Anonymous wrote: I don't understand t he secrecy. I told the recruiter what I expected to make when I left a law firm and went in house. Why would I keep it secret and be disappointed in the offer? They saw what it would take to get me and we negotiated salary, signing bonus, and a series of retention bonuses.
Anonymous wrote:I work for a Fortune 50 company and we don't even ask candidates what they currently make. Nobody wants to tell, most lie anyway, and its just pointless. We ask "so what are your expectations of salary/total comp" from this position. That's all.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
This is annoying too. One time I negotiated and said I would accept $xyz, but it could be a total package of salary and stock options and bonus — I don’t mind income being somewhat contingent on my performance , I just don’t want it contingent upon an unknown manager going to bat for me every year.
But then when they made offer, it was $xyz but included value of health insurance, 401k and other overhead rather than actual comp.
Now I stick with salary so that it is abundantly clear.
Did you accept that offer?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Last time I was asked that, for a job that I wasn't dying for, I told them I thought the question was wrong and contributed to the gender pay gap.
Not everyone has that luxury, of course, but if more of us called out employers on the question when we can, I think it would be good for society.
I ended up getting an offer at 95th percentile of the range.
I'd try not to give a number, OP. Ask them the range, and then tell them whether it fits what you're looking for.
Yup. Some states are making it illegal for potential employers to ask.
What states are those? I know a few have passed laws about asking about salary history, but haven’t seen anything banning the asking of a candidates salary requirements/expectations.
I know CA passed this law. My company (based in VA) opted to make it their standard practice in all states to stop asking for current salaries.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Last time I was asked that, for a job that I wasn't dying for, I told them I thought the question was wrong and contributed to the gender pay gap.
Not everyone has that luxury, of course, but if more of us called out employers on the question when we can, I think it would be good for society.
I ended up getting an offer at 95th percentile of the range.
I'd try not to give a number, OP. Ask them the range, and then tell them whether it fits what you're looking for.
Yup. Some states are making it illegal for potential employers to ask.
What states are those? I know a few have passed laws about asking about salary history, but haven’t seen anything banning the asking of a candidates salary requirements/expectations.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Last time I was asked that, for a job that I wasn't dying for, I told them I thought the question was wrong and contributed to the gender pay gap.
Not everyone has that luxury, of course, but if more of us called out employers on the question when we can, I think it would be good for society.
I ended up getting an offer at 95th percentile of the range.
I'd try not to give a number, OP. Ask them the range, and then tell them whether it fits what you're looking for.
Yup. Some states are making it illegal for potential employers to ask.
This! I do a lot of hiring and I always tell candidates the range, and confirm it meets their expectations. It’s so annoying that employers don’t do this more often.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Last time I was asked that, for a job that I wasn't dying for, I told them I thought the question was wrong and contributed to the gender pay gap.
Not everyone has that luxury, of course, but if more of us called out employers on the question when we can, I think it would be good for society.
I ended up getting an offer at 95th percentile of the range.
I'd try not to give a number, OP. Ask them the range, and then tell them whether it fits what you're looking for.
Yup. Some states are making it illegal for potential employers to ask.
Anonymous wrote:
This is annoying too. One time I negotiated and said I would accept $xyz, but it could be a total package of salary and stock options and bonus — I don’t mind income being somewhat contingent on my performance , I just don’t want it contingent upon an unknown manager going to bat for me every year.
But then when they made offer, it was $xyz but included value of health insurance, 401k and other overhead rather than actual comp.
Now I stick with salary so that it is abundantly clear.
Anonymous wrote:
+1. I tell recruiters my current salary and that I'm ready for the next step in my career and looking for a 20% increase.
Don't short sell yourself