Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If that was the only tested blast you transferred I don't think you should necessarily "give up" although I think it's reasonable to consider your limits and decide to stop (if you can). The process is horrible esp after several failed cycles. It's more likely that a normal will take, but it's far from a guarantee. If you want to continue, consider the transfer protocol and consider an ERA. CCRM has a protocol that involves both PIO and suppositories and delestrogen that has really good results. SG is doing a study on ERA, so it's hard to say how often that's helpful, but for some it's essential. I do think the immune issues are real, but when I looked into them it really didn't seem applicable to me, so I don't know too much about them.

If you get good blasts, that's definitely good. I never had enough to test (for the first few I didn't even get any blasts) and none of the transfers using my eggs got beyond a chemical. I did 8 rounds (retrievals) and then DE. I always thought DE was a fine option (it did take me a lot of time to work through the details), but finding a way past the point of "failure" to be able to move on to DE was extremely difficult. I hope you find a way to success.

How long does CCRM keep patients on suppositories + PIO in case of a successful FET?

The progesterone dose is adjusted after a positive and then it continues to at least 10 weeks.

My thoughts are with you OP. Please take a break, give your body and mind a break. Life is beautiful with or without kids but I know how it feels to want a child so desperately you will try anything. Just rest for now and regroup when you are ready to either move onto another cycle or maybe explore other options (adoption, DE, Dr. Braverman). Or just be at peace with not being a mom - I know that is easier said than done.
If you have done ERA, PGS, etc then at least you know you tried everything. It's always worth considering switching REs after you take a break too.

Anonymous wrote:It was a ccs tested 5AA blast, did 2 endometrial scratches before the transfer, did 3 months of acupuncture, seeing a counselor ( feels like its not helping)... doctor is very meticulous...its been six months since the retrieval...we did everything we can before the transfer.... but it still failed...

I used to believe in god...now dont know what to think of it...used to think that i should not give up.... but after 5 wondering if i continue will i get cancer injecting myself with all these hormones... my mind is not ready for DE......Gutted the word for how i feel now... everything is out of pocket with zero coverage...feeling depressed.. wondering what to do next.... but just planning to step away from all this so i can get a break from all these heart breaks... may be everyone is not meant to be a mom..

I get what you're saying OP. My faith in God was shaken during years of infertility struggles and some subsequent (unrelated) really difficult times and completely unanswered prayers. I still have no idea what to think. I prayed (and I pray) for peace and none comes. I feel desperately alone.

I'm suggesting immune testing. Read through Dr Braverman's checklist and see if any of these fit you:

http://preventmiscarriage.com/when-should-a-patient-consult-with-us-.html

Anonymous wrote:If that was the only tested blast you transferred I don't think you should necessarily "give up" although I think it's reasonable to consider your limits and decide to stop (if you can). The process is horrible esp after several failed cycles. It's more likely that a normal will take, but it's far from a guarantee. If you want to continue, consider the transfer protocol and consider an ERA. CCRM has a protocol that involves both PIO and suppositories and delestrogen that has really good results. SG is doing a study on ERA, so it's hard to say how often that's helpful, but for some it's essential. I do think the immune issues are real, but when I looked into them it really didn't seem applicable to me, so I don't know too much about them.

If you get good blasts, that's definitely good. I never had enough to test (for the first few I didn't even get any blasts) and none of the transfers using my eggs got beyond a chemical. I did 8 rounds (retrievals) and then DE. I always thought DE was a fine option (it did take me a lot of time to work through the details), but finding a way past the point of "failure" to be able to move on to DE was extremely difficult. I hope you find a way to success.

How long does CCRM keep patients on suppositories + PIO in case of a successful FET?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m so sorry. I’ve had 3 retrievals which only got me 2 transfers (both FET) and they both failed.

You’ve gotten good advice here and think people were unnecessarily harsh to the poster who said God has a plan. But you know, I think about this too. God sure isn’t helping my fertility. But I pray for the strength to go on.

Thinking of you, OP.

DP
Yeah. It's so hard for some to believe that some of us got through this or are getting through this with God. Their only response is visceral hatred, rage, and insults. It really reveals who they are deep down.

FFS. People deal with things in their own way. Stop being so judgy.

NP here it is OK to take a break and re-think what you want. I have been trying for 6 years to have a second child and it has been so hard so I understand. My DS keeps asking for a sibling it is very very hard.

Some times I think of giving up and I will this is our last year. I can't put myself through so much. We are considering DE even though it was a hard pill to swallow. Also do your embryos implant or no? Also we went to dr. Bravemann and he has been great.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m so sorry. I’ve had 3 retrievals which only got me 2 transfers (both FET) and they both failed.

You’ve gotten good advice here and think people were unnecessarily harsh to the poster who said God has a plan. But you know, I think about this too. God sure isn’t helping my fertility. But I pray for the strength to go on.

Thinking of you, OP.

DP
Yeah. It's so hard for some to believe that some of us got through this or are getting through this with God. Their only response is visceral hatred, rage, and insults. It really reveals who they are deep down.

Not a bad person who shoves their beliefs on others?

Anonymous wrote:I’m so sorry. I’ve had 3 retrievals which only got me 2 transfers (both FET) and they both failed.

You’ve gotten good advice here and think people were unnecessarily harsh to the poster who said God has a plan. But you know, I think about this too. God sure isn’t helping my fertility. But I pray for the strength to go on.

Thinking of you, OP.

DP
Yeah. It's so hard for some to believe that some of us got through this or are getting through this with God. Their only response is visceral hatred, rage, and insults. It really reveals who they are deep down.

I’m so sorry. I’ve had 3 retrievals which only got me 2 transfers (both FET) and they both failed.

You’ve gotten good advice here and think people were unnecessarily harsh to the poster who said God has a plan. But you know, I think about this too. God sure isn’t helping my fertility. But I pray for the strength to go on.

Thinking of you, OP.

If that was the only tested blast you transferred I don't think you should necessarily "give up" although I think it's reasonable to consider your limits and decide to stop (if you can). The process is horrible esp after several failed cycles. It's more likely that a normal will take, but it's far from a guarantee. If you want to continue, consider the transfer protocol and consider an ERA. CCRM has a protocol that involves both PIO and suppositories and delestrogen that has really good results. SG is doing a study on ERA, so it's hard to say how often that's helpful, but for some it's essential. I do think the immune issues are real, but when I looked into them it really didn't seem applicable to me, so I don't know too much about them.

If you get good blasts, that's definitely good. I never had enough to test (for the first few I didn't even get any blasts) and none of the transfers using my eggs got beyond a chemical. I did 8 rounds (retrievals) and then DE. I always thought DE was a fine option (it did take me a lot of time to work through the details), but finding a way past the point of "failure" to be able to move on to DE was extremely difficult. I hope you find a way to success.

So sorry, OP.

It is so so tough. Definitely sounds like you need a break from the heartache and stress.

If down the line at some point you do want to continue with IVF I’d try another RE/clinic.

It was a ccs tested 5AA blast, did 2 endometrial scratches before the transfer, did 3 months of acupuncture, seeing a counselor ( feels like its not helping)... doctor is very meticulous...its been six months since the retrieval...we did everything we can before the transfer.... but it still failed...

I used to believe in god...now dont know what to think of it...used to think that i should not give up.... but after 5 wondering if i continue will i get cancer injecting myself with all these hormones... my mind is not ready for DE......Gutted the word for how i feel now... everything is out of pocket with zero coverage...feeling depressed.. wondering what to do next.... but just planning to step away from all this so i can get a break from all these heart breaks... may be everyone is not meant to be a mom..

I am so very sorry. And also sorry that you had to see some of the responses on this thread. Stopping treatment if that is what you end up doing doesn't mean that you want a child any less than someone who does 9 IVFs. It also isn't quitting. This stuff is expensive, exhausting, and the failures are devastating. Maybe even just some time away from thinking about if you want to think about any next steps would be helpful.

I’m so sorry.