likes and it more successful doing. Lots of education-connected non-profits in the area.

I’m sorry, but it seems I was unclear. I thought I noted in my PS at the end of the OP that I am trying to discourage her. I agree with everything you say. She is somewhat aware that she’s not a good teacher, but that hasn’t discouraged her yet. I’m hoping DCPS and DCPCS communicate and her past firing would be a roadblock to being hired.

Anonymous wrote:OP, I’ve taught in both DCPS and DC charter schools, they generally don’t care if you mention fear of retaliation. Also you’re more likely to get a job closer to August, although sometimes the pickings are slim. DCPS despite the facade that it puts out is in desperate need of teachers. Most school districts these days take what hey can get as the workload keeps increasing, pay stagnates and student loans will *only* pay off your entire debt if you work in a high stressed, highly impoverished school. As long as you don’t have any red flags in your background check you are pretty solid. I wish caution you about applying to DC charter schools. They don’t have many rights and are often at-will employees, I’ve seen people walked out at the end of the day with little warning about what they did wrong and without so much as a 30 intervention plan. Like all work places politics matter but teaching in DCPS is often a landmine. I would suggest that you try to get into one of the better DCPS schools. Now that IMPACT is gone you might have a little time for the school admin to allow you to grow into your classroom manangenent style.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:won't her resume include the DCPCS? If I were a principal, I'd be sniffing around that entry.

No. She left it off after MCPS and PGCPS turned her down. Right now her resume shows just her certification program, a semester of student teaching, and the private school. I guess a smart principal will ask about the gap.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While it’s understandable that you want to help your friend, please consider that children will be directly affected if she is an ineffective teacher. Hiding information about a previously unsuccessful teaching job at a charter school from DCPS principals trying to make a good hiring decision is unethical. Maybe she should look for something outside the classroom directly but still in the field of education. She might find something she likes and it more successful doing. Lots of education-connected non-profits in the area.

I’m sorry, but it seems I was unclear. I thought I noted in my PS at the end of the OP that I am trying to discourage her. I agree with everything you say. She is somewhat aware that she’s not a good teacher, but that hasn’t discouraged her yet. I’m hoping DCPS and DCPCS communicate and her past firing would be a roadblock to being hired.

New School Safety Act requires that DCPS and charters at least contact every former employer for the past 20 years where the applicant had a child-facing position. This doesn't mean the charter will disclose poor performance but it makes it more likely. You can also let your friend know it is a CERTAINTY that former employers will be contacted under the new law.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While it’s understandable that you want to help your friend, please consider that children will be directly affected if she is an ineffective teacher. Hiding information about a previously unsuccessful teaching job at a charter school from DCPS principals trying to make a good hiring decision is unethical. Maybe she should look for something outside the classroom directly but still in the field of education. She might find something she likes and it more successful doing. Lots of education-connected non-profits in the area.

I’m sorry, but it seems I was unclear. I thought I noted in my PS at the end of the OP that I am trying to discourage her. I agree with everything you say. She is somewhat aware that she’s not a good teacher, but that hasn’t discouraged her yet. I’m hoping DCPS and DCPCS communicate and her past firing would be a roadblock to being hired.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I’ve taught in both DCPS and DC charter schools, they generally don’t care if you mention fear of retaliation. Also you’re more likely to get a job closer to August, although sometimes the pickings are slim. DCPS despite the facade that it puts out is in desperate need of teachers. Most school districts these days take what hey can get as the workload keeps increasing, pay stagnates and student loans will *only* pay off your entire debt if you work in a high stressed, highly impoverished school. As long as you don’t have any red flags in your background check you are pretty solid. I wish caution you about applying to DC charter schools. They don’t have many rights and are often at-will employees, I’ve seen people walked out at the end of the day with little warning about what they did wrong and without so much as a 30 intervention plan. Like all work places politics matter but teaching in DCPS is often a landmine. I would suggest that you try to get into one of the better DCPS schools. Now that IMPACT is gone you might have a little time for the school admin to allow you to grow into your classroom manangenent style.

Uhm. Where did IMPACT go? Curious DCPS teacher here.

Anonymous wrote:OP, I’ve taught in both DCPS and DC charter schools, they generally don’t care if you mention fear of retaliation. Also you’re more likely to get a job closer to August, although sometimes the pickings are slim. DCPS despite the facade that it puts out is in desperate need of teachers. Most school districts these days take what hey can get as the workload keeps increasing, pay stagnates and student loans will *only* pay off your entire debt if you work in a high stressed, highly impoverished school. As long as you don’t have any red flags in your background check you are pretty solid. I wish caution you about applying to DC charter schools. They don’t have many rights and are often at-will employees, I’ve seen people walked out at the end of the day with little warning about what they did wrong and without so much as a 30 intervention plan. Like all work places politics matter but teaching in DCPS is often a landmine. I would suggest that you try to get into one of the better DCPS schools. Now that IMPACT is gone you might have a little time for the school admin to allow you to grow into your classroom manangenent style.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While it’s understandable that you want to help your friend, please consider that children will be directly affected if she is an ineffective teacher. Hiding information about a previously unsuccessful teaching job at a charter school from DCPS principals trying to make a good hiring decision is unethical. Maybe she should look for something outside the classroom directly but still in the field of education. She might find something she likes and it more successful doing. Lots of education-connected non-profits in the area.

I’m sorry, but it seems I was unclear. I thought I noted in my PS at the end of the OP that I am trying to discourage her. I agree with everything you say. She is somewhat aware that she’s not a good teacher, but that hasn’t discouraged her yet. I’m hoping DCPS and DCPCS communicate and her past firing would be a roadblock to being hired.

The reality is that no one is perfect, many of our first jobs after college and post grad school is learning how to apply theory to real world application. I’m not going to actively discourage someone like the OP, as people on this board should be grateful that anyone wants to go into teaching their little urchins and stay in teaching. Do you know how hard it is to recruit people that aren’t in teaching just to bolster their law school/Med school/other school application admissions stories? Administrators would much rather work with someone like the OP than someone who is well polished but will be there for less than 3 years.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While it’s understandable that you want to help your friend, please consider that children will be directly affected if she is an ineffective teacher. Hiding information about a previously unsuccessful teaching job at a charter school from DCPS principals trying to make a good hiring decision is unethical. Maybe she should look for something outside the classroom directly but still in the field of education. She might find something she likes and it more successful doing. Lots of education-connected non-profits in the area.

I’m sorry, but it seems I was unclear. I thought I noted in my PS at the end of the OP that I am trying to discourage her. I agree with everything you say. She is somewhat aware that she’s not a good teacher, but that hasn’t discouraged her yet. I’m hoping DCPS and DCPCS communicate and her past firing would be a roadblock to being hired.

Anonymous wrote:OP, I’ve taught in both DCPS and DC charter schools, they generally don’t care if you mention fear of retaliation. Also you’re more likely to get a job closer to August, although sometimes the pickings are slim. DCPS despite the facade that it puts out is in desperate need of teachers. Most school districts these days take what hey can get as the workload keeps increasing, pay stagnates and student loans will *only* pay off your entire debt if you work in a high stressed, highly impoverished school. As long as you don’t have any red flags in your background check you are pretty solid. I wish caution you about applying to DC charter schools. They don’t have many rights and are often at-will employees, I’ve seen people walked out at the end of the day with little warning about what they did wrong and without so much as a 30 intervention plan. Like all work places politics matter but teaching in DCPS is often a landmine. I would suggest that you try to get into one of the better DCPS schools. Now that IMPACT is gone you might have a little time for the school admin to allow you to grow into your classroom manangenent style.

Anonymous wrote:While it’s understandable that you want to help your friend, please consider that children will be directly affected if she is an ineffective teacher. Hiding information about a previously unsuccessful teaching job at a charter school from DCPS principals trying to make a good hiring decision is unethical. Maybe she should look for something outside the classroom directly but still in the field of education. She might find something she likes and it more successful doing. Lots of education-connected non-profits in the area.