Yep segregated. Our pool Ft Myer swim team is the only team in Arlington in the Colonial league. NVSL didn’t want us because we are diverse and have always been so. Government employees can get a pool membership there. It’s open to all so North Arlington is allowed in. The membership is $750.00 no waiting list but you have to swim with military and south Arlington folks. Call 703 524 3037. Can also google Payton Hall pool.

You can join next year as non government if you join the swim team. It’s a way to get access to the pool.

Qwerty123 wrote:I've got a Dominion Hills pool membership that I would be willing to sell (PM me).

Good luck with that. You can't sell DH memberships unless you sell your house. Let's see how you get this past the board.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NoVa has more pool options than close-in MoCo where most people would have to join a country club.

Huh? MoCo has tons of public pools, and they're actually pretty nice. It's fun to try different ones as they have different features that keep it interesting for kids.

Agreed. There are a lot of neighborhood pools in Montgomery County. (I am on the board of one of the pools.)

However, I would not agree that "MoCo has tons of public pools." Unfortunately, MoCo has very few public pools relative to the population. The only 7 outdoor public pools in MoCo.

Having grown up in the Midwest, I found it kind of surprising to see how few public outdoor pools there were. In the Midwest (at least where I grew up), there were tons of outdoor public pools. In contrast, here in MoCo, the more common option seems to be a neighborhood pool. For example, the summer swim league in Moco includes over 80 pools, and over 70 of those pools are neighborhood pools.

The pools are allowed to restrict the pool membership to people in the neighborhood. As I understand it, I guess that otherwise these would be considered businesses (which would have to accept everyone), rather than neighborhood amenities.

Most neighborhood pools (of which I am aware) do not allow you to sell the membership or try to buy your way up the wait list. Instead, you must simply wait your turn, when a prior member decides to give up that household's membership.

Many pools that I know of are approximately $1000 per year.

Anonymous wrote:NoVa has more pool options than close-in MoCo where most people would have to join a country club.

Huh? MoCo has tons of public pools, and they're actually pretty nice. It's fun to try different ones as they have different features that keep it interesting for kids.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The history of those pools is absolutely rooted in segregation. Maybe it’s changed, but when I bought a home in south Arlington 10 years ago I looked up getting on the waitlist of Overlee ( i think). I wasn’t allowed to sign up, because my address wasn’t acceptable. I lived near Nauck at the time.
Serisouly.

I don’t think any of the private pools have neighborhoods that can’t join, but some do give waitlist preference to the neighborhoods within close proximity (at least one is near enough to SA that a number of neighborhoods are in the geographic preference area). We live in SA and had preference to Arlington Forest. I think the SE part of Arlington is out of luck because the only private pool in that area is part of the Army/Navy Country Club, which costs significantly more than the other private pool clubs that don’t include golf. There isn’t another private pool or pool/tennis club in that area. You’ll have the new aquatic facility close to you, but it’s indoors and the fees won’t be much that less expensive than the private pools in NA from what I have heard.

NP, but the history of private pools in the South (which VA definitely is), is rooted in Segregation. When public pools were no longer legally allowed to keep black people out, public pools closed and private pools opened - because the private pools could discriminate.

There's a reason there are so few public pools, and its not a nice one.

Yes, the pools associated with NVSL were segregated. The pools associated with the Colonial Swim league were integrated--only one of those is in Arlington.

Arlington does have public county pools, but they are indoors. Which to me, is a much better investment because they can be used year round. The 3 big high schools have pools and there is an aquatics center.

But yes, Virginia's history of public outdoors pools is an ugly one.

There are private options outside of Arlington too, but which one makes sense to you depend on where in the county you live.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The history of those pools is absolutely rooted in segregation. Maybe it’s changed, but when I bought a home in south Arlington 10 years ago I looked up getting on the waitlist of Overlee ( i think). I wasn’t allowed to sign up, because my address wasn’t acceptable. I lived near Nauck at the time.
Serisouly.

I don’t think any of the private pools have neighborhoods that can’t join, but some do give waitlist preference to the neighborhoods within close proximity (at least one is near enough to SA that a number of neighborhoods are in the geographic preference area). We live in SA and had preference to Arlington Forest. I think the SE part of Arlington is out of luck because the only private pool in that area is part of the Army/Navy Country Club, which costs significantly more than the other private pool clubs that don’t include golf. There isn’t another private pool or pool/tennis club in that area. You’ll have the new aquatic facility close to you, but it’s indoors and the fees won’t be much that less expensive than the private pools in NA from what I have heard.

NP, but the history of private pools in the South (which VA definitely is), is rooted in Segregation. When public pools were no longer legally allowed to keep black people out, public pools closed and private pools opened - because the private pools could discriminate.

There's a reason there are so few public pools, and its not a nice one.

NoVa has more pool options than close-in MoCo where most people would have to join a country club.

This is wild to me as a chicagoan whose family pool pass was $210 for a family of 5 this season.

I've got a Dominion Hills pool membership that I would be willing to sell (PM me).

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The history of those pools is absolutely rooted in segregation. Maybe it’s changed, but when I bought a home in south Arlington 10 years ago I looked up getting on the waitlist of Overlee ( i think). I wasn’t allowed to sign up, because my address wasn’t acceptable. I lived near Nauck at the time.
Serisouly.

Overlee is open to all of Arlington (plus Falls Church and McLean), so that wasn’t the one you’re thinking of.

Yeah Overlee is not segregated by neighborhood - it's open to all which is why their waitlist is so long. The only one I do know in Arlington that is, is Donaldson Run. I live in N. Arlington, and I couldn't join there either because they only accept certain neighborhoods that are near their pool.

Ah thanks. I couldn’t remember and wasn’t irritated enough at the time to take much offense.
Over the years being underserved in south Arlington does take a toll. Arlington is great, but some parts are greatER.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The history of those pools is absolutely rooted in segregation. Maybe it’s changed, but when I bought a home in south Arlington 10 years ago I looked up getting on the waitlist of Overlee ( i think). I wasn’t allowed to sign up, because my address wasn’t acceptable. I lived near Nauck at the time.
Serisouly.

Overlee is open to all of Arlington (plus Falls Church and McLean), so that wasn’t the one you’re thinking of.

Yeah Overlee is not segregated by neighborhood - it's open to all which is why their waitlist is so long. The only one I do know in Arlington that is, is Donaldson Run. I live in N. Arlington, and I couldn't join there either because they only accept certain neighborhoods that are near their pool.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The history of those pools is absolutely rooted in segregation. Maybe it’s changed, but when I bought a home in south Arlington 10 years ago I looked up getting on the waitlist of Overlee ( i think). I wasn’t allowed to sign up, because my address wasn’t acceptable. I lived near Nauck at the time.
Serisouly.

I don’t think any of the private pools have neighborhoods that can’t join, but some do give waitlist preference to the neighborhoods within close proximity (at least one is near enough to SA that a number of neighborhoods are in the geographic preference area). We live in SA and had preference to Arlington Forest. I think the SE part of Arlington is out of luck because the only private pool in that area is part of the Army/Navy Country Club, which costs significantly more than the other private pool clubs that don’t include golf. There isn’t another private pool or pool/tennis club in that area. You’ll have the new aquatic facility close to you, but it’s indoors and the fees won’t be much that less expensive than the private pools in NA from what I have heard.

Donaldson Run is restricted by Arlington neighborhood- someone from Nauck for example could not join the waiting list.

Anonymous wrote:The history of those pools is absolutely rooted in segregation. Maybe it’s changed, but when I bought a home in south Arlington 10 years ago I looked up getting on the waitlist of Overlee ( i think). I wasn’t allowed to sign up, because my address wasn’t acceptable. I lived near Nauck at the time.
Serisouly.

I don’t think any of the private pools have neighborhoods that can’t join, but some do give waitlist preference to the neighborhoods within close proximity (at least one is near enough to SA that a number of neighborhoods are in the geographic preference area). We live in SA and had preference to Arlington Forest. I think the SE part of Arlington is out of luck because the only private pool in that area is part of the Army/Navy Country Club, which costs significantly more than the other private pool clubs that don’t include golf. There isn’t another private pool or pool/tennis club in that area. You’ll have the new aquatic facility close to you, but it’s indoors and the fees won’t be much that less expensive than the private pools in NA from what I have heard.

Anonymous wrote:The history of those pools is absolutely rooted in segregation. Maybe it’s changed, but when I bought a home in south Arlington 10 years ago I looked up getting on the waitlist of Overlee ( i think). I wasn’t allowed to sign up, because my address wasn’t acceptable. I lived near Nauck at the time.
Serisouly.

Overlee is open to all of Arlington (plus Falls Church and McLean), so that wasn’t the one you’re thinking of.