Anonymous
Post 04/05/2019 15:57     Subject: Washington Business Journal - 2019 top public colleges
Anonymous wrote:The thing about ranking state schools is that there is a huge price differential depending on where you live. If you are admitted in-state and UNC but prefer UVA (and are admitted OOS), how much more is it really worth to you to go there?

The other thing is it can really depend on your major. I see Washington ranked 6 here and can certainly see that in computer science, where it can go toe to toe with almost any school, but not sure that it would be my choice overall.

The ones I think are best for one reason or another are Berkeley, UCLA, UNC, UVA, W&M, Michigan, Georgia Tech, and Texas (in no particular order).


OOS - you go with the cheapest and who offers the most merit.
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2019 15:55     Subject: Washington Business Journal - 2019 top public colleges
UConn 15 and Delaware 20.

LOL

St. Mary’s even on the list?

Come on now.
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2019 15:50     Subject: Washington Business Journal - 2019 top public colleges
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Congrats to UMD -- they've done an excellent job improving that school over the last few years.

And of course I agree with Michigan being #1. It's an outstanding school.


Except for the mold issues.


What is with you and the mold? Every building in the country has mold to one degree or another.


Georgetown is the worst with mold
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2019 14:32     Subject: Washington Business Journal - 2019 top public colleges
The thing about ranking state schools is that there is a huge price differential depending on where you live. If you are admitted in-state and UNC but prefer UVA (and are admitted OOS), how much more is it really worth to you to go there?

The other thing is it can really depend on your major. I see Washington ranked 6 here and can certainly see that in computer science, where it can go toe to toe with almost any school, but not sure that it would be my choice overall.

The ones I think are best for one reason or another are Berkeley, UCLA, UNC, UVA, W&M, Michigan, Georgia Tech, and Texas (in no particular order).
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2019 14:22     Subject: Washington Business Journal - 2019 top public colleges
Anonymous wrote:First off, I love the University of Michigan. Compared to Berkeley and UCLA? It's splitting hairs.


Not on weather.
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2019 13:42     Subject: Washington Business Journal - 2019 top public colleges
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Congrats to UMD -- they've done an excellent job improving that school over the last few years.

And of course I agree with Michigan being #1. It's an outstanding school.


Michigan overall is much, much more focused on graduate students than undergraduates.


And you know this how? DH went there and had an excellent experience. He developed relationships with professors that he keeps up to this day (and he's 33 years old). He also worked there and so he saw it from the administration side.



It has a heavy dependence on graduate teaching assistants. In sciences and engineering, communication skills can be an issue.


The University of Michigan puts more "Institutional" funds (not externally funded) into R&D spending than any other university in the U.S. It is about $540M per year. A significant percentage of that money is going to come from undergraduate tuition paid by the 30,000 undergraduates. I don't think spending say $40K+ of your money to fund some professors research over 4 years is a very good deal. https://ncsesdata.nsf.gov/profiles/site?method=report&fice=2325&id=h2

You may say "perhaps that money comes from endowment", etc., but it would take every cent of Michigan's endowment to come up with that amount (and not fund athletics, law and medical professorships, etc.) It is a rip off in plain sight if you do the math.
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2019 13:39     Subject: Washington Business Journal - 2019 top public colleges
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Congrats to UMD -- they've done an excellent job improving that school over the last few years.

And of course I agree with Michigan being #1. It's an outstanding school.


Michigan overall is much, much more focused on graduate students than undergraduates.


And you know this how? DH went there and had an excellent experience. He developed relationships with professors that he keeps up to this day (and he's 33 years old). He also worked there and so he saw it from the administration side.



Did he develop any mold related illness?
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2019 13:35     Subject: Washington Business Journal - 2019 top public colleges
First off, I love the University of Michigan. Compared to Berkeley and UCLA? It's splitting hairs.
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2019 13:31     Subject: Washington Business Journal - 2019 top public colleges
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Congrats to UMD -- they've done an excellent job improving that school over the last few years.

And of course I agree with Michigan being #1. It's an outstanding school.


Michigan overall is much, much more focused on graduate students than undergraduates.


And you know this how? DH went there and had an excellent experience. He developed relationships with professors that he keeps up to this day (and he's 33 years old). He also worked there and so he saw it from the administration side.



It has a heavy dependence on graduate teaching assistants. In sciences and engineering, communication skills can be an issue.
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2019 15:38     Subject: Washington Business Journal - 2019 top public colleges
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Helpful to us. DD is looking at several of the public universities. We live in VA and looking at the rankings, the VA schools are better ranked than the out of state ones she is considering.



FYI, USN&WR Best Public Universities also has UVA at no. 3 but after UCLA and Berkeley. The three have been in the top three slots for the last 27 years. https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/top-public.


Other VA schools on that USN&WR ranking public schools ranking: W&M is ranked #10, George Mason, 67.

I'm not sure why VT, VCU, JMU aren't ranked on that list--maybe something to do with their methods or how they are classified?
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2019 15:08     Subject: Washington Business Journal - 2019 top public colleges
Anonymous wrote:Helpful to us. DD is looking at several of the public universities. We live in VA and looking at the rankings, the VA schools are better ranked than the out of state ones she is considering.



FYI, USN&WR Best Public Universities also has UVA at no. 3 but after UCLA and Berkeley. The three have been in the top three slots for the last 27 years. https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/top-public.
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2019 14:58     Subject: Washington Business Journal - 2019 top public colleges
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The UMD booster didn't bother to paste in the whole list. If you click the link to the actual ranking, the top schools are:

TOP 250 (national ranks 1-250)

• 1. University of Michigan (Michigan)

• 2. University of North Carolina (North Carolina)

• 3. University of Virginia (Virginia)

• 4. University of California-Berkeley (California)

• 5. University of California-Los Angeles (California)

• 6. University of Washington (Washington)

• 7. University of Texas (Texas)

• 8. College of William and Mary (Virginia)

• 9. University of Illinois (Illinois)

• 10. University of Florida (Florida)

• 11. Georgia Institute of Technology (Georgia)

• 12. University of Wisconsin (Wisconsin)

• 13. University of Maryland (Maryland)

• 14. University of California-San Diego (California)

• 15. University of Connecticut (Connecticut)

• 16. Binghamton University (New York)

• 17. University of Minnesota (Minnesota)

• 18. University of California-Irvine (California)

• 19. Ohio State University (Ohio)

• 20. University of Delaware (Delaware)

https://www.bizjournals.com/buffalo/news/2019/04/01/collegerank.html


All VA schools were mentioned in OP’s original post, along with a link to the list.

- not OP



OP here. Yep, listed all the schools and provided a link that also included the following MD and VA schools in the top 100:

Virginia Tech (No. 32)
Virginia Military Institute (No. 38)
George Mason University (No. 55)
James Madison University (No. 60)
University of Maryland Baltimore County (No. 59)
St. Mary's College of Maryland (No. 68)
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2019 14:44     Subject: Washington Business Journal - 2019 top public colleges
Anonymous wrote:The UMD booster didn't bother to paste in the whole list. If you click the link to the actual ranking, the top schools are:

TOP 250 (national ranks 1-250)

• 1. University of Michigan (Michigan)

• 2. University of North Carolina (North Carolina)

• 3. University of Virginia (Virginia)

• 4. University of California-Berkeley (California)

• 5. University of California-Los Angeles (California)

• 6. University of Washington (Washington)

• 7. University of Texas (Texas)

• 8. College of William and Mary (Virginia)

• 9. University of Illinois (Illinois)

• 10. University of Florida (Florida)

• 11. Georgia Institute of Technology (Georgia)

• 12. University of Wisconsin (Wisconsin)

• 13. University of Maryland (Maryland)

• 14. University of California-San Diego (California)

• 15. University of Connecticut (Connecticut)

• 16. Binghamton University (New York)

• 17. University of Minnesota (Minnesota)

• 18. University of California-Irvine (California)

• 19. Ohio State University (Ohio)

• 20. University of Delaware (Delaware)

https://www.bizjournals.com/buffalo/news/2019/04/01/collegerank.html


All VA schools were mentioned in OP’s original post, along with a link to the list.

- not OP

Anonymous
Post 04/04/2019 14:11     Subject: Washington Business Journal - 2019 top public colleges
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Congrats to UMD -- they've done an excellent job improving that school over the last few years.

And of course I agree with Michigan being #1. It's an outstanding school.


Michigan overall is much, much more focused on graduate students than undergraduates.


And you know this how? DH went there and had an excellent experience. He developed relationships with professors that he keeps up to this day (and he's 33 years old). He also worked there and so he saw it from the administration side.

Anonymous
Post 04/04/2019 14:11     Subject: Washington Business Journal - 2019 top public colleges
The UMD booster didn't bother to paste in the whole list. If you click the link to the actual ranking, the top schools are:

TOP 250 (national ranks 1-250)

• 1. University of Michigan (Michigan)

• 2. University of North Carolina (North Carolina)

• 3. University of Virginia (Virginia)

• 4. University of California-Berkeley (California)

• 5. University of California-Los Angeles (California)

• 6. University of Washington (Washington)

• 7. University of Texas (Texas)

• 8. College of William and Mary (Virginia)

• 9. University of Illinois (Illinois)

• 10. University of Florida (Florida)

• 11. Georgia Institute of Technology (Georgia)

• 12. University of Wisconsin (Wisconsin)

• 13. University of Maryland (Maryland)

• 14. University of California-San Diego (California)

• 15. University of Connecticut (Connecticut)

• 16. Binghamton University (New York)

• 17. University of Minnesota (Minnesota)

• 18. University of California-Irvine (California)

• 19. Ohio State University (Ohio)

• 20. University of Delaware (Delaware)

https://www.bizjournals.com/buffalo/news/2019/04/01/collegerank.html