Anonymous
Post 05/17/2019 09:10     Subject: Girls ECNL Regional League - Virginia
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is such a clusterF. Too many clubs and egos and too much money involved to get anything productive done. All the stupid leagues and the far flung travel just make the sport less accessible and more expensive in time and money.

There is no reason for 12 year olds to travel to PA and SC to play league games. I just wished they would burn the whole thing down and start over. National/regional club hierarchies and defined player progression for players - neighborhood clubs feeding regional clubs, feeding professional clubs. But it will never happen. Instead we’ll just pay 3k/year to the club and rack up car and plane trips to play teams that are basically the same as the one 15 minutes away.


Did you even read the press release and the clubs involved and the word "Regional"?


Yes, I can read, and this news does not exist in a vacuum. Explain to me how DA, ECNL, ECNL regional, CCL, CCLII, NCSL, ODSL and whatever other leagues I missed are all necessary? How do they add anything other than confusion, disorganization, and cost to the situation?

Imagine if we had a clear hierarchy from the pro teams to second tier of regional training center clubs, down to another tier of neighborhoods clubs. With staff that actively push their players up through that developmental setup - coaches that are actively developing players rather than trying to build teams to win and keep parents happy so that they get paid. Clubs that are there to develop players, rather than fight over the parents checkbooks.

You can’t tell me there aren’t enough players in dc/md/noVA to field 8 competitive teams that would negate any need to drive to ny/pa/nj/nc/sc or even Roanoke or va beach for youth league games. It should not cost this much and it should not be this hard. If you make it to the top and are on the pro youth team - sure, maybe travel would make sense. But it won’t happen, because every club wants to be elite, and you can’t be elite if there aren’t teams in your league from the middle of nowhere.


Lol @ you
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2019 09:03     Subject: Girls ECNL Regional League - Virginia
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:AT what age will this new ECNL Regional start? NPL starts at U11 but ECNL doesn't start until U13? Will the upcoming U12 teams in the NPL have to go back to the NCSL for a year?


When you married and your wife changed her name she was still the same person.


Maybe, but they all seem to turn into beeyatches over time just like soccer leagues and clubs.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2019 09:03     Subject: Girls ECNL Regional League - Virginia
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:AT what age will this new ECNL Regional start? NPL starts at U11 but ECNL doesn't start until U13? Will the upcoming U12 teams in the NPL have to go back to the NCSL for a year?


When you married and your wife changed her name she was still the same person.


Yeah, but she became so much more attractive after dumping her maiden name. Hence the "rebranding" approach.


This rebranding is part of a much larger ECNL initiative overall. For the coming year, yes, it is just ECNL, but the foundation is being laid for a larger reorganization.

It is clear that ECNL will absorb NPL teams and create a more cohesive national structure with promotion and relaxation the likely outcome. By next year the Mid Atlantic Conference will likely be split up with Virginia based teams forming a true ECNL conference with pro/rel within. ECNL needs to NPL by NPL to accomplish this but that is likely the endgame within 3 years.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2019 08:57     Subject: Girls ECNL Regional League - Virginia
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:AT what age will this new ECNL Regional start? NPL starts at U11 but ECNL doesn't start until U13? Will the upcoming U12 teams in the NPL have to go back to the NCSL for a year?


When you married and your wife changed her name she was still the same person.


Yeah, but she became so much more attractive after dumping her maiden name. Hence the "rebranding" approach.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2019 07:38     Subject: Girls ECNL Regional League - Virginia
Anonymous wrote:AT what age will this new ECNL Regional start? NPL starts at U11 but ECNL doesn't start until U13? Will the upcoming U12 teams in the NPL have to go back to the NCSL for a year?


When you married and your wife changed her name she was still the same person.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2019 07:34     Subject: Girls ECNL Regional League - Virginia
AT what age will this new ECNL Regional start? NPL starts at U11 but ECNL doesn't start until U13? Will the upcoming U12 teams in the NPL have to go back to the NCSL for a year?
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2019 06:09     Subject: Girls ECNL Regional League - Virginia
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How does ECNL - ALL IN play into this?


It doesn’t.


Soon they will announce SFL is becoming ECNL REC.


You have the name wrong. It's ECNL Neighborhood.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2019 05:35     Subject: Girls ECNL Regional League - Virginia
Welcome to ECNL, Chantilly!
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2019 00:53     Subject: Re:Girls ECNL Regional League - Virginia
More importantly for US Club soccer, it allows them to jettison the poorly considered NPL brand name and attract / keep some suckers that think their kid and their team are now magically playing in the true ECNL league. Lipstick on a pig is all it is, but some clubs and coaches will take advantage of the new branding and try to sell people on it. Pretty good scam if you ask me.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2019 21:25     Subject: Girls ECNL Regional League - Virginia
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is such a clusterF. Too many clubs and egos and too much money involved to get anything productive done. All the stupid leagues and the far flung travel just make the sport less accessible and more expensive in time and money.

There is no reason for 12 year olds to travel to PA and SC to play league games. I just wished they would burn the whole thing down and start over. National/regional club hierarchies and defined player progression for players - neighborhood clubs feeding regional clubs, feeding professional clubs. But it will never happen. Instead we’ll just pay 3k/year to the club and rack up car and plane trips to play teams that are basically the same as the one 15 minutes away.


Did you even read the press release and the clubs involved and the word "Regional"?


Yes, I can read, and this news does not exist in a vacuum. Explain to me how DA, ECNL, ECNL regional, CCL, CCLII, NCSL, ODSL and whatever other leagues I missed are all necessary? How do they add anything other than confusion, disorganization, and cost to the situation?

Imagine if we had a clear hierarchy from the pro teams to second tier of regional training center clubs, down to another tier of neighborhoods clubs. With staff that actively push their players up through that developmental setup - coaches that are actively developing players rather than trying to build teams to win and keep parents happy so that they get paid. Clubs that are there to develop players, rather than fight over the parents checkbooks.

You can’t tell me there aren’t enough players in dc/md/noVA to field 8 competitive teams that would negate any need to drive to ny/pa/nj/nc/sc or even Roanoke or va beach for youth league games. It should not cost this much and it should not be this hard. If you make it to the top and are on the pro youth team - sure, maybe travel would make sense. But it won’t happen, because every club wants to be elite, and you can’t be elite if there aren’t teams in your league from the middle of nowhere.


Now that you have gotten that rant out if your system, lets return to the thread topic which is this new ecnl regional league. This league actually aligns with what you want to an extent. It appears to be confined to the state, limiting travel to an extent. It is aligned with a national league providing options for high performing teams. It should provide more visibility for these players.
ECNL has its issues but is still the most well run youth league. This is about as close to consolidation as we are gonna get. Lets see what they do with it.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2019 21:14     Subject: Girls ECNL Regional League - Virginia
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is such a clusterF. Too many clubs and egos and too much money involved to get anything productive done. All the stupid leagues and the far flung travel just make the sport less accessible and more expensive in time and money.

There is no reason for 12 year olds to travel to PA and SC to play league games. I just wished they would burn the whole thing down and start over. National/regional club hierarchies and defined player progression for players - neighborhood clubs feeding regional clubs, feeding professional clubs. But it will never happen. Instead we’ll just pay 3k/year to the club and rack up car and plane trips to play teams that are basically the same as the one 15 minutes away.


Did you even read the press release and the clubs involved and the word "Regional"?


Yes, I can read, and this news does not exist in a vacuum. Explain to me how DA, ECNL, ECNL regional, CCL, CCLII, NCSL, ODSL and whatever other leagues I missed are all necessary? How do they add anything other than confusion, disorganization, and cost to the situation?

Imagine if we had a clear hierarchy from the pro teams to second tier of regional training center clubs, down to another tier of neighborhoods clubs. With staff that actively push their players up through that developmental setup - coaches that are actively developing players rather than trying to build teams to win and keep parents happy so that they get paid. Clubs that are there to develop players, rather than fight over the parents checkbooks.

You can’t tell me there aren’t enough players in dc/md/noVA to field 8 competitive teams that would negate any need to drive to ny/pa/nj/nc/sc or even Roanoke or va beach for youth league games. It should not cost this much and it should not be this hard. If you make it to the top and are on the pro youth team - sure, maybe travel would make sense. But it won’t happen, because every club wants to be elite, and you can’t be elite if there aren’t teams in your league from the middle of nowhere.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2019 18:13     Subject: Girls ECNL Regional League - Virginia
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How does ECNL - ALL IN play into this?


It doesn’t.


Soon they will announce SFL is becoming ECNL REC.

Wouldn’t surprise me a bit
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2019 16:37     Subject: Girls ECNL Regional League - Virginia
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How does ECNL - ALL IN play into this?


It doesn’t.


Soon they will announce SFL is becoming ECNL REC.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2019 16:33     Subject: Girls ECNL Regional League - Virginia
Anonymous wrote:How does ECNL - ALL IN play into this?


It doesn’t.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2019 16:32     Subject: Re:Girls ECNL Regional League - Virginia
What about boys? Press release says girls regional ECNL. Are they re-branding boys teams too?