Anonymous wrote:How much is DA/ECNL vs regular travel?

These were the current figures for the Baltimore DA

Costs

The costs for the 2018/19 Academy year are as follows:

Commitment / GAP Fee – $500
Due at the time of offer acceptance in order to hold the player’s roster spot. Includes – U.S. Soccer registration fees and spring/summer training prior to starting of official DA training in August. This training includes at least two sessions where the players will get to watch pro training, eat lunch with the players, then train themselves at the Maryland SoccerPlex. New players joining after August 31st will only have to pay $250.

Club Dues – $3000
This can be paid-in-full, in 2 payments, or on an 8-month payment plan (8-month plan will include a $200 finance charge). Payments can begin as early as July 5, or will begin upon joining the program if that is after July 5. Finance charges and any payment finance charges will be included in the first payment. The Club Dues covers all official DA seasonal expenses for training and games as well as equipment, trainers, video, coaches, and administration. For the payment plan, in addition to the initial payment, monthly payment due dates will be Aug. 5, Sep. 5, Oct. 5, Nov. 5, Jan. 5, Feb. 5, Mar. 5, Apr. 5 (note no payment due in December). If you are registering after the scheduled payment plans begin, those missed payment amounts will be charged up front.

Winter Fee – Not to Exceed $750*
As the fall competitive season progresses, the club’s technical staff will determine what level of winter programming is needed to prepare the teams for the 2nd half of the DA season on March 1. This could include futsal, strength & conditioning, outdoor training, or all the above. *The exact invoice amount will be determined and communicated no later than November 1, 2018, but will not be more than $750. Payment plans will also be offered.

Player Uniforms and Gear – $350
New for this season, the players will wear the same NIKE uniforms as our NWSL professional team, as well as a full set of training gear, pants, pull-over, training tops and shorts, socks, a rain jacket [Edited: During pre-season planning, it was decided to add game-day shirts and warm up tops, as well as additional game shorts in substitute to the rain jacket in budgets. This change was reflected in the FAQ and the registration process, but was not immediately edited here.], and a backpack. This invoice will be issued as players sign up. Players will receive their practice gear before the first summer session, but the will not receive their uniforms until this bill is paid in full and remain in good standing for their Commitment Fee and Club Dues.

Travel Costs – TBD
Players will be invoiced well in advance for club-organized travel events that involve a bus, air, hotels, and/or group meals. This will include costs incurred for the coaching staff to attend these same events averaged across all attending players. If we do any non-DA events that require an entry fee, those will also be included in the travel invoice for that event. Invoices must be satisfied prior to departure for an event. Any difference between the invoiced amount and the actual costs of the trip will be applied to the next invoice, which includes the full trip amount if a player ends up not being rostered for an away trip. At the end of the season, any credit balance in this “Travel Fund” can either be carried over to the following season or refunded. If a player does not use team arranged air, that must be communicated in advance. However, all players who participate in an event will be responsible for bus, hotel, meal, and coaches’ travel as those costs cannot be avoided on a per-player basis even if that player does not use the bus, stay in a team hotel, or eat with the team. Each family must also maintain a $100 Travel Fund security deposit, which will be carried over for returning players or will be included in the first travel invoice of the 2018/19 season. If a player leaves the program, any credit balance for travel will be refunded as long as all club that player is in good financial standing with the club in all other areas.

How much is DA/ECNL vs regular travel?

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Anonymous wrote:How are you all comparing prices, high or low, without knowing what's covered? Some clubs include futsal, some don't. Some include tournament fees, some don't. I have done the budget for teams and the only way to have something as low as 1600 is if you aren't paying the coaches. If you are paying the coaches, you are in a league, you play 3-5 tournaments in a year, and you add in lesser costs like county fees and so on, it's hard to be under $2000 until you get to U13 when the size of the rosters help lower the costs.

I'm the poster paying 1600. We are a small club so those fees are low. Our coach is definitely being paid, lol. But of course we are not his FT job. Our fees include: training, 2-3 tournaments per season, winter training, futsal (though we are moving away from that), and even a summer camp (just three hours per day for one week). It doesn't include a uniform (less than $100). We also don't force families to purchase the other gear (sweatshirts, bags, pants, etc)...all optional.

Are your rosters huge? I just don't see how it's possible unless the coaches are paid very, very little. I am with a small club, too, and I have done the budget. The money that goes to the club isn't all that much (no one is getting rich at this club). Absolutely everything else goes: to the league, to the tournaments, to the county, and so on. Even at the older ages when the kids have 16 on the roster, the cost is still higher than 1600.

Could this be for a paid coached team playing in a Select Team (MSI Classic or similar)?

No...we are in NoVa.

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Anonymous wrote:How are you all comparing prices, high or low, without knowing what's covered? Some clubs include futsal, some don't. Some include tournament fees, some don't. I have done the budget for teams and the only way to have something as low as 1600 is if you aren't paying the coaches. If you are paying the coaches, you are in a league, you play 3-5 tournaments in a year, and you add in lesser costs like county fees and so on, it's hard to be under $2000 until you get to U13 when the size of the rosters help lower the costs.

I'm the poster paying 1600. We are a small club so those fees are low. Our coach is definitely being paid, lol. But of course we are not his FT job. Our fees include: training, 2-3 tournaments per season, winter training, futsal (though we are moving away from that), and even a summer camp (just three hours per day for one week). It doesn't include a uniform (less than $100). We also don't force families to purchase the other gear (sweatshirts, bags, pants, etc)...all optional.

Are your rosters huge? I just don't see how it's possible unless the coaches are paid very, very little. I am with a small club, too, and I have done the budget. The money that goes to the club isn't all that much (no one is getting rich at this club). Absolutely everything else goes: to the league, to the tournaments, to the county, and so on. Even at the older ages when the kids have 16 on the roster, the cost is still higher than 1600.

No...we have 17 (one team).

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Anonymous wrote:How are you all comparing prices, high or low, without knowing what's covered? Some clubs include futsal, some don't. Some include tournament fees, some don't. I have done the budget for teams and the only way to have something as low as 1600 is if you aren't paying the coaches. If you are paying the coaches, you are in a league, you play 3-5 tournaments in a year, and you add in lesser costs like county fees and so on, it's hard to be under $2000 until you get to U13 when the size of the rosters help lower the costs.

I'm the poster paying 1600. We are a small club so those fees are low. Our coach is definitely being paid, lol. But of course we are not his FT job. Our fees include: training, 2-3 tournaments per season, winter training, futsal (though we are moving away from that), and even a summer camp (just three hours per day for one week). It doesn't include a uniform (less than $100). We also don't force families to purchase the other gear (sweatshirts, bags, pants, etc)...all optional.

Are your rosters huge? I just don't see how it's possible unless the coaches are paid very, very little. I am with a small club, too, and I have done the budget. The money that goes to the club isn't all that much (no one is getting rich at this club). Absolutely everything else goes: to the league, to the tournaments, to the county, and so on. Even at the older ages when the kids have 16 on the roster, the cost is still higher than 1600.

Could this be for a paid coached team playing in a Select Team (MSI Classic or similar)?

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Anonymous wrote:How are you all comparing prices, high or low, without knowing what's covered? Some clubs include futsal, some don't. Some include tournament fees, some don't. I have done the budget for teams and the only way to have something as low as 1600 is if you aren't paying the coaches. If you are paying the coaches, you are in a league, you play 3-5 tournaments in a year, and you add in lesser costs like county fees and so on, it's hard to be under $2000 until you get to U13 when the size of the rosters help lower the costs.

I'm the poster paying 1600. We are a small club so those fees are low. Our coach is definitely being paid, lol. But of course we are not his FT job. Our fees include: training, 2-3 tournaments per season, winter training, futsal (though we are moving away from that), and even a summer camp (just three hours per day for one week). It doesn't include a uniform (less than $100). We also don't force families to purchase the other gear (sweatshirts, bags, pants, etc)...all optional.

Are your rosters huge? I just don't see how it's possible unless the coaches are paid very, very little. I am with a small club, too, and I have done the budget. The money that goes to the club isn't all that much (no one is getting rich at this club). Absolutely everything else goes: to the league, to the tournaments, to the county, and so on. Even at the older ages when the kids have 16 on the roster, the cost is still higher than 1600.

2500 for one of my kids, did not include uniforms, tournament fees, indoor training/league, and other misc fees. After it's all said and done it was almost 3k.

Other kid is 3100, and that was pretty much inclusive of everything. Meaning nothing else was asked through the year.

Both practiced 3x a week and 1x a week during winter. I would budget for 2-3k per player. Don't get me started on gas, food, hotel, etc. But the family time we get is worth the price.

Anonymous wrote:How are you all comparing prices, high or low, without knowing what's covered? Some clubs include futsal, some don't. Some include tournament fees, some don't. I have done the budget for teams and the only way to have something as low as 1600 is if you aren't paying the coaches. If you are paying the coaches, you are in a league, you play 3-5 tournaments in a year, and you add in lesser costs like county fees and so on, it's hard to be under $2000 until you get to U13 when the size of the rosters help lower the costs.

I'm the poster paying 1600. We are a small club so those fees are low. Our coach is definitely being paid, lol. But of course we are not his FT job. Our fees include: training, 2-3 tournaments per season, winter training, futsal (though we are moving away from that), and even a summer camp (just three hours per day for one week). It doesn't include a uniform (less than $100). We also don't force families to purchase the other gear (sweatshirts, bags, pants, etc)...all optional.

Anonymous wrote:Typically there are three sets of fees for a travel team.

1). Club fees. This covers coaching, league fees, rostering fees, and fields. At larger clubs it also covers admin overhead.

2) Team fees. Typically administered by the volunteer team treasurer or manager. Covers tournaments, coaching travel and per diem, sometimes referee fees, winter indoor space rental, team equipment, and other minor misc.items.

3) Individual fees. Uniforms, travel, summer camp, and optional supplemental training.

If you add all of these together and are getting out under $3,000 all in, consider yourself lucky. Almost all travel teams practice 3 times a week with 12-18 league games per year, and 4-6 tournaments a year. Two of those are out of town necessitating travel costs. Many teams play either futsal or indoor during the winter and have a residential summer camp. So prepare to spend $30,000 or more if your kid starts at U9 and plays thru high school age. If you have multiple kids, then ... well you get the picture.

Seems about accurate- then if you are on upper level teams you add in State Cup/Presidents Cup (in addition to the 4-6 tourneys noted above), if playing in EDP your most likely in the EDP Open Cup (NL Cup now), etc etc. 1 or 2 winter fustal leagues, indoor practices, conditioning, etc etc.

Typically there are three sets of fees for a travel team.

1). Club fees. This covers coaching, league fees, rostering fees, and fields. At larger clubs it also covers admin overhead.

2) Team fees. Typically administered by the volunteer team treasurer or manager. Covers tournaments, coaching travel and per diem, sometimes referee fees, winter indoor space rental, team equipment, and other minor misc.items.

3) Individual fees. Uniforms, travel, summer camp, and optional supplemental training.

If you add all of these together and are getting out under $3,000 all in, consider yourself lucky. Almost all travel teams practice 3 times a week with 12-18 league games per year, and 4-6 tournaments a year. Two of those are out of town necessitating travel costs. Many teams play either futsal or indoor during the winter and have a residential summer camp. So prepare to spend $30,000 or more if your kid starts at U9 and plays thru high school age. If you have multiple kids, then ... well you get the picture.

How are you all comparing prices, high or low, without knowing what's covered? Some clubs include futsal, some don't. Some include tournament fees, some don't. I have done the budget for teams and the only way to have something as low as 1600 is if you aren't paying the coaches. If you are paying the coaches, you are in a league, you play 3-5 tournaments in a year, and you add in lesser costs like county fees and so on, it's hard to be under $2000 until you get to U13 when the size of the rosters help lower the costs.

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Anonymous wrote:MSI is going to cost 2175$ for 2 practice a week and NCSL league. Now is it just me or does this seem a bit much, usually most clubs have 3 practices a week.

How much does your club cost?

That is high. Our team has 3x practices per week. $1600 for year.

$1600 seems on the low side. What club is that?

When did we the parents decide 1600$ a year for soccer is on the low side? You just need a soccer ball and a field..

Oh you must be a coach or admin that really need to make 90k a year

Nice comment. Most of these coaches are making much less than that, working the coaching job in addition to another job to make ends meet in this very expensive area.

You are free to have your kids play rec or pickup if you don’t want to spend the $1600-2k.

Not the previous poster, but someone must be raking in the cash. Soccer clubs book the county fields on the cheap and then charge thousands of dollars to hundreds of families, who paid for these fields through taxes. When my kids started to play, the top clubs were charging around $1100-1200. This would be considered cheap now. This is not a good trend.

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Anonymous wrote:MSI is going to cost 2175$ for 2 practice a week and NCSL league. Now is it just me or does this seem a bit much, usually most clubs have 3 practices a week.

How much does your club cost?

That is high. Our team has 3x practices per week. $1600 for year.

$1600 seems on the low side. What club is that?

When did we the parents decide 1600$ a year for soccer is on the low side? You just need a soccer ball and a field..

Oh you must be a coach or admin that really need to make 90k a year

Nice comment. Most of these coaches are making much less than that, working the coaching job in addition to another job to make ends meet in this very expensive area.

You are free to have your kids play rec or pickup if you don’t want to spend the $1600-2k.

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Anonymous wrote:MSI is going to cost 2175$ for 2 practice a week and NCSL league. Now is it just me or does this seem a bit much, usually most clubs have 3 practices a week.

How much does your club cost?

That is high. Our team has 3x practices per week. $1600 for year.

$1600 seems on the low side. What club is that?

When did we the parents decide 1600$ a year for soccer is on the low side? You just need a soccer ball and a field..

Oh you must be a coach or admin that really need to make 90k a year

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Anonymous wrote:MSI is going to cost 2175$ for 2 practice a week and NCSL league. Now is it just me or does this seem a bit much, usually most clubs have 3 practices a week.

How much does your club cost?

That is high. Our team has 3x practices per week. $1600 for year.

$1600 seems on the low side. What club is that?