Anonymous wrote:For FCV's 05 DA team, only 3 of the 50 goals they've scored this year have come from former Loudoun Red players who were Region Champions at U-12. So That poster's point might not be as clueless as you think.

So the point is that FCV "development" ruined these U-12 Champions. Great thanks for the heads up.

For FCV's 05 DA team, only 3 of the 50 goals they've scored this year have come from former Loudoun Red players who were Region Champions at U-12. So That poster's point might not be as clueless as you think.

Not really. But we just love teasing the FCV parents who keep talking a big game and waiting for us to show up. LOL.

You space cadets need to form a support group. Way too invested.

FCV parents please point out how club credibility, management and coaches are better than Loudoun. Please let us know how the facilities and club financial strength compare too. Maybe we will come to ID Session 7 or 8.

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure exactly what the point of this thread is, but since it seems to be focusing on FCV and Loudoun, here’s a reminder. A few years ago the Loudoun 05 girls team in 6th grade were the best team in the eastern region. Two years later and they are essentially an irrelevant ECNL team residing at the bottom of their league. Their best players left to play DA at FCV. Maybe history will repeat itself, maybe not. But just because a team is good at that age does not mean it will sustain. Look at the coaches and the club management and their philosophy and credibility. Then make a choice. Past performance is not an indicator of future success, especially in the ever changing world of travel soccer.

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LOL. Clueless post. Those 05 girls left before Loudoun entered ECNL. Times have changed.

Anonymous wrote:Not sure exactly what the point of this thread is, but since it seems to be focusing on FCV and Loudoun, here’s a reminder. A few years ago the Loudoun 05 girls team in 6th grade were the best team in the eastern region. Two years later and they are essentially an irrelevant ECNL team residing at the bottom of their league. Their best players left to play DA at FCV. Maybe history will repeat itself, maybe not. But just because a team is good at that age does not mean it will sustain. Look at the coaches and the club management and their philosophy and credibility. Then make a choice. Past performance is not an indicator of future success, especially in the ever changing world of travel soccer.

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Not sure exactly what the point of this thread is, but since it seems to be focusing on FCV and Loudoun, here’s a reminder. A few years ago the Loudoun 05 girls team in 6th grade were the best team in the eastern region. Two years later and they are essentially an irrelevant ECNL team residing at the bottom of their league. Their best players left to play DA at FCV. Maybe history will repeat itself, maybe not. But just because a team is good at that age does not mean it will sustain. Look at the coaches and the club management and their philosophy and credibility. Then make a choice. Past performance is not an indicator of future success, especially in the ever changing world of travel soccer.

And just to be clear, other than the coaching situation, the above scenarios are true at just about every club to degrees. If there is a higher component like ECNL/DA it is more extreme but the general anxiety and each families goals and history are the factors that tend to play more heavily into the decisions at this age.

Parents and players who wish to play in college begin to seriously examine their kids fit and role on the team more than they tend to think about the "team". They will be looking more for what the team can do for their their kid than the other way around. Add the amount of money to the equation and all the other options in the area and parents are no longer just happy to be on Red, Green, Elite or whatever A team designation your club uses.

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly. Even if Loudoun did not have any outside girls join the team, Loudoun Black is better than FCV's top team, and those Loudoun "b team" girls would be filling out the roster of next years Loudoun ECNL team.

If FCV is not getting outside players, then they are going to get smoked next year. Hell, even WSVA may trounce FCV 07's next year.

And with parents knowing that, you think that those kids on Black are gonna stick around?

U13 is moving year. It is when many parents and kids cut bait on their club and look elsewhere. So one more time, whether you are Loudoun, McLean, FCV, BRYC, rising U13 is not the year to count your chickens before they've hatched. All it takes is some uneven or odd playing time at a tourney like Jeff Cup to be a final straw for a couple of parents. But by all means go and get that tourney win this weekend.

I see. After Jeff Cup the Black players will start attending at ID Session #7. Or maybe over Spring Break or when school gets out.

No, folks will stick around as long as they believe roster spots are still available but once offers start to go out is when people now on the outside looking in start to look elsewhere. Certainly when there are zero outside kids showing up to your ID sessions keeps the carrot dangling longer but it will go away in time.

Then there is the issue regarding parents beginning to scrutinize their kids role more closely as the ECNL bill and travel expense rises. Parents who believe their kids are ECNL/DA starters tend to pause on committing to that level of commitment and payment if they get a sense that their kids role is not in fact increasing and does not match the hope and expectation they have for their player. Once their pathway door at Loudoun begins to close the doorway out of the club begins to open.

For example parents with kids on Black who have higher aspirations than Loudoun's B team will also begin to look around as well. Once you start getting into the recruitment years reasonable parents stop looking at gotsoccer rankings are start looking at a team that where their kid has the best chance at getting college exposure and that is not gonna happen on the B team or the back end of the ECNL roster getting 20 minutes a game, at least not for 5k a year. And if that movement doesn't happen this year, it most certainly will the following year when they see that, shockingly, their coach of the last 4 years doesn't see their kid any differently.

Then you have to convince back end players on Red and top end players on Black that paying 5k/year is worth riding to NC, SC and elsewhere to sit the bench. If these kids believe they can be starters somewhere else and get same or better college exposure then they start thinking about leaving. Having the same coach that they have had for 4 years already, they don't have the hope that comes with a new set of eyes that might view their player as a bigger part of the team.

So, if you really believe that everyone on Red and Black are happy and content it is because your kid is a top 5 player and that is how you want to believe things to be. But there are Loudoun soccer bags popping up on the fields of ID sessions throughout the region. You can put your head in the sand if you'd like but don't count your chickens yet.

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly. Even if Loudoun did not have any outside girls join the team, Loudoun Black is better than FCV's top team, and those Loudoun "b team" girls would be filling out the roster of next years Loudoun ECNL team.

If FCV is not getting outside players, then they are going to get smoked next year. Hell, even WSVA may trounce FCV 07's next year.

And with parents knowing that, you think that those kids on Black are gonna stick around?

U13 is moving year. It is when many parents and kids cut bait on their club and look elsewhere. So one more time, whether you are Loudoun, McLean, FCV, BRYC, rising U13 is not the year to count your chickens before they've hatched. All it takes is some uneven or odd playing time at a tourney like Jeff Cup to be a final straw for a couple of parents. But by all means go and get that tourney win this weekend.

I see. After Jeff Cup the Black players will start attending at ID Session #7. Or maybe over Spring Break or when school gets out.

Anonymous wrote:Exactly. Even if Loudoun did not have any outside girls join the team, Loudoun Black is better than FCV's top team, and those Loudoun "b team" girls would be filling out the roster of next years Loudoun ECNL team.

If FCV is not getting outside players, then they are going to get smoked next year. Hell, even WSVA may trounce FCV 07's next year.

And with parents knowing that, you think that those kids on Black are gonna stick around?

U13 is moving year. It is when many parents and kids cut bait on their club and look elsewhere. So one more time, whether you are Loudoun, McLean, FCV, BRYC, rising U13 is not the year to count your chickens before they've hatched. All it takes is some uneven or odd playing time at a tourney like Jeff Cup to be a final straw for a couple of parents. But by all means go and get that tourney win this weekend.

What do they put in the water out in the FCV/Loudoun area??? It's either making monster players or monster parents, and it seems nobody wants to join either of your two teams.

Exactly. Even if Loudoun did not have any outside girls join the team, Loudoun Black is better than FCV's top team, and those Loudoun "b team" girls would be filling out the roster of next years Loudoun ECNL team.

If FCV is not getting outside players, then they are going to get smoked next year. Hell, even WSVA may trounce FCV 07's next year.

So the answer is that FCV badly needs outside players and zero or close to zero kids have shown interest in FCV 07 DA.