Anonymous
04/14/2019 12:47
Subject: Boundary review can’t come soon enough
Anonymous wrote:I like that way of looking at the possibilities. It’s an easy decision that people will disagree with based on proximity ie segregation.
It is because of the perceived "segregation" in Upper NW that the politicians are never going to narrow the boundaries around Deal and Wilson. This reality means that any "Boundary Review" process will be a puppet show with a lot of noise but no action.
The overcrowding problem at Deal and Wilson won't be fixed because it can't be fixed in the real world that we live in.
Anonymous
04/14/2019 10:55
Subject: Boundary review can’t come soon enough
I like that way of looking at the possibilities. It’s an easy decision that people will disagree with based on proximity ie segregation.
Anonymous
04/14/2019 10:51
Subject: Boundary review can’t come soon enough
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If everyone living in the Deal boundary would start caring about other schools and demanding improvements, the problem would be solved. But they don't, so they're stuck with the crowding.
Why is that the responsibility of those parents? Why don’t parents of students IB for other middle schools care about those schools?
They do care but they are not wealthy and influential enough, compared to everyone in the Deal boundary together.
It is the Deal parents' responsibility because they are the ones who benefit from reducing the crowding. And because of the common good, a foreign concept to upper NW I guess.
I'm still waiting for Bowser to make the Deal boundary the entire City limits, like she promised. DCPS was too chicken to do it at the last boundary review, a few years ago. Might as well try again.
Wait.. I always thought "Alice Deal For All" meant that the school's model would be replicated across all DC middle schools not that every middle school aged child in DC could go to Deal.
Whatever the case may be, anyone who thought either could be accomplished was a fool.
Look, it is actually theoretically possible to make Deal a City-wide school, whereas it is simply impossible in any of our infinite universes for the Deal numbers to be replicated anywhere else in DCPS.
Anonymous
04/14/2019 07:49
Subject: Boundary review can’t come soon enough
The OOB feeder rights debate is the wrong argument. That situation has a shelf life. Almost no one gets into Deal/Wilson feeders OOB anymore. By the time the review process occurs, most of the elementary schools feeding into Deal won’t have offered OOB seats in the compulsory grades for 5+ years and will have been putting IB kids, sometimes with siblings attending, on the waitlist for PK4.
The issue is that the number of children living inside the catchment area for those schools exceeds the capacity of the middle and high schools, not to mention their own elementary schools.
There are a lot of education problems in this city but OOB feeder access is basically working itself out. Find a new scapegoat or start agitating for additional schools with no OOB access to be opened to address capacity.
The issue is that the number of children living inside the catchment area for those schools exceeds the capacity of the middle and high schools, not to mention their own elementary schools.
There are a lot of education problems in this city but OOB feeder access is basically working itself out. Find a new scapegoat or start agitating for additional schools with no OOB access to be opened to address capacity.
Anonymous
04/14/2019 00:53
Subject: Boundary review can’t come soon enough
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My kids we early education the last time around so will be well into middle/high school the next go through.
The process brought out the worst ugliness in my neighbors/neighborhood. I am glad I will be watching from the sidelines next time.
+1, my thoughts exactly [/quot
As I recall, really the only ugly part of the last boundary review was when the Crestwoods were threatened with loss of access to Deal and Wilson, and began to squawk really loudly until they won. I can't recall any bitterness DURING the process other than that. But, once the Crestwoods won, the upper NW Deal/Wilson peoples got uppity when it became clear that the Mayor wasn't going to do anything to resolve the Deal/Wilson overcrowding problem. And the DC power structure laughed at them because, well, move to the suburbs, you privileged a-holes. So here, we are again!!
If upper northwest cares about the DC power structure screwing them, they should go out and donate to Elissa Silverman and other candidates who buck the mayor.
Anonymous
04/13/2019 20:58
Subject: Boundary review can’t come soon enough
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If everyone living in the Deal boundary would start caring about other schools and demanding improvements, the problem would be solved. But they don't, so they're stuck with the crowding.
Why is that the responsibility of those parents? Why don’t parents of students IB for other middle schools care about those schools?
They do care but they are not wealthy and influential enough, compared to everyone in the Deal boundary together.
It is the Deal parents' responsibility because they are the ones who benefit from reducing the crowding. And because of the common good, a foreign concept to upper NW I guess.
I'm still waiting for Bowser to make the Deal boundary the entire City limits, like she promised. DCPS was too chicken to do it at the last boundary review, a few years ago. Might as well try again.
Wait.. I always thought "Alice Deal For All" meant that the school's model would be replicated across all DC middle schools not that every middle school aged child in DC could go to Deal.
Whatever the case may be, anyone who thought either could be accomplished was a fool.
Anonymous
04/13/2019 17:10
Subject: Boundary review can’t come soon enough
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My kids we early education the last time around so will be well into middle/high school the next go through.
The process brought out the worst ugliness in my neighbors/neighborhood. I am glad I will be watching from the sidelines next time.
+1, my thoughts exactly [/quot
As I recall, really the only ugly part of the last boundary review was when the Crestwoods were threatened with loss of access to Deal and Wilson, and began to squawk really loudly until they won. I can't recall any bitterness DURING the process other than that. But, once the Crestwoods won, the upper NW Deal/Wilson peoples got uppity when it became clear that the Mayor wasn't going to do anything to resolve the Deal/Wilson overcrowding problem. And the DC power structure laughed at them because, well, move to the suburbs, you privileged a-holes. So here, we are again!!
This is incorrect. Crestwood/16th St. Heights were zoned out of Deal. The concession was that they got grandfathered into Deal for a few years.
Anonymous
04/13/2019 16:57
Subject: Boundary review can’t come soon enough
Anonymous wrote:If everyone living in the Deal boundary would start caring about other schools and demanding improvements, the problem would be solved. But they don't, so they're stuck with the crowding.
Half the OOB kids at our WOTP school are white high SES. Feeder rights have to end. The policy has outlived its useful and now is having the opposite intended affect.
Anonymous
04/13/2019 16:29
Subject: Boundary review can’t come soon enough
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If everyone living in the Deal boundary would start caring about other schools and demanding improvements, the problem would be solved. But they don't, so they're stuck with the crowding.
Why is that the responsibility of those parents? Why don’t parents of students IB for other middle schools care about those schools?
They do care but they are not wealthy and influential enough, compared to everyone in the Deal boundary together.
It is the Deal parents' responsibility because they are the ones who benefit from reducing the crowding. And because of the common good, a foreign concept to upper NW I guess.
Pls tell me what political influence the majority of the Deal IB families have.
Don’t the families IB for other MSs benefit by having a good and not overcrowded neighborhood school?
The schools are not good or bad per se. Same curriculum. same teacher pool.
It is the students - whether advantaged or not.
Since there are only ~40% proficient of advanced student, most of whom are WOTP or in the larger charters (ie KIPP).
Until that percentage increases the schools will vary in quality.
Anonymous
04/13/2019 16:23
Subject: Boundary review can’t come soon enough
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If everyone living in the Deal boundary would start caring about other schools and demanding improvements, the problem would be solved. But they don't, so they're stuck with the crowding.
Why is that the responsibility of those parents? Why don’t parents of students IB for other middle schools care about those schools?
They do care but they are not wealthy and influential enough, compared to everyone in the Deal boundary together.
It is the Deal parents' responsibility because they are the ones who benefit from reducing the crowding. And because of the common good, a foreign concept to upper NW I guess.
Pls tell me what political influence the majority of the Deal IB families have.
Don’t the families IB for other MSs benefit by having a good and not overcrowded neighborhood school?
Anonymous
04/13/2019 16:16
Subject: Boundary review can’t come soon enough
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My kids we early education the last time around so will be well into middle/high school the next go through.
The process brought out the worst ugliness in my neighbors/neighborhood. I am glad I will be watching from the sidelines next time.
+1, my thoughts exactly [/quot
As I recall, really the only ugly part of the last boundary review was when the Crestwoods were threatened with loss of access to Deal and Wilson, and began to squawk really loudly until they won. I can't recall any bitterness DURING the process other than that. But, once the Crestwoods won, the upper NW Deal/Wilson peoples got uppity when it became clear that the Mayor wasn't going to do anything to resolve the Deal/Wilson overcrowding problem. And the DC power structure laughed at them because, well, move to the suburbs, you privileged a-holes. So here, we are again!!
Anonymous
04/13/2019 16:07
Subject: Boundary review can’t come soon enough
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If everyone living in the Deal boundary would start caring about other schools and demanding improvements, the problem would be solved. But they don't, so they're stuck with the crowding.
Why is that the responsibility of those parents? Why don’t parents of students IB for other middle schools care about those schools?
They do care but they are not wealthy and influential enough, compared to everyone in the Deal boundary together.
It is the Deal parents' responsibility because they are the ones who benefit from reducing the crowding. And because of the common good, a foreign concept to upper NW I guess.
I'm still waiting for Bowser to make the Deal boundary the entire City limits, like she promised. DCPS was too chicken to do it at the last boundary review, a few years ago. Might as well try again.
Anonymous
04/13/2019 16:04
Subject: Boundary review can’t come soon enough
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If everyone living in the Deal boundary would start caring about other schools and demanding improvements, the problem would be solved. But they don't, so they're stuck with the crowding.
Why is that the responsibility of those parents? Why don’t parents of students IB for other middle schools care about those schools?
Because you are going to have to start going to those schools if there is a boundary review that makes serious inroads in overcrowding at wotp schools. Some of you are going to have to cross the park if not for elementary than for middle and high school.
Anonymous
04/13/2019 15:33
Subject: Boundary review can’t come soon enough
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If everyone living in the Deal boundary would start caring about other schools and demanding improvements, the problem would be solved. But they don't, so they're stuck with the crowding.
Why is that the responsibility of those parents? Why don’t parents of students IB for other middle schools care about those schools?
They do care but they are not wealthy and influential enough, compared to everyone in the Deal boundary together.
It is the Deal parents' responsibility because they are the ones who benefit from reducing the crowding. And because of the common good, a foreign concept to upper NW I guess.
Anonymous
04/13/2019 15:30
Subject: Boundary review can’t come soon enough
Anonymous wrote:If everyone living in the Deal boundary would start caring about other schools and demanding improvements, the problem would be solved. But they don't, so they're stuck with the crowding.
Why is that the responsibility of those parents? Why don’t parents of students IB for other middle schools care about those schools?