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Anonymous wrote:This thread scares me. DD is a junior and I’m afraid that she won’t even get into her safety school. I’ve been hearing about a lot of well qualified kids being rejected from UMD CP.

Well-qualified kids get rejected all the time do she needs to do her research and know it is hard.

Also keep in mind that a safety school is one with at least a 50% admit rate that you can afford and your kid would be happy attending. If your child applies to 2-3 that fit that definition they won’t be shut out. It is far harder to find these than fixating on a dream school.

That is not what a safety school is. Admits rates do not matter. VT has way over a 50% admit rate and an average kid would get denied all day long.

It is how kids in your school tend to do in that school. If you are way above Naviance green grid. It is being about the 75% average of their GPA and test scores. And lately some luck.

Not anymore -- https://vtnews.vt.edu/articles/2019/03/unirel-2019-admissions-pool.html

For the class of 2023 the admit rate was below 25%.

"This year marks the second consecutive year, and only the second time in history, that more than 30,000 students applied to Virginia Tech.

The university intends to enroll 6,600 incoming first-year students, a 400-seat increase from last year’s class. Even with this increase, students who were offered spots have a strong academic profile, with an average GPA of 4.10 and average SAT score of 1320. ..."

If they intend to enroll 6600 students, they will admit about 20,000 students since VT typically has a 30-35% yield. So their acceptance is around 66% give or take. It was 68% last year. 70% the year before that.

Pretty close. I think I saw they admitted 19k and change which puts the admit rate in the low 60's. That's a little deceiving as there is a wide disparity in admission rates between various programs. COE, Architecture and, to a certain extent, business tend to have much lower admit rates.

Just not true. Admit rates by College at VT:

Agriculture & Life Sciences 72%
Architecture & Urban Sciences 65%
Business 59%
Engineering 68%
Science 70%
Liberal Arts & Human Science 57%
Natural Resources & Environment 71%

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Anonymous wrote:This thread scares me. DD is a junior and I’m afraid that she won’t even get into her safety school. I’ve been hearing about a lot of well qualified kids being rejected from UMD CP.

Well-qualified kids get rejected all the time do she needs to do her research and know it is hard.

Also keep in mind that a safety school is one with at least a 50% admit rate that you can afford and your kid would be happy attending. If your child applies to 2-3 that fit that definition they won’t be shut out. It is far harder to find these than fixating on a dream school.

That is not what a safety school is. Admits rates do not matter. VT has way over a 50% admit rate and an average kid would get denied all day long.

It is how kids in your school tend to do in that school. If you are way above Naviance green grid. It is being about the 75% average of their GPA and test scores. And lately some luck.

Not anymore -- https://vtnews.vt.edu/articles/2019/03/unirel-2019-admissions-pool.html

For the class of 2023 the admit rate was below 25%.

"This year marks the second consecutive year, and only the second time in history, that more than 30,000 students applied to Virginia Tech.

The university intends to enroll 6,600 incoming first-year students, a 400-seat increase from last year’s class. Even with this increase, students who were offered spots have a strong academic profile, with an average GPA of 4.10 and average SAT score of 1320. ..."

If they intend to enroll 6600 students, they will admit about 20,000 students since VT typically has a 30-35% yield. So their acceptance is around 66% give or take. It was 68% last year. 70% the year before that.

Pretty close. I think I saw they admitted 19k and change which puts the admit rate in the low 60's. That's a little deceiving as there is a wide disparity in admission rates between various programs. COE, Architecture and, to a certain extent, business tend to have much lower admit rates.

Admitted to VT early action but deferred by JMU early action.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread scares me. DD is a junior and I’m afraid that she won’t even get into her safety school. I’ve been hearing about a lot of well qualified kids being rejected from UMD CP.

Well-qualified kids get rejected all the time do she needs to do her research and know it is hard.

Also keep in mind that a safety school is one with at least a 50% admit rate that you can afford and your kid would be happy attending. If your child applies to 2-3 that fit that definition they won’t be shut out. It is far harder to find these than fixating on a dream school.

That is not what a safety school is. Admits rates do not matter. VT has way over a 50% admit rate and an average kid would get denied all day long.

It is how kids in your school tend to do in that school. If you are way above Naviance green grid. It is being about the 75% average of their GPA and test scores. And lately some luck.

Not anymore -- https://vtnews.vt.edu/articles/2019/03/unirel-2019-admissions-pool.html

For the class of 2023 the admit rate was below 25%.

"This year marks the second consecutive year, and only the second time in history, that more than 30,000 students applied to Virginia Tech.

The university intends to enroll 6,600 incoming first-year students, a 400-seat increase from last year’s class. Even with this increase, students who were offered spots have a strong academic profile, with an average GPA of 4.10 and average SAT score of 1320. ..."

could it be that UVA is just too expensive, even in-state?

I think the PPs above are talking about VT, not UVA, unless I'm missing your point.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread scares me. DD is a junior and I’m afraid that she won’t even get into her safety school. I’ve been hearing about a lot of well qualified kids being rejected from UMD CP.

Well-qualified kids get rejected all the time do she needs to do her research and know it is hard.

Also keep in mind that a safety school is one with at least a 50% admit rate that you can afford and your kid would be happy attending. If your child applies to 2-3 that fit that definition they won’t be shut out. It is far harder to find these than fixating on a dream school.

That is not what a safety school is. Admits rates do not matter. VT has way over a 50% admit rate and an average kid would get denied all day long.

It is how kids in your school tend to do in that school. If you are way above Naviance green grid. It is being about the 75% average of their GPA and test scores. And lately some luck.

Not anymore -- https://vtnews.vt.edu/articles/2019/03/unirel-2019-admissions-pool.html

For the class of 2023 the admit rate was below 25%.

"This year marks the second consecutive year, and only the second time in history, that more than 30,000 students applied to Virginia Tech.

The university intends to enroll 6,600 incoming first-year students, a 400-seat increase from last year’s class. Even with this increase, students who were offered spots have a strong academic profile, with an average GPA of 4.10 and average SAT score of 1320. ..."

If they intend to enroll 6600 students, they will admit about 20,000 students since VT typically has a 30-35% yield. So their acceptance is around 66% give or take. It was 68% last year. 70% the year before that.

Looking at DCs and a half dozen or so friends (mainly white or Asian and male) in the VA public U's (UVA, W&M, JMU, VT, GMU, VCU), Naviance seems to be a dead-on accurate predictor for who has gotten in and who is deferred for early action/decision. Haven't gotten all the final RD yet. But we haven't noticed needing to be far above where the green checks are, just in the mainly green check areas.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread scares me. DD is a junior and I’m afraid that she won’t even get into her safety school. I’ve been hearing about a lot of well qualified kids being rejected from UMD CP.

Well-qualified kids get rejected all the time do she needs to do her research and know it is hard.

Also keep in mind that a safety school is one with at least a 50% admit rate that you can afford and your kid would be happy attending. If your child applies to 2-3 that fit that definition they won’t be shut out. It is far harder to find these than fixating on a dream school.

That is not what a safety school is. Admits rates do not matter. VT has way over a 50% admit rate and an average kid would get denied all day long.

It is how kids in your school tend to do in that school. If you are way above Naviance green grid. It is being about the 75% average of their GPA and test scores. And lately some luck.

Not anymore -- https://vtnews.vt.edu/articles/2019/03/unirel-2019-admissions-pool.html

For the class of 2023 the admit rate was below 25%.

"This year marks the second consecutive year, and only the second time in history, that more than 30,000 students applied to Virginia Tech.

The university intends to enroll 6,600 incoming first-year students, a 400-seat increase from last year’s class. Even with this increase, students who were offered spots have a strong academic profile, with an average GPA of 4.10 and average SAT score of 1320. ..."

could it be that UVA is just too expensive, even in-state?

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Anonymous wrote:This thread scares me. DD is a junior and I’m afraid that she won’t even get into her safety school. I’ve been hearing about a lot of well qualified kids being rejected from UMD CP.

Well-qualified kids get rejected all the time do she needs to do her research and know it is hard.

Also keep in mind that a safety school is one with at least a 50% admit rate that you can afford and your kid would be happy attending. If your child applies to 2-3 that fit that definition they won’t be shut out. It is far harder to find these than fixating on a dream school.

That is not what a safety school is. Admits rates do not matter. VT has way over a 50% admit rate and an average kid would get denied all day long.

It is how kids in your school tend to do in that school. If you are way above Naviance green grid. It is being about the 75% average of their GPA and test scores. And lately some luck.

Not anymore -- https://vtnews.vt.edu/articles/2019/03/unirel-2019-admissions-pool.html

For the class of 2023 the admit rate was below 25%.

"This year marks the second consecutive year, and only the second time in history, that more than 30,000 students applied to Virginia Tech.

The university intends to enroll 6,600 incoming first-year students, a 400-seat increase from last year’s class. Even with this increase, students who were offered spots have a strong academic profile, with an average GPA of 4.10 and average SAT score of 1320. ..."

That's not how this works.

Their target is 6,600. To get there, they admit way more students than that number. It is NOT 25% acceptance rate.

Anonymous wrote:Naviance doesn't always count either. A URM or an athlete is going to get in with lower grades and change that average to be lower than it should. So if you are white, you need to be in top right hand corner way ahead of the green lines, to even be considered a target. That is what I don't think many people understand. Plus it goes back a few years and we all see how harder it is each year.

And reaches are any school with high GPA/test scores and low acceptance rates. Even kids with 4.5 and 36 ACT. Still a reach.

Whites have it easier. Asians are really screwed because their SATs also have to be 100 points better than URMs and also higher than Whites.

Anonymous wrote:Following my DD and her friends has been a rollercoaster this year. My oldest did not seem to have this much craziness.

My DD was just accepted RD for Georgia Tech today. OOS chances for RD was 10% - a complete long shot. Her friend who she thought may be the only one her school to get GT was denied, not even WL. She feels terrible. But then again, in January, my DD was rejected

Did your DD apply to something other than CS or Engineering and did her friend apply for CS or Engineering? That can make a difference too.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread scares me. DD is a junior and I’m afraid that she won’t even get into her safety school. I’ve been hearing about a lot of well qualified kids being rejected from UMD CP.

Well-qualified kids get rejected all the time do she needs to do her research and know it is hard.

Also keep in mind that a safety school is one with at least a 50% admit rate that you can afford and your kid would be happy attending. If your child applies to 2-3 that fit that definition they won’t be shut out. It is far harder to find these than fixating on a dream school.

That is not what a safety school is. Admits rates do not matter. VT has way over a 50% admit rate and an average kid would get denied all day long.

It is how kids in your school tend to do in that school. If you are way above Naviance green grid. It is being about the 75% average of their GPA and test scores. And lately some luck.

Not anymore -- https://vtnews.vt.edu/articles/2019/03/unirel-2019-admissions-pool.html

For the class of 2023 the admit rate was below 25%.

"This year marks the second consecutive year, and only the second time in history, that more than 30,000 students applied to Virginia Tech.

The university intends to enroll 6,600 incoming first-year students, a 400-seat increase from last year’s class. Even with this increase, students who were offered spots have a strong academic profile, with an average GPA of 4.10 and average SAT score of 1320. ..."

Naviance doesn't always count either. A URM or an athlete is going to get in with lower grades and change that average to be lower than it should. So if you are white, you need to be in top right hand corner way ahead of the green lines, to even be considered a target. That is what I don't think many people understand. Plus it goes back a few years and we all see how harder it is each year.

And reaches are any school with high GPA/test scores and low acceptance rates. Even kids with 4.5 and 36 ACT. Still a reach.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread scares me. DD is a junior and I’m afraid that she won’t even get into her safety school. I’ve been hearing about a lot of well qualified kids being rejected from UMD CP.

Well-qualified kids get rejected all the time do she needs to do her research and know it is hard.

Also keep in mind that a safety school is one with at least a 50% admit rate that you can afford and your kid would be happy attending. If your child applies to 2-3 that fit that definition they won’t be shut out. It is far harder to find these than fixating on a dream school.

That is not what a safety school is. Admits rates do not matter. VT has way over a 50% admit rate and an average kid would get denied all day long.
It is how kids in your school tend to do in that school. If you are way above Naviance green grid. It is being about the 75% average of their GPA and test scores. And lately some luck.

Being above isn’t necessarily good enough if the school you are shooting for highly selective, and if you are out of state applying to one of the better ranked state flagships (UC, Michigan), it definitely isn’t enough.

That’s the point. You need more, and how “more” is defined in any given year is impossible to determine in advance (except recruited athletes).

I still go by the 50% rule. VT, UVA, WM are reaches for most Virginia students and if you are above 75%, VCU and CNU are your safeties

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Anonymous wrote:Admitted to Tulane but denied at UMD.

Congrats on Tulane - that’s not an easy admit.

hmmm... only need about a 3.5 gpa and 28 ACT. Seems pretty easy to me.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread scares me. DD is a junior and I’m afraid that she won’t even get into her safety school. I’ve been hearing about a lot of well qualified kids being rejected from UMD CP.

Well-qualified kids get rejected all the time do she needs to do her research and know it is hard.

Also keep in mind that a safety school is one with at least a 50% admit rate that you can afford and your kid would be happy attending. If your child applies to 2-3 that fit that definition they won’t be shut out. It is far harder to find these than fixating on a dream school.

That is not what a safety school is. Admits rates do not matter. VT has way over a 50% admit rate and an average kid would get denied all day long.

It is how kids in your school tend to do in that school. If you are way above Naviance green grid. It is being about the 75% average of their GPA and test scores. And lately some luck.