In the world of online dating, being short is a big disadvantage because of how nasty and superficial women are on there

Sometimes they even ask for a guy's height with the first message

Anonymous wrote:My husband is 6’2” and was never a tall kid / tallest kid in his class. He continues to grow all through college - needing longer pants. I’ve seen pics of his work his friends in jr high and HS where they are all roughly the same height. The other men are now 5’9-5’11” as adults. You never know.

yes, my husband is 6'4" and grew 6" of this in college. We went to his high school reunion and that's all anyone said to him: "nice to see you! holy crap: when did you get so tall?"

My husband is 6’2” and was never a tall kid / tallest kid in his class. He continues to grow all through college - needing longer pants. I’ve seen pics of his work his friends in jr high and HS where they are all roughly the same height. The other men are now 5’9-5’11” as adults. You never know.

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Anonymous wrote:PS: whole milk has more than 1.5 x the calories of regular Coke.

The difference is milk has protein, vitamins, and fat that fills them up. Both my milk drinkers are slim.

Sure. But it is full of calories*, and of the many things attributed to driving height in this thread, only genetics and calories have an evidence basis.



*That doesn't mean they are empty calories. It also doesn't mean your kids were getting too many calories for the energy they outlay -- obviously, not. Still doesn't change the fact that milk is an excellent source of a lot of calories. So are beans, avocados, olive oil -- none of which lack other nutrients, yes?

Daily milk actually does have an evidence base for increased height
https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/106/2/597/4557638

You realize, right, that there are significantly fewer calories in plant-based milks, and that this study did nothing to control for the effect of total calories?

Or am I wrong and missing something?

Ok this may sound nuts. Installed a bar to the door frame of DS's room. He was always a milk drinker, but not with meals. He just turned 16 and maybe 5'4 or 5'5 so short for age. Bone age shows open growth plates. Young voice, not much facial hair. I asked him to hang from bar without chin ups or resistance, every morning/night to open up his vertebrae. Also asked him to drink whole organic milk often but especially before bed. He's only been doing it since 4/7. I see a difference. It may just be his natural growth kicking in but he's noticeably taller in the morning, as we all are.

Try it, nothing to lose.

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Anonymous wrote:PS: whole milk has more than 1.5 x the calories of regular Coke.

The difference is milk has protein, vitamins, and fat that fills them up. Both my milk drinkers are slim.

Sure. But it is full of calories*, and of the many things attributed to driving height in this thread, only genetics and calories have an evidence basis.



*That doesn't mean they are empty calories. It also doesn't mean your kids were getting too many calories for the energy they outlay -- obviously, not. Still doesn't change the fact that milk is an excellent source of a lot of calories. So are beans, avocados, olive oil -- none of which lack other nutrients, yes?

Daily milk actually does have an evidence base for increased height
https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/106/2/597/4557638

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Anonymous wrote:PS: whole milk has more than 1.5 x the calories of regular Coke.

The difference is milk has protein, vitamins, and fat that fills them up. Both my milk drinkers are slim.

Sure. But it is full of calories*, and of the many things attributed to driving height in this thread, only genetics and calories have an evidence basis.



*That doesn't mean they are empty calories. It also doesn't mean your kids were getting too many calories for the energy they outlay -- obviously, not. Still doesn't change the fact that milk is an excellent source of a lot of calories. So are beans, avocados, olive oil -- none of which lack other nutrients, yes?

Anonymous wrote:PS: whole milk has more than 1.5 x the calories of regular Coke.

The difference is milk has protein, vitamins, and fat that fills them up. Both my milk drinkers are slim.

My 14 yr old DS is 5'1" and is the smallest in his class including the girls. His class just did end of year presentations and everyone was taller than he is. It has been this way since 5th grade when the girls hit their growth spurts. He has short parents (we are both 5'4' or so). He grew 3 inches last year, 3 inches the year before and 2 inches the year before that. So decent growth but not a lot of genetic potential. He weighs in the mid 80s or so. He sprained his knee this past fall and after looking at the x-ray, the doctor said he had a lot of room left to grow which was good news. My brother grew into his college years if I remember correctly. If my DS is concerned about his height, he has never said much about it.

PS: whole milk has more than 1.5 x the calories of regular Coke.

Anonymous wrote:My younger son started drinking vast quantities of whole milk when he was 7 while his older brother by 2 years drinks water. They both were around the 20th percentile for height. Three years later and my 10 year old milk drinker is now the same height as his 12 year old brother. We now encourage our oldest son to drink as much milk as possible.

Skim milk has about the same calories as Coca-Cola, ounce for ounce.

My younger son started drinking vast quantities of whole milk when he was 7 while his older brother by 2 years drinks water. They both were around the 20th percentile for height. Three years later and my 10 year old milk drinker is now the same height as his 12 year old brother. We now encourage our oldest son to drink as much milk as possible.

Anonymous wrote:2nd kid consumed tons of milk and meat with hormones, antibiotics, etc. Is 5 inches shorter than sister who was vegetarian from grade school and drank organic milk.

Yep. And when you look at cultures that are aggressively organic, like the Amish, you don't get super-tall children, or super-smart, or different puberty ranges.

The one thing clearly correlating with increased height is a surplus of calories that are effectively absorbed and utilized by the body.

https://kidshealth.org/en/parents/failure-thrive.html

Anonymous wrote:Boys can grow until about age 18 to 20. If he does end up 5 ft 6 or 7, it’s a little short but not bad because many women are 5 ft 6 or shorter. I wouldn’t worry about it! Tell him not to worry.

Not all of these women will want to marry a 5’6” man —especially because they might want to avoid having shorter than average sons. Many men like petite women, so there’s a lot of competition for a 5’0”-5’6” woman.

Tell him to try dating or walking out the house being black. He will no longer be concerned that he is short