Anonymous
04/12/2019 17:14
Subject: S.A.T. Administration in MCPS High Schools
My DD took the SAT at her school this week. This is the best idea MCPS has had in years. They are trying to get kids “college ready” and the SAT is a big hurdle.
We have the resources to make sure our DD takes the exam, whether or not offered at school. But this allowed her to take the exam in a comfortable environment. This decreased her stress level enormously. And it allowed a lot of other kids to take the test when they might not otherwise have that opportunity.
Thanks MCPS!
We have the resources to make sure our DD takes the exam, whether or not offered at school. But this allowed her to take the exam in a comfortable environment. This decreased her stress level enormously. And it allowed a lot of other kids to take the test when they might not otherwise have that opportunity.
Thanks MCPS!
Anonymous
04/12/2019 16:44
Subject: Re:S.A.T. Administration in MCPS High Schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MCPS teachers hate it. They're basically providing free labor for a for-profit company by being forced to act as test administrators and proctors. Instruction is interrupted.
The College Board is actually a not-for-profit organization.
The College Board is a not-for-profit in name only.
https://patch.com/new-jersey/newbrunswick/bp--the-college-board-a-very-profitable-nonprofit
As a teacher who proctored the SAT this past Tuesday, I wholeheartedly agree with the pp who stated that we hate it. While I like the idea of giving the SAT on a school day to increase access to more students, I find it appalling that MCPS provides teachers as proctors for this very profitable company.
One of two things should happen going forward:
1. The CB should pay each school what they would have paid proctors to administer the test. Included in that should be payment for the untold number of hours administrators had to work putting it all together.
2. The CB hires proctors like it would on a Saturday, freeing up teachers to do things we’re paid to do like prepping lessons, grading, planning, etc.
I am not an employee of the College Board! I am an MCPS employee and should not be doing work for the CB on the MCPS clock.
My DD and I discussed this the other day. I was wondering if the MCPS employees got paid extra for proctoring the SAT during the school day. It looks like they don't. Since the SAT without essay normally costs $47.50, is MCPS getting a better price because it is providing the proctors?
By the way, I'm assuming that teachers at your school also proctor the AP exams during the school day. Do they get paid extra for this? The SAT and AP's are the equivalent of our national exams. Someone has to proctor them. It makes sense to have classroom teachers who are familiar with teenage students and all of their tricks!
No, we are not paid anything extra to proctor the SAT nor should we be paid. It’s during our regular duty day.
In my school, teachers do NOT proctor AP exams. All students not taking an AP exam on any given testing day go through their regular schedule so we still have classes to teach while exams are given. Our school hires outside people to do the proctoring. I think many retired teachers proctor, as do some reliable substitute teachers. The CB pays for the proctors.
Anonymous
04/12/2019 11:52
Subject: Re:S.A.T. Administration in MCPS High Schools
Anonymous wrote:If MCPS wants to give vouchers for SAT and ACT tests, why not do that but still have students take the test on a regular Saturday date that they chose to register for? Disrupting an entire school day for the majority of students in a year where the school system has lost so many snow days and MCPS is arguing about the start date seems like a stupid idea.
Days lost due to College Board testing during MCPS school days: Pre-SAT, now the SAT, and all of the AP test dates.
I would rather have MCPS bring back final exams for each semester and end the College Board testing.
The whole point is to do it in school while they're already there. Doing it separately, on a Saturday, would not do that.
Anonymous
04/12/2019 11:51
Subject: Re:S.A.T. Administration in MCPS High Schools
Anonymous wrote:If MCPS wants to give vouchers for SAT and ACT tests, why not do that but still have students take the test on a regular Saturday date that they chose to register for? Disrupting an entire school day for the majority of students in a year where the school system has lost so many snow days and MCPS is arguing about the start date seems like a stupid idea.
Days lost due to College Board testing during MCPS school days: Pre-SAT, now the SAT, and all of the AP test dates.
I would rather have MCPS bring back final exams for each semester and end the College Board testing.
+1
High school teacher here. Teachers do not give AP exams. I believe our counseling department, combined with outside proctors, take care of those exams.
Anonymous
04/12/2019 08:58
Subject: Re:S.A.T. Administration in MCPS High Schools
If MCPS wants to give vouchers for SAT and ACT tests, why not do that but still have students take the test on a regular Saturday date that they chose to register for? Disrupting an entire school day for the majority of students in a year where the school system has lost so many snow days and MCPS is arguing about the start date seems like a stupid idea.
Days lost due to College Board testing during MCPS school days: Pre-SAT, now the SAT, and all of the AP test dates.
I would rather have MCPS bring back final exams for each semester and end the College Board testing.
Days lost due to College Board testing during MCPS school days: Pre-SAT, now the SAT, and all of the AP test dates.
I would rather have MCPS bring back final exams for each semester and end the College Board testing.
Anonymous
04/12/2019 08:41
Subject: S.A.T. Administration in MCPS High Schools
LOVE the idea of it. However, my dd (a sophomore, so didn't take the test) said that at her school it was administered in the windowless auditorium on a warm day and they hadn't yet turned on the A/C for the Spring. So I worry that many students took it under poor testing conditions. (Dd's teachers were complaining about their own comfort proctoring.) This is particularly bad for those who were counting on this one, free administration.
I guess the same thing could happen on a normal Saturday administration, but I wonder if the fact that they're trying to do this at large scale leads to some suboptimal compromises-- putting them all in one windowless room rather than spread into normal classrooms. Etc.
I guess the same thing could happen on a normal Saturday administration, but I wonder if the fact that they're trying to do this at large scale leads to some suboptimal compromises-- putting them all in one windowless room rather than spread into normal classrooms. Etc.
Anonymous
04/12/2019 08:31
Subject: Re:S.A.T. Administration in MCPS High Schools
Anonymous wrote:Oh come on - it's terrific, provides another opportunity (or in some cases the only opportunity) to take the SAT for students.
MCPS wants our students to be successful at college and wants them to attend good schools - so they provide this chance to improve everyone's scores and work toward that goal. Doesn't seem like a bad goal to me.
-mom of high school junior
Ditto. Mom of freshman
Anonymous
04/12/2019 08:27
Subject: Re:S.A.T. Administration in MCPS High Schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MCPS teachers hate it. They're basically providing free labor for a for-profit company by being forced to act as test administrators and proctors. Instruction is interrupted.
The College Board is actually a not-for-profit organization.
The College Board is a not-for-profit in name only.
https://patch.com/new-jersey/newbrunswick/bp--the-college-board-a-very-profitable-nonprofit
As a teacher who proctored the SAT this past Tuesday, I wholeheartedly agree with the pp who stated that we hate it. While I like the idea of giving the SAT on a school day to increase access to more students, I find it appalling that MCPS provides teachers as proctors for this very profitable company.
One of two things should happen going forward:
1. The CB should pay each school what they would have paid proctors to administer the test. Included in that should be payment for the untold number of hours administrators had to work putting it all together.
2. The CB hires proctors like it would on a Saturday, freeing up teachers to do things we’re paid to do like prepping lessons, grading, planning, etc.
I am not an employee of the College Board! I am an MCPS employee and should not be doing work for the CB on the MCPS clock.
My DD and I discussed this the other day. I was wondering if the MCPS employees got paid extra for proctoring the SAT during the school day. It looks like they don't. Since the SAT without essay normally costs $47.50, is MCPS getting a better price because it is providing the proctors?
By the way, I'm assuming that teachers at your school also proctor the AP exams during the school day. Do they get paid extra for this? The SAT and AP's are the equivalent of our national exams. Someone has to proctor them. It makes sense to have classroom teachers who are familiar with teenage students and all of their tricks!
Yes, that's my question, did MCPS get the tests for less because they are providing proctors and facilities.
Anonymous
04/11/2019 23:33
Subject: Re:S.A.T. Administration in MCPS High Schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MCPS teachers hate it. They're basically providing free labor for a for-profit company by being forced to act as test administrators and proctors. Instruction is interrupted.
The College Board is actually a not-for-profit organization.
The College Board is a not-for-profit in name only.
https://patch.com/new-jersey/newbrunswick/bp--the-college-board-a-very-profitable-nonprofit
As a teacher who proctored the SAT this past Tuesday, I wholeheartedly agree with the pp who stated that we hate it. While I like the idea of giving the SAT on a school day to increase access to more students, I find it appalling that MCPS provides teachers as proctors for this very profitable company.
One of two things should happen going forward:
1. The CB should pay each school what they would have paid proctors to administer the test. Included in that should be payment for the untold number of hours administrators had to work putting it all together.
2. The CB hires proctors like it would on a Saturday, freeing up teachers to do things we’re paid to do like prepping lessons, grading, planning, etc.
I am not an employee of the College Board! I am an MCPS employee and should not be doing work for the CB on the MCPS clock.
My DD and I discussed this the other day. I was wondering if the MCPS employees got paid extra for proctoring the SAT during the school day. It looks like they don't. Since the SAT without essay normally costs $47.50, is MCPS getting a better price because it is providing the proctors?
By the way, I'm assuming that teachers at your school also proctor the AP exams during the school day. Do they get paid extra for this? The SAT and AP's are the equivalent of our national exams. Someone has to proctor them. It makes sense to have classroom teachers who are familiar with teenage students and all of their tricks!
Anonymous
04/11/2019 22:53
Subject: Re:S.A.T. Administration in MCPS High Schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MCPS teachers hate it. They're basically providing free labor for a for-profit company by being forced to act as test administrators and proctors. Instruction is interrupted.
The College Board is actually a not-for-profit organization.
The College Board is a not-for-profit in name only.
https://patch.com/new-jersey/newbrunswick/bp--the-college-board-a-very-profitable-nonprofit
As a teacher who proctored the SAT this past Tuesday, I wholeheartedly agree with the pp who stated that we hate it. While I like the idea of giving the SAT on a school day to increase access to more students, I find it appalling that MCPS provides teachers as proctors for this very profitable company.
One of two things should happen going forward:
1. The CB should pay each school what they would have paid proctors to administer the test. Included in that should be payment for the untold number of hours administrators had to work putting it all together.
2. The CB hires proctors like it would on a Saturday, freeing up teachers to do things we’re paid to do like prepping lessons, grading, planning, etc.
I am not an employee of the College Board! I am an MCPS employee and should not be doing work for the CB on the MCPS clock.
Anonymous
04/11/2019 22:36
Subject: Re:S.A.T. Administration in MCPS High Schools
Anonymous wrote:MCPS teachers hate it. They're basically providing free labor for a for-profit company by being forced to act as test administrators and proctors. Instruction is interrupted.
The College Board is actually a not-for-profit organization.
Anonymous
04/11/2019 21:51
Subject: Re:S.A.T. Administration in MCPS High Schools
MCPS teachers hate it. They're basically providing free labor for a for-profit company by being forced to act as test administrators and proctors. Instruction is interrupted.
Anonymous
04/11/2019 21:47
Subject: S.A.T. Administration in MCPS High Schools
Sooo much privilege on this thread. Using one morning to administer the SAT to all students greatly improves the opportunities of a huge chunk of students. Find something else to complain about. Do you really think this is the reason schools are overcrowded? If only they didn't administer the SAT, my kid's school would have an abundance of elective, tiny classes, and a brand new football field!
Anonymous
04/11/2019 19:43
Subject: S.A.T. Administration in MCPS High Schools
I think its great they are doing it. My husband didn't have the financial resources to do things like the SAT. If he had that, his life would have been very different.
Anonymous
04/11/2019 18:03
Subject: S.A.T. Administration in MCPS High Schools
Very sad that people think this is a waste of money. I only wish my kids would have had this opportunity in 11th grade because I think it's wonderful preparation for the real thing and by the way, there are lots of kids who either can't afford the test or just would never sign up on their own.