Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The spying is mostly an excuse to just lock Huawei out of the US market. Where do you think the iPhone is made?

This is just more economic pressure on China to play ball on tariffs.

LOL, it's not like they've never found Huawei to provide backdoors on their equipment. It's not like China doesn't have an actual law that mandates private businesses to assist China's intelligence agencies upon request. It's not like China has not demonstrated they have used their control over large companies like WeChat to gather data and implement the will of the communist government.

Why don't Trump make similar demands on Ericsson's equipment? Why isn't Trump vocal about T-Mobile operating in the US?

Why doesn't he? Every vendor has backdoors in their equipment. China is being punished for not being "cooperative".

Exactly, isn't that obvious? Things we are okay with Canada or the UK doing, we are not okay with China doing, because they have shown themselves to maintain an adversarial position against US and our allies, and approach opportunities of cooperation with bad faith.

Anonymous wrote:The US isn't the only country blocking this company from operating wihin their borders for the same reason. This isn't just a US/Trump thing. Stop letting your hatred of Trump blind you to good ideas.

No one on here said it was a bad idea. No one.

Anonymous wrote:Wake up people. I have a friend who works for homeland security and she said the gov has the means to spy on anyone with a phone or wifi.. You have to be completely off the grid if you don't want to be spied on. I think we will enter a world of two technologies.

Your friend shouldn't be telling you that, depending on what she said of course.

Regardless, we already know of several classified programs that were collecting metadata (which isn't data, you can clearly see data is not in metadata) on every phone call in the US. I am sure that included interesting things like your approximate position. Is Huawei any worse the US government? I don't really know. It hasn't been proven that is some backdoor leaking all your data back to China. The experts worry that the data is being encoded with some sort of steganography that is difficult to spot. I sort of doubt it currently exists. Could China do it? Yes. But the US has real businesses that are actively spying on anyone with a phone and the Facebook app (or hundreds of others) installed. Apparently, this doesn't worry anyone. Ever wonder if the government might be getting a feed from Facebook too?

If we ban Huawei, I don't see any reason not to ban all the Chinese telco equipment. So this appears to just be a show since it only focuses on a very visible company in China.

The US isn't the only country blocking this company from operating wihin their borders for the same reason. This isn't just a US/Trump thing. Stop letting your hatred of Trump blind you to good ideas.

Anonymous wrote:Wake up people. I have a friend who works for homeland security and she said the gov has the means to spy on anyone with a phone or wifi.. You have to be completely off the grid if you don't want to be spied on. I think we will enter a world of two technologies.

True.

Alexa was designed to listen to your every word; ever hear of a “cache?” It is all recorded, saved.

IOT = internet of things. It’s essentially Alexa-like technology everywhere. It is all saved. And the government can (and does) monitor it all at will.

Wake up people. I have a friend who works for homeland security and she said the gov has the means to spy on anyone with a phone or wifi.. You have to be completely off the grid if you don't want to be spied on. I think we will enter a world of two technologies.

I don’t buy Chinese Tech ever. No matter how cheap that Lenovo think pad is, thanks.

Anonymous wrote:Huawei has been persona non grata in the US market for years, in particular the Federal market. This isn't a Trump thing.

This!

Anonymous wrote:The spying is mostly an excuse to just lock Huawei out of the US market. Where do you think the iPhone is made?

This is just more economic pressure on China to play ball on tariffs.

It’s an American company that keeps a tight grip on IP. The software is made here. The hardware is made there.

Here is the EO
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/05/15/president-trump-declares-national-emergency-for-information-and-communication-technology/

Good for Trump. It won't only be Huawei, but others as well.
This is great for American companies - we built the internet, we maintain a large part of it and well over 65% of the worldds traffic flows through Northern Virginia. The US should protect it's investment. If we ever decided to cut out Northern VA, the world networks would crash or come to a screeching halt.

Anonymous wrote:This is someone behind the scenes (NSC, maybe?) sneaking some good national defense policy into Trump’s xenophobic trade feud. Huawei is a threat.

It’s so pathetic that we have a president who has to be tricked into implementing good policy,

This is someone behind the scenes (NSC, maybe?) sneaking some good national defense policy into Trump’s xenophobic trade feud. Huawei is a threat.

Anonymous wrote:Obviously Huawei has some big issues and this is definitely a debate worth happening, but I have a hard time taking it seriously as Trump’s motivation when he is so notoriously lax about information and data security.

+1. This. We are currently engaged in a cyber-cold war. Huawei is certainly party of the discussion. But, we need to be having a much bigger discussion. Like now.

Obviously Huawei has some big issues and this is definitely a debate worth happening, but I have a hard time taking it seriously as Trump’s motivation when he is so notoriously lax about information and data security.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The spying is mostly an excuse to just lock Huawei out of the US market. Where do you think the iPhone is made?

This is just more economic pressure on China to play ball on tariffs.

Yeah no. You clearly don’t get it.

At all.

Care to explain?